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02-14-2013, 12:18 PM
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Don't make any moves. Give these kids some NHL experience, work on their game. If we get a high pick out of it, good, if not, it means the kids are alright. With Spezz and Karlsson back in next year, we'll be that much better. I would move Bishop for sure for another quality AHL'er at either D or F, get Lehner in some games and watch it unfold. Take the offseason to assess what we need and make the necessary moves. Stock up on picks at the deadline if the opportunity presents itself. We'll be fine in the long run folks, we knew some teams would have injury woes, we just happen to be one of them, but we still have a good team moving forward
We won't trade Bishop for an AHL'er.

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02-14-2013, 12:19 PM
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"/No General Manager wants to help me, I've made calls."
Would've been classy move if Mario now traded his first round pick for Gonch.
Never gonna happen though.

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02-14-2013, 12:19 PM
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I'm glad it wasn't a full laceration, everything I've read indicates that a partial laceration should completely heal. I don't even care about this season anymore, as long as he's back to 100% for next season!

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02-14-2013, 12:21 PM
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I thought one quote was interesting. The "Anderson is a core piece and can be here another 5-8 years". I wonder if he is entertaining the possibility of dealing Lehner. I really hope not unless the return is significant, and even then, I don't know. I think we would regret trading Lehner big time. Lehner and Karlsson will lead us to a Cup imo, no question.
If it's moving Anderson or Lehner the answer is Lehner every time. Anderson is proven and playing better than 95% of the goalies in the league ever have, and he's proving himself to be a consistent elite level goalie.

At the end of the day proven talent >>> potential talent always, especially when the potential is to be as good as the proven talent. I know people are in love with prospects and Swedes but that's just reality. If moving Lehner helps this team then you do it and keep Bishop to back-up. Who knows...Bishop also has a lot of potential and a lot of goalies don't blossom until their late 20s/early 30s.

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02-14-2013, 12:26 PM
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I can't believe there is no discipline for Cooke. How long is he going to get away with these hits?

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02-14-2013, 12:27 PM
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I can't believe there is no discipline for Cooke. How long is he going to get away with these hits?
there are a lot of people (the majority?) who see nothing wrong with it. so.......

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02-14-2013, 12:28 PM
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Good to see people are starting to respond to facts - i.e. laceration not full rupture.

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02-14-2013, 12:32 PM
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- Murray has made several calls to GMs since Spezza went down, but "no one wants to trade a good player for someone not in the league yet."
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I thought one quote was interesting. The "Anderson is a core piece and can be here another 5-8 years". I wonder if he is entertaining the possibility of dealing Lehner. I really hope not unless the return is significant, and even then, I don't know. I think we would regret trading Lehner big time. Lehner and Karlsson will lead us to a Cup imo, no question.
Murray answered that.

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02-14-2013, 12:37 PM
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Listen, I don't want to trade Andy at all. I just want to keep Lehner to. And him being Swedish, I could care less about. We've just always had problems with goalies, and I truly believe Lehner will be something very special. He has that it factor, if that's what you want to call it.

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02-14-2013, 12:43 PM
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Anderson is something special, right now

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I don't think Andy would have a problem with winning a cup in Ottawa (assuming we have a full ******* lineup), letting Lehner take the reigns and then serving as backup. Assume Lehner matures and is finally able to assume the #1 duties in 2 years how awesome would it be to have him as the #1 and Andy as the #2?

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02-14-2013, 01:12 PM
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Ouch. 70% achilles lac. Still, better than a complete transection. 3 mos is an enthusiastic estimate. Full recovery very very likely.

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02-14-2013, 01:14 PM
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Usually with good rehab (which you KNOW he’ll get) full strength is regained at 6mos to a year.

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But regular people can usually get back to their full activity level at 4 mos. hey, who knows - maybe 3 months is possible.

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@timjoyce studies show early rehab in athletes gets great results.

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02-14-2013, 01:16 PM
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I hate the idea of letting Andy go, even for a steep return, when all we have to fall back on is unproven potential. Especially when we have been cursed in the goal crease for pretty much our whole time in the league.

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02-14-2013, 01:16 PM
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Soooo, with the later end date to the season, he should be back for the semis or the SC final. Sounds good.


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video is up on senstv now

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02-14-2013, 01:28 PM
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Soooo, with the later end date to the season, he should be back for the semis or the SC final. Sounds good.

Hey lend me a pair too, I want to see things like you do! Instead of the sick feeling I've had since last night.

But in the long run we should all feel relieved that his achilles wasn't totally severed. At this point it's just great that he can potentially get back to 100% form.

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02-14-2013, 01:33 PM
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This draft has 3 franchise players in it they should tank. Trade Gonchar and Anderson for an impact young player and get one of Drouin, Mackinnon or Jones. In 2 years from now this will look like a blessing in disguise.

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02-14-2013, 01:51 PM
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Call me crazy, but I think that's almost the best-case scenario.

Atleast if the Sens somehow squeak into the playoffs, we don't have to run into a situation where he might force himself to come back too early and injure himself permanently.

At the same, the fact that it's not 100% cut clean is encouraging news, and means he's likely not going to have long-lasting effects from this injury, and he'll probably be healthy by the summer, and have all summer to train and become even more of a beast.

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02-14-2013, 01:54 PM
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This draft has 3 franchise players in it they should tank. Trade Gonchar and Anderson for an impact young player and get one of Drouin, Mackinnon or Jones. In 2 years from now this will look like a blessing in disguise.
Bryan Murray begs to differ.

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Bryan Murray begs to differ.
Well clearly how they fair between now and the trade deadline could potentially influence his decision.

But asset management says trading him right now makes the most sense.

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Murray is just saying that...he knows we can't contend if we don't make any moves. Sounds like no GMs are willing to help us out. I just don't want to fall into mediocrity. Either tank or compete and if you are going to compete making a ****ing move.
Tanking is for loser teams like the Oilers, or teams that have no other choice like the Islanders.

We're better than that.

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02-14-2013, 02:29 PM
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Tanking is for loser teams like the Oilers, or teams that have no other choice like the Islanders.

We're better than that.
I think decisions will be made on the basis of the team's play over the next 15 games or so. If perform below .500, expect the departure of Gonchar at the least.

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Well clearly how they fair between now and the trade deadline could potentially influence his decision.

But asset management says trading him right now makes the most sense.
#1 goalies don't grow on trees, and the team is nothing without one. Lehner, while very promising, isn't a sure thing to be as good or better. so I don't see how our placement in the standings would change whether trading Anderson is a good idea. Goalies traditionally don't bring back a lot, so I really don't see it a great asset management.

Look at what Florida got for Luongo, who was at the time a far more coveted player: Damaged goods in Bertuzzi, Allen, and Auld. Patrick Roy with Kean only netted Rucinsky, Thibault and Kovalenko.

You won't get a ransom for Anderson, best value is in keeping him.

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