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02-14-2013, 12:57 PM
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Sather, try to pawn off Eminger/Bickel!

If Boyle isn't part of the teams plans get something for him!

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02-14-2013, 01:10 PM
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Ryan McDonagh is one of the 10 best defenseman in the game right now.

Arguably one of the 5 best.

It's amazing how few people notice it. The "problem" is that we have 3 guys who are all all-stars on the back end, and if MDZ can ever get his crap together, you have 4 guys really.

we're pretty blessed on the blueline.
Agree.

McDonagh is a star, in my mind. He's so good, but because he isn't as flashy and doesn't put up a ton of points, he doesn't get as much recognition.

McDonagh, Staal, and Girardi are the real deal.

Del Zotto's issues are all in his head. Some nights he looks smart, others he looks like he has bricks in his head.

Stralman is also very underrated.

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02-14-2013, 01:16 PM
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Derek Stepan produced the same stats as RoR last year after breaking in with 45 points (as opposed to RoR having 2 seasons with minimal tallies), plays the same position, plays the PK and is in a better contractual place - oh, and he's also captain material (if we didn't already have Cally).

Tell me again why we're trading for RoR? Or why we would need to pay the ridiculous prices people are suggesting? Chronic undervaluing of our players.

Not seeing a trade here.

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02-14-2013, 01:17 PM
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Derek Stepan produced the same stats as RoR last year after breaking in with 45 points (as opposed to RoR having 2 seasons with minimal tallies), plays the same position, plays the PK and is in a better contractual place - oh, and he's also captain material (if we didn't already have Cally).

Tell me again why we're trading for RoR? Or why we would need to pay the ridiculous prices people are suggesting? Chronic undervaluing of our players.

Not seeing a trade here.
We're tired of Stepan though. O'Reilly is Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

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02-14-2013, 01:18 PM
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Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton...(oh, wait, I thought the question was 'what would Brian Burke give up for Kessel'.)
I'd like to see a mega deal that returns these guys to us.

Will have it for you soon, maybe weekend.

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02-14-2013, 01:20 PM
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Derek Stepan produced the same stats as RoR last year after breaking in with 45 points (as opposed to RoR having 2 seasons with minimal tallies), plays the same position, plays the PK and is in a better contractual place - oh, and he's also captain material (if we didn't already have Cally).

Tell me again why we're trading for RoR? Or why we would need to pay the ridiculous prices people are suggesting? Chronic undervaluing of our players.

Not seeing a trade here.
I didn't call for moving Stepan. I just called for moving a winger for a centerman. Moer important to have an overabundance of depth at center and defense than anywhere else.

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02-14-2013, 01:20 PM
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Alfie is going nowhere, Gonchar would be a nice bottom pair partner for Stralman, and he might help the PP, key word "might"
Do NOT want, horrible D, too expensive.
Pens improved when they jettisoned him.

Best short term solution to PP as I and others have brought up is Paul Postma. The ? is the price...

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02-14-2013, 01:23 PM
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Its complicated, however, O'Reilly could end up being much more expensive to resign than Stepan. If O'Reilly wants 5 million a year, there will be no way the Rangers can sign him.

Maybe Ryan just wants out of Colorado, but I doubt it.
This is the problem w/O'Reilly for Stepan

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02-14-2013, 01:25 PM
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If O'Reilly won't sign a bridge contract in Colorado, I don't see him signing one here.
This, and the projection seems to be threading the needle to begin with.

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02-14-2013, 01:29 PM
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I could see them asking for Kreider for O'Reilly. Landeskog + Kreider on the wings would be tough to contain. Depending on what O'Reilly is asking for in a contract I would pull the trigger.

Richards
O'Reilly
Stepan
Boyle/Halpern

No on moving Kreider he has too much potential.
Don't forget that eye opener on Brodeur last game vs. Devils.

But if they are interested in a D, what about
Girardi + x
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O'Reilly + y

That might be something palatable as to salary cap.

We then look at getting Postma.

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02-14-2013, 01:32 PM
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I think we need both.
You think we need a PMD and a DFD?

Who exactly is getting the boot out of our D rotation then? Stralman? Del Zotto?

I think we just need 1 defenseman, thanks. And that's only if there's a great deal, otherwise I think we'll end up either calling up McIlrath or going with Gilroy come the playoffs and we'll be fine due to the strength of the top 4.

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02-14-2013, 01:33 PM
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Derek Stepan produced the same stats as RoR last year after breaking in with 45 points (as opposed to RoR having 2 seasons with minimal tallies), plays the same position, plays the PK and is in a better contractual place - oh, and he's also captain material (if we didn't already have Cally).

Tell me again why we're trading for RoR? Or why we would need to pay the ridiculous prices people are suggesting? Chronic undervaluing of our players.

Not seeing a trade here.
Because the grass is always greener on the other side.

People see stats, watch highlights of other players and think they will play like the highlights every game (I call it the video game syndrome).
And the stats have no context, who was on the ice, when (edit: and where) did they start the shifts ...

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02-14-2013, 01:35 PM
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I didn't call for moving Stepan. I just called for moving a winger for a centerman. Moer important to have an overabundance of depth at center and defense than anywhere else.
Wasn't directed specifically at you - a number of posts mentioned moving Steps.

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02-14-2013, 01:38 PM
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Wasn't directed specifically at you - a number of posts mentioned moving Steps.
Yeah I know, just making sure I wasn't lumped in with those guys.

Also, on the above about d-men, the Rangers need to add another defenseman before the playoffs. They need someone who can bring some pain to the opposition. Fistric? Murray? Someone who can be a warrior on the back-end and still play 15 minutes a night.

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02-14-2013, 01:50 PM
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Sather, try to pawn off Eminger/Bickel!

If Boyle isn't part of the teams plans get something for him!
How about Eminger for a 7th and............ Drumroll.............. Huge Specimen? these boards would explode!

Irony here would be that they were both #12 overall picks. Jessiman in 2003, Eminger in 2002!


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02-14-2013, 02:01 PM
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Stop overrating ROR. He's a nice young player but he is not matt duchene. These boards love to over value our own prospects/youngsters as well as others.

Stop with the extreme trades. Let the damn team
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Trading for RoR should cost no more than a 1st and 3rd. That's what it would cost if he is offer sheeted and the Avs do not match.

By the way, if RoR thought he was going to be a star, he would have signed a bridge contract by now. He wants to parlay 1 good season (out of 3) into a rich payday. And one more detail, he is holding out on his team that desperately needs forwards. His teammates are being decimated by injuries and he is still holding out, if that isn't selfish, don't know what is.
Exactly. ROR had one great season and he's screwing his team over trying to cash in on it. There's talk that he's upset they didn't make him captain now too - guy sounds a little immature. No thanks. Step is a fine second line center.

Talk about trading McD for him is hilarious. I would laugh and laugh and laugh if I were Sather on the phone with Colorado and got an offer like that. Then I'd light a cigar with a hundred dollar bill and start thinking about how to fleece Montreal next.

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ROR is not Bergeron.

I love how people said Kreider can become a Nash type over off season, but would think about trading him for O'Reilly.

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I'm not really interested in Kessel, any line he would be on would turn soft automatically. I wouldn't even give up Miller and a 1st for him. Gaborik is much more valuable than him as it is. We have a PWF, a sniper, and a supposed "playmaker" in Brad the Beaver who is MIA for now. Why add someone as soft as Kessel? If anything, i'd look into Chris Stewart, Ryan Clowe, someone of that mold who can replace what Rupp brought but actually handle himself in a fight and be a versatile secondary scorer on an already talent stacked team.
I'd agree, in that right now, for this team, I'd much rather a guy who can muck it up, defend, do everything well, in addition to putting the puck in the net.

That's not to say I wouldn't want another elite scorer here; I would. But I don't think Kessel is elite, I think he'd get lost in the wash (or in the system) here.

I'd rather a plus second line player who does the dirty work, like another Callahan, or a Dustin Brown, for this team right now.

Unless I can find a #1 center. I would give up a TON for a true #1 center. But there aren't many of those and even less are available. That's why I'm constantly fixated on if it would be possible to pry John Tavares from Long Island. He's not Crosby, he's not Stamkos, he's not Malkin, but he IS a true #1 center.

The tier/caliber player I'd be looking for is the Eric Staal/Joe Thornton/John Tavares/Ryan Getzlaf range.

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We need a big time D man who will knock people out of in front of the damn net so they don't score on all kinds of rebounds, and someone to protect Hank.
McIlrath!??!

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Wha!?!

I am one of Kreider's biggest fans, but O'Reilly is the MUCH better player and they are the same age. O'Reilly is a future Patrice Bergeron (and he isn't far off at this point).
I would do Kreider, but not McDonagh.

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Yeah I know, just making sure I wasn't lumped in with those guys.

Also, on the above about d-men, the Rangers need to add another defenseman before the playoffs. They need someone who can bring some pain to the opposition. Fistric? Murray? Someone who can be a warrior on the back-end and still play 15 minutes a night.
"A backline ice warrior to the New City was the need
To breaketh Matthew the Chefs jaw, and to make other foes bleed
The Cigar Man placed calls to all The Snow Teams Kings
And with it came Lord Stanleys Cup and his aftersought Rings"

One of either Murray or Erskine will be a Ranger before March 1st, 2013. Nostradamus hath spoken


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"A backline ice warrior to the New City was the need
To breaketh Matthew the Chefs jaw, and to make other foes bleed
The Cigar Man placed calls to all The Snow Teams Kings
And with it came Lord Stanleys Cup and his aftersought Rings"

One of either Murray or Erskine will be a Ranger before March 1st, 2013. Nostradamus hath spoken
Better be Murray, Erskine is god-awful.

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02-14-2013, 06:57 PM
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McDonagh for Ryan O'Rielly? What the hell??

There's no one on the Aves roster that I trade for Ryan McDonagh.

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You guys are really overhyping O'Reilly. This is coming from an Avs fan.

O'Reilly is like an improved version of Artem Anisimov. Better wheels, stronger on the puck, more ice awareness.

He's by no means an improvement over Stepan. They're similar players.

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