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Deadline scenario: Alfredsson

View Poll Results: Will Alfredsson be traded at the deadline if we are out?
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02-14-2013, 02:30 PM
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Murray should leave it alone til 1-2 weeks before the deadline and then have this talk. If Alfie isnt returning then i think he should be traded, if he plays another year then no. So obviously its Alfies choice but...

Do I think it will happen? No. Do I think it should happen? Maybe.

I mean Alfie is a smart guy. I think it would mean a lot to him to be a career senator, but on the other hand he might see it as getting us an asset that would help in the future if we're clearly out of the playoffs.

And its not like either scenario will really have that much effect on his reputation. Hell Borque did it and hes obviously on another tier. Alfie gets a job in the org. the second he feels like it no matter what happens.

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02-14-2013, 02:32 PM
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How about if we ship Gonchar and Alfredsson in a package deal to Pittsburgh?
Well, if he wants to go, he's deserved that much.

I'd only really tolerate it, as a fan, if he won the Cup.

Otherwise, it ends up like a Wayne Gretzky stint in St. Louis, or a Mats Sundin in Vancouver.

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02-14-2013, 02:52 PM
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This thread again...

Alfredsson said years ago that if it was best for the team he'd accept a trade.

Every player wants to win the cup. You'll never hear a player say "yeah I want to win the cup, but not on that team"



Get serious. Of course Alfredsson is going to say he wants to win here and finish his career here, but the harsh reality is that only one of those options remains viable.

The fans are irrational when it comes to Alfredsson, but just look at the facts. The team is decimated with injuries. Our two best players are gone for the year. Alfredsson is 40 years old, and clearly right at, or damn close to the end of the line.

For sure some contender would LOVE an Alfredsson / Gonchar addition at the deadline.

They are both UFA's to be anyway.

If Alfie wants to keep playing...sign him in the off season. If not, offer him some token ambassador position in the organization.

To me it's a no brainer. Our season is finished. Let go of the past and look to the future.

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02-14-2013, 03:01 PM
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If he wants to win a cup... I would trade him to a top contender

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02-14-2013, 03:02 PM
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I honestly believe Alfie would rather stay in Ottawa than win a cup

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02-14-2013, 03:16 PM
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How about if we ship Gonchar and Alfredsson in a package deal to Pittsburgh?
Absolutely not. I have so much hate for pittsburgh right now. I don't think pittsburgh will be winning the Cup either, they aren't as good as they look on paper.

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02-14-2013, 03:19 PM
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I don't see why he wouldn't want to go to a strong team to win. The dude has sacrificed so much to stay in Ottawa, I would hate to see him just fade away without winning one. Plus he could fetch us some assets for the future. But its up to him.

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02-14-2013, 03:35 PM
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Well, if he wants to go, he's deserved that much.

I'd only really tolerate it, as a fan, if he won the Cup.

Otherwise, it ends up like a Wayne Gretzky stint in St. Louis, or a Mats Sundin in Vancouver.
Not quite. As a matter of proportion, Alfie would play far less games for a foreign team than those two players. As a matter of principle, Alfie would still be just as much an Ottawa Senator when he retires.

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This thread again...

Alfredsson said years ago that if it was best for the team he'd accept a trade.

Every player wants to win the cup. You'll never hear a player say "yeah I want to win the cup, but not on that team"



Get serious. Of course Alfredsson is going to say he wants to win here and finish his career here, but the harsh reality is that only one of those options remains viable.

The fans are irrational when it comes to Alfredsson, but just look at the facts. The team is decimated with injuries. Our two best players are gone for the year. Alfredsson is 40 years old, and clearly right at, or damn close to the end of the line.

For sure some contender would LOVE an Alfredsson / Gonchar addition at the deadline.

They are both UFA's to be anyway.

If Alfie wants to keep playing...sign him in the off season. If not, offer him some token ambassador position in the organization.

To me it's a no brainer. Our season is finished. Let go of the past and look to the future.
Agreed with this, except for the last part. It's not about "letting go of the past". I'm willing to bet that 99% of the fans here will be happy with whatever Alfie decides, because they know he'll be bringing the Cup back to Ottawa in the summer if he wins it.

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02-14-2013, 03:43 PM
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Will he? No.

Should he? Yes.

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02-14-2013, 03:48 PM
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Not quite. As a matter of proportion, Alfie would play far less games for a foreign team than those two players. As a matter of principle, Alfie would still be just as much an Ottawa Senator when he retires.



Agreed with this, except for the last part. It's not about "letting go of the past". I'm willing to bet that 99% of the fans here will be happy with whatever Alfie decides, because they know he'll be bringing the Cup back to Ottawa in the summer if he wins it.
Huh?

Lots of players from Ottawa have won the cup. There is nothing special about a cup visit to the area when it was won by another team.

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02-14-2013, 03:51 PM
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Huh?

Lots of players from Ottawa have won the cup. There is nothing special about a cup visit to the area when it was won by another team.
That's not really relevant. Alfredsson is the Ottawa Senators. He will continue to be the face of this franchise following his retirement, for some time.

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02-14-2013, 04:06 PM
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No he's not, and no he won't be.

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02-14-2013, 04:10 PM
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No he's not, and no he won't be.
I think that opinion puts you in a very small minority, at least to the extent you don't think he's the face of the franchise.

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02-14-2013, 04:10 PM
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No he's not, and no he won't be.
Everyone listen to this guy, he knows everything and you know nothing!

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02-14-2013, 04:31 PM
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I don't see him asking for an out

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02-14-2013, 04:46 PM
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Simply put, if he's even thinking about coming back next season we should hang on to him.

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02-14-2013, 05:41 PM
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I'd like to see Alfie make a run at a cup, just not with an Eastern team. Vancouver would be ideal.

In a dream world we'd see him come back after that cup run for one last run with the sens next season in a second line role (behind Perry at RW).

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No he's not, and no he won't be.
I agree. Don't get me wrong I love Alfie and he'll always have a spot in Ottawa but with Spezza and especially Karlsson, once Alfie retires those guys immediately become the face of the franchise.

It's hard for people to understand because we're such a young franchise and don't have that historic base but if Montreal could move on from Maurice freaking Richard we can move on from Alfie.

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No he's not, and no he won't be.
Johnny is right, this is Erik Karlsson's team now. Whatever Alfie wants, Alfie gets. Period

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02-14-2013, 05:45 PM
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All great captains must go down with their ship.

No way in hell Alfie gets traded.

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All great captains must go down with their ship.

No way in hell Alfie gets traded.

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All great captains must go down with their ship.

No way in hell Alfie gets traded.
Alfie has gone down with this ship fighting every year. 16 out of 17 times not good enough for you?

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Honestly?

No.

I can't think of a team this year that is a clear SC contender, which just means it's a crap shoot and seeing him in another jersey isn't worth that.
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No he's not, and no he won't be.
Granted I don't live in Ottawa, but when I think of the Sens, I think of Alphie.

He is not only the face of the franchise, but a class one at that.

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Step 1: Trade Alfie to cup winning team
Step 2: Sign Alfie in the off-season
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!

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