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02-14-2013, 08:00 PM
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Jones or Seto. Seto has been mentioned in Wild rumours, and I can't see any other Avs winger that would be available

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I'm surprised how many Pens fans are ready to give up Niskanen. He's been good for the Pens and is on a good contract. I'm hoping he's not involved in the trade.

I can't imagine Jones' contract not being an issue for the Pens.
Gotta give to get. I'd say they're pretty similar in value. I'd like us to target a bigger body, but I have no doubt in my mind Seto would produce next to Sid.

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02-14-2013, 08:02 PM
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Gotta give to get. I'd say they're pretty similar in value. I'd like us to target a bigger body, but I have no doubt in my mind Seto would produce next to Sid.
Did you guys adopt this as your motto or something?

I'm aware of how trading works. I understand that they're going to have to give up someone and I never said otherwise, all I said was that I don't want to see them trade Niskanen.

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What player/contract if any would Pitt want want to dump if they could?

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What player/contract if any would Pitt want want to dump if they could?
We really don't have any. Kennedy?

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The wild average 1 goal a game. I highly doubt they trade seto now that he's starting to heat up.

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We really don't have any. Kennedy?
I did not see any that stood out either.
If its Jones, I'd imagine Avs would have to retain some % then.

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I believe I heard somewhere that the Wild had a scout at the Pens game last night.

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I wish that Jamie McGinn was available.


I don't think Ray Shero will trade for a top-6 forward until trade deadline, or if the pens start struggling.

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I'd rather give up prospects+picks than Niskanen even if it costs a little more.

Still do not want to break up this D-core the Pens have unless Shero has a plan to acquire a veteran D-man

Adding a top-6 doesn't make up for what we'd lose if Niskanen/Orpik/Martin was involved. We need solid defenders more than someone who can put the puck in the net.

4th in PP (was just 2nd before last night)
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Kennedy for Setoguchi.

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Is Jones the worst contract in the NHL?

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Kennedy for Setoguchi.
Good one?

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Yeah, I understand that. But there are players & prospects I'd rather see them trade before they traded Niskanen.
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I'm surprised how many Pens fans are ready to give up Niskanen. He's been good for the Pens and is on a good contract. I'm hoping he's not involved in the trade.

I can't imagine Jones' contract not being an issue for the Pens.
Yes, I agree. However... how many D do we have in the system? Niskanen doesn't really bring anything special to the table. He's not a PP guy, he's not a shutdown type. Don't get me wrong... I'm a huge fan of his. However he's an expendable asset in an area that we're stacked at. The Pens looked fine while he was out, and we still have Morrow and Dumoulin in the minors. I'd rather move a prospect as well... but I don't see Minny being willing to do that.

As for Jones... I can't see us touching him. His contract (even for his production last year) is questionable at best.

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Good one?
I agree you'll probably get more but Setoguchi's value is at an all time low right now.

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I'd rather give up prospects+picks than Niskanen even if it costs a little more.

Still do not want to break up this D-core the Pens have unless Shero has a plan to acquire a veteran D-man

Adding a top-6 doesn't make up for what we'd lose if Niskanen/Orpik/Martin was involved. We need solid defenders more than someone who can put the puck in the net.

4th in PP (was just 2nd before last night)
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What does Niskanen bring that we can't replace? We were fine until Letang went down. That is really Niskanen's only asset that we can't replace... his ability to do some of what Letang does. But... if that's the case, we're not winning the cup or going deep without Letang.

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I really think whatever Shero and Chuck Fletcher are discussing is pretty far along. I wouldn't be stunned in the least if they get together and make a deal right after the game. Pens scouts have been watching the Wild for a while, so it's not like he's there for some first impression.

Only names I've heard who are of interest to the Pens are Setoguchi and Clutterbuck. Not sure what specifically the Wild would target coming back, although I figure Niskanen makes a lot of sense.

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Yes, I agree. However... how many D do we have in the system? Niskanen doesn't really bring anything special to the table. He's not a PP guy, he's not a shutdown type. Don't get me wrong... I'm a huge fan of his. However he's an expendable asset in an area that we're stacked at. The Pens looked fine while he was out, and we still have Morrow and Dumoulin in the minors. I'd rather move a prospect as well... but I don't see Minny being willing to do that.

As for Jones... I can't see us touching him. His contract (even for his production last year) is questionable at best.



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I'm more thinking ahead to the playoffs than anything. If Niskanen gets traded, unless Shero picks up another decent veteran D they'd have two rookies and Engelland - who as far as I can remember has been benched in the playoffs for the past couple of seasons - playing.

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The Pens were willing to pay Staal big money, perhaps they are willing to do the same with O'Reilly.

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The Pens were willing to pay Staal big money, perhaps they are willing to do the same with O'Reilly.
i doubt they're after O'Reilly. besides, he's a center and i read somewhere that he'd have trouble switching his game to the wing.

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What does Niskanen bring that we can't replace? We were fine until Letang went down. That is really Niskanen's only asset that we can't replace... his ability to do some of what Letang does. But... if that's the case, we're not winning the cup or going deep without Letang.
Just because he doesn't necessarily bring something we can't replace doesn't mean we should be actively shopping him.

He's a consistent top-4 defender that brings experience, composure and solid play at both ends of the ice. That's something you need come playoff time.

I can see why he's expendable with Bortuzzo showing glimpses of his top-4 potential and Despres showing he can play top pairing minutes/assignments, but it's a risky move going in the playoffs.

If Niskanen is moved, I'm really hoping Shero has a plan to have a defender included or getting one somewhere else.

Top-4 defenders aren't exactly easy to find in this league....

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The Pens were willing to pay Staal big money, perhaps they are willing to do the same with O'Reilly.
Sutter works just fine as a 3C and at a much more prudent level of investment for what a team with Crosby and Malkin SHOULD be spending for that position. Unless O'Reilly can play the wing, it makes no sense for the Penguins.

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Malkin to the wing, O'Reilly as 2C. Make it happen Ray

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