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02-15-2013, 07:44 AM
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The Habs need to get bigger rather than rely on a single enfoecer.

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02-15-2013, 07:48 AM
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Ya know, if we had Kassian in the lineup last knight we'd have beat them 5-0 due to intimidation from his sheer presence in our lineup. Just sayin'

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02-15-2013, 08:40 AM
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The Habs need to get bigger rather than rely on a single enfoecer.
In case you didn't notice they got a lot bigger up front adding Pacioretty(full time) Prust Bourque Cole just the last 2 seasons.

We probably need to replace Gill on defense though.

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02-15-2013, 08:49 AM
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I'd take guys like Konopka, Rupp, Thornton on my 4th line. Hordichuk, Orr or Kassian? Not really.

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02-15-2013, 08:53 AM
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I'd take guys like Konopka, Rupp, Thornton on my 4th line. Hordichuk, Orr or Kassian? Not really.
Konopka is Prust or Moen with less skill. Thornton as we saw with Scott can't compete with the big heavyweights.

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02-15-2013, 09:56 AM
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I'd take guys like Konopka, Rupp, Thornton on my 4th line. Hordichuk, Orr or Kassian? Not really.
at this point, Orr is probably better than Rupp

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02-15-2013, 10:13 AM
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Erskine would be a good fit for MTL. He is the perfect 6-7 defenceman and can drop the gloves against anybody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=pOqan4jMAn4

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02-15-2013, 10:17 AM
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We need to play the physical game more intelligently, even if we got bigger.

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02-15-2013, 10:40 AM
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Erskine would be a good fit for MTL. He is the perfect 6-7 defenceman and can drop the gloves against anybody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=pOqan4jMAn4
I would be a fan of adding him even if it cost a 4th or 5th rounder or a "B" prospect. He's a legit heavyweight and can play.

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02-15-2013, 11:26 AM
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Ya know, if we had Kassian in the lineup last knight we'd have beat them 5-0 due to intimidation from his sheer presence in our lineup. Just sayin'
Teams would just forfeit the game immediately.

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02-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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The Habs need to get bigger rather than rely on a single enfoecer.
The Habs ARE big. We got Cole, Pacioretty, Bourque, Galchenyuk, Prust, Moen, Armstrong, Eller and White who are 6 feet or more. We need a single enforcer to reinforce our team toughness up front.

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02-15-2013, 11:36 AM
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Konopka is Prust or Moen with less skill. Thornton as we saw with Scott can't compete with the big heavyweights.
But this is John Scott we're talking about. You're not even talking about the majority of the heavyweights. Thornton can hold his own against most heavyweights. If the point is to get THE best heavyweight, well I guess Chara or Scott aren't available. Or Orr isn't either since he dropped Scott. Though frankly, we have no idea how Scott would fare the next time he meets Orr. He might not take it for granted. Since we can't get the unavailable, you have to "settle" with others.

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02-15-2013, 12:02 PM
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But this is John Scott we're talking about. You're not even talking about the majority of the heavyweights. Thornton can hold his own against most heavyweights. If the point is to get THE best heavyweight, well I guess Chara or Scott aren't available. Or Orr isn't either since he dropped Scott. Though frankly, we have no idea how Scott would fare the next time he meets Orr. He might not take it for granted. Since we can't get the unavailable, you have to "settle" with others.
Since when Chara is the best heavyweight? oh yeah, NEVER

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02-15-2013, 12:07 PM
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But this is John Scott we're talking about. You're not even talking about the majority of the heavyweights. Thornton can hold his own against most heavyweights. If the point is to get THE best heavyweight, well I guess Chara or Scott aren't available. Or Orr isn't either since he dropped Scott. Though frankly, we have no idea how Scott would fare the next time he meets Orr. He might not take it for granted. Since we can't get the unavailable, you have to "settle" with others.
Hockey's not MMA. You don't need to have THE best heavyweight, just somebody that will stand up against anybody and not look like an idiot. They all win some and lose some. After all you only need 1 good punch to KO somebody.

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02-15-2013, 12:10 PM
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Since when Chara is the best heavyweight? oh yeah, NEVER
Who has dominated Chara in a fight? He isn't really a heavyweight because he's not an enforcer, but I don't know if someone could drop him...

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02-15-2013, 12:13 PM
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Who has dominated Chara in a fight? He isn't really a heavyweight because he's not an enforcer, but I don't know if someone could drop him...
Parker tko'ed him, Langdon beat him 2x and Worrel multiple time. Chara's not a good fighter. Takedown doesn't count as a win

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02-15-2013, 01:35 PM
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No they aren't. NHL'ers will do what got them into the NHL, regardless of a Matt Kassian playing 3 minutes on the other team.
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Teams would just forfeit the game immediately.
You two can argue until you're blue in the face. It won't change the reality. Players know best...

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02-15-2013, 01:47 PM
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The skill difference between Eller and Konopka, or between Moen and Kassian, is enormous.
It's too bad Eller or moen aren't 4th liners or your point might be relevant.

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02-15-2013, 01:58 PM
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Parker tko'ed him, Langdon beat him 2x and Worrel multiple time. Chara's not a good fighter. Takedown doesn't count as a win
I know he's not and do mostly take down, but all the player you named aren't playing anymore. Would like to see a Scott and Chara real fight (since he doesn't really ever fight). That would be big

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I know he's not and do mostly take down, but all the player you named aren't playing anymore. Would like to see a Scott and Chara real fight (since he doesn't really ever fight). That would be big
Tune in tonight. It might happen

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02-15-2013, 02:03 PM
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I know he's not and do mostly take down, but all the player you named aren't playing anymore. Would like to see a Scott and Chara real fight (since he doesn't really ever fight). That would be big
and? Mcgrattan is a better fighter than all the players I've named and he still play. If the best heavyweight fighter can't trade punch with Neil and have a balance comparable to a banana on skates, its not good.......

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and? Mcgrattan is a better fighter than all the players I've named and he still play. If the best heavyweight fighter can't trade punch with Neil and have a balance comparable to a banana on skates, its not good.......
Chara -> 1st pairing D.

who care if he isnt the best fighter out there. Seriously.

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02-15-2013, 02:14 PM
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Chara -> 1st pairing D.

who care if he isnt the best fighter out there. Seriously.
I just responded to a guy who think Chara is the best fighter in the NHL. If you don't like it, just pass my post. seriously

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02-15-2013, 02:19 PM
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But this is John Scott we're talking about. You're not even talking about the majority of the heavyweights. Thornton can hold his own against most heavyweights. If the point is to get THE best heavyweight, well I guess Chara or Scott aren't available. Or Orr isn't either since he dropped Scott. Though frankly, we have no idea how Scott would fare the next time he meets Orr. He might not take it for granted. Since we can't get the unavailable, you have to "settle" with others.
Chara a top heavyweight? Wha? More like a bully that preys on non fighters.

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Erskine would be a good fit for MTL. He is the perfect 6-7 defenceman and can drop the gloves against anybody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=pOqan4jMAn4
Erskine is the best player we could get. He's exactly what we need. + He's probabbly the only player available that fits this bill.
+We get a bonus: He's strong as a bear.

Him or Carkner and I'd be happy. Even Engelland would satisfy me.

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