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02-15-2013, 12:43 PM
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He will most likely cost more than Richards. And the chance of him wanting to come to NY, who even knows?
I am not sure he will get more on average than Richards. The maximum length will be 7 years I believe. Maybe 7x7. There will be a lot of teams in some cap trouble this off-season. Not a good year to go UFA honestly.

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02-15-2013, 12:45 PM
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Well, most people don't love it.

Callahan dropped the gloves this season. That worked out great, right?
Well he was sticking up for Lundqvist who was getting wacked by Talbot while looking for a loose puck.. so you would rather have Talbot wacking at Lundqvist with no one doing anything about... what if Cooke runs Lundqvist and no penalty call on the play, you rather have the Rangers skate away like when Drury got knocked out and when Sauer got knocked out.

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02-15-2013, 12:48 PM
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Don't forget that if Getzlaf hits free agency, the Laughs will throw everything they can at him, too.

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Unrestricted Free Agent.

He will test the market. Everyone does.
Ummm...false.

Chara re-signed. Thornton re-signed. Backes re-signed. Burns re-signed. All before they hit the market. The list goes on.

If a player is happy with their current situation, and the team gives a good offer, they'll stay. There's no guarantee he hits the market, UFA or not.

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02-15-2013, 12:53 PM
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Don't forget that if Getzlaf hits free agency, the Laughs will throw everything they can at him, too.
Fact. Although I wonder if he would want to go there with the odd dynamics of the team.

Also Kessel is a UFA a year after and Lupul is a UFA this year. The team won't be the same. I could see Buffalo making a major push for him. If they buy-out Leino they will have some money available.

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Ummm...false.

Chara re-signed. Thornton re-signed. Backes re-signed. Burns re-signed. All before they hit the market. The list goes on.

If a player is happy with their current situation, and the team gives a good offer, they'll stay. There's no guarantee he hits the market, UFA or not.
Ok, technically not EVERYONE. But a large majority of players test the open market. It's good business to do so and potentially can get you more money from the team you're currently with. Negotiating 101.

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Unrestricted Free Agent.

He will test the market. Everyone does.
This is so false, especially these days. There's been so few free agents with skill hitting the market recently its disturbing. Each year there are like 1 or 2 big free agents who make it. All the rest are role players who either had meh or career seasons (like prust) and cash in.

Carter
Richards
Malkin
Crosby
etc etc etc...the list goes on and on

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Lupul signed an extension.

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02-15-2013, 12:57 PM
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This is so false, especially these days. There's been so few free agents with skill hitting the market recently its disturbing. Each year there are like 1 or 2 big free agents who make it. All the rest are role players who either had meh or career seasons (like prust) and cash in.

Carter
Richards
Malkin
Crosby
etc etc etc...the list goes on and on
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Ummm...false.

Chara re-signed. Thornton re-signed. Backes re-signed. Burns re-signed. All before they hit the market. The list goes on.

If a player is happy with their current situation, and the team gives a good offer, they'll stay. There's no guarantee he hits the market, UFA or not.
Why is Gabby an exception in 2014?

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Why is Gabby an exception in 2014?
Huh, who said he is? I hope Gabby stays.

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Lupul signed an extension.
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Huh, who said he is? I hope Gabby stays.
If he asks for anything more than a 3 year contract, no thank you. 32 year old on another 5 year contract. For a player who relies greatly on his speed and elusiveness?

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Huh, who said he is? I hope Gabby stays.
Most everybody here wants to trade Gabby "before he walks".

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Most everybody here wants to trade Gabby "before he walks".
I don't think the Rangers will be able to re-sign Gaborik due to his demands after this contract is up. I could be wrong, but I bet he will be looking for a 5 year deal again.

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02-15-2013, 01:27 PM
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Ummm...false.

Chara re-signed. Thornton re-signed. Backes re-signed. Burns re-signed. All before they hit the market. The list goes on.

If a player is happy with their current situation, and the team gives a good offer, they'll stay. There's no guarantee he hits the market, UFA or not.
Not to mention with the new CBA, players can actually make more money on their deal if they stay because the team can sign their own players for up to 8 years as opposed to the 7 years available to other teams.

By most accounts, Getzlaf -- and his wife especially -- really enjoys SoCal and wants to stay. However, there's a decent chance that Perry and Getz are a package deal to any team that's interested. Even if we trade Gaborik and exercise a compliance on Richards, there's just no way we'd be able to afford them both. $7M+ for each. Right back in the same boat we started in when it comes to retaining our own guys. And that's assuming we can ship out Gaborik without taking on salary, which is virtually impossible in itself.

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02-15-2013, 01:31 PM
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Yeah, I personally expect both Perry and Getzlaf to either stay in Anaheim or head to Toronto as a pair. Perry and Phaneuf deserve each other.

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Even if we can't get Getzlaf the point is we need the flexibility. Ideally, keep Richards until we can replace him with something greater, but actually the amnesty buyout doesn't work that way.

$6.67m is even more proportionally post-lockout than it was when he signed. We cannot keep that money locked up long-term on a player who is only going to go downhill (fact) and who has a no movement clause.

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Not to mention with the new CBA, players can actually make more money on their deal if they stay because the team can sign their own players for up to 8 years as opposed to the 7 years available to other teams.

By most accounts, Getzlaf -- and his wife especially -- really enjoys SoCal and wants to stay. However, there's a decent chance that Perry and Getz are a package deal to any team that's interested. Even if we trade Gaborik and exercise a compliance on Richards, there's just no way we'd be able to afford them both. $7M+ for each. Right back in the same boat we started in when it comes to retaining our own guys. And that's assuming we can ship out Gaborik without taking on salary, which is virtually impossible in itself.
Even if it was plausible from a cap perspective, I still wouldn't be for it. That's just too much shake up and change for a team that just traded two young homegrown players for Nash after finishing in first place. These players aren't interchangeable parts. This team isn't a position to do something crazy like that.

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02-15-2013, 01:57 PM
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So, two years ago, the team was mediocre, barely snuck into the playoffs, and lost immeidately. The biggest roster change they made the following summer was adding Brad Richards. Last year, the team went to the conference finals despite lacking truly ideal linemates for Richards.
Yeah, let' give Richards all the credit.

Who cares that Girardi played Norris-caliber hockey, Ryan McDonagh miraculously turned into a #1 dman, MDZ had the turn around season of the decade, and Lundqvist won the Vezina.

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With Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul, Grabvoski, Kulemin and Liles I really doubt the Leafs would be able to offer (2) 7 million dollar contracts.

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02-15-2013, 02:16 PM
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Even if it was plausible from a cap perspective, I still wouldn't be for it. That's just too much shake up and change for a team that just traded two young homegrown players for Nash after finishing in first place. These players aren't interchangeable parts. This team isn't a position to do something crazy like that.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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With Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul, Grabvoski, Kulemin and Liles I really doubt the Leafs would be able to offer (2) 7 million dollar contracts.
They'd probably ditch Kulemin and Grabovski if they had a chance to get those two.

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Hopefully this is a sign he's ready to wake the **** up

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he'll have this season an next season before a decision is made to be bought out or not... thats his window to improve or buyout forsure!!!

we've been down the road way to many times and it will happen.. I think if Malkin hits FA in 14' we have to buyout richards and nab him without a doubt with everyone else..but time will tell..

we have 1.5yrs left before we have major decisions..

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Hopefully this is a sign he's ready to wake the **** up
Sounds like a guy accepting it like its something that just happens and is okay.

I wish he'd be as mad as Boyle, because the difference is, if he plays a game like Boyle did against the Isle he'll actually make a difference.

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