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02-14-2013, 01:44 PM
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Well, his cap hit is going to be a huge factor. How many playoff caliber teams are going to have the cap space to add Briere when the cap drops? Plus he has a NMC so he'd probably only want to go to a true contender if he was forced to move. That limits the amount of partners immensely. I know how good Briere is in the playoffs, but can you guarantee me that he'll be just as good, on a team in a new conference, at age 37 and 38?
In the playoffs yes. It's all mental with him. It's crazy to see the transformation. When playoffs come he's a different man. Either way though I agree that his contract makes this a non issue.

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02-14-2013, 01:50 PM
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So does no one on this board know how good Briere is in the playoffs? He leads all active players in playoff points. In my opinion cap-hit aside he has a higher value than all the players involved. If his cap hit wasn't so high this trade would be a joke.

I would ask for more than Stewart for sure. If the flyers a trying to get rid of salary is the only way this trade is possible. I also doubt that any team wants to take on more salary at this point with the cap going down.
Shattenkirk easily has more value then Briere. Shattenkirk is a young defenseman with 2 40 point season already and is currently at a ppg pace obviously we don't think he will keep that up but do think he will be around 45-55 points a season for a while maybe even hitting 60 points.

I wouldn't trade Stewart for Briere either as he is 10 years younger. Stewart had a horrible season last year but seems to be rebounding has had 2 28 goal seasons and seems like he will eventually settle in as a 50-65 point player scoring 25-30 goals.

Briere is a playoff beast I agree. The regular season does matter as well though. Briere is 35 years old I just have no interest in trading young talented players for a 35 year old.

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02-14-2013, 02:06 PM
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As a Flyers fan what would it take for Perron? What are the Blues needs? I see the PK isn't great (23rd). Would a deal for Perron surrounding Briere work? It all depends on what the Blues need. Would Meszaros be an upgrade for the Blues defense? If the Flyers can move Danny B for a winger it removes the logjam they will have next season.
What do you guys think of Blue getting Briere and Meszaros for Perron and maybe a pick depending how well they do?

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02-14-2013, 02:10 PM
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As a Flyers fan what would it take for Perron? What are the Blues needs? I see the PK isn't great (23rd). Would a deal for Perron surrounding Briere work? It all depends on what the Blues need. Would Meszaros be an upgrade for the Blues defense? If the Flyers can move Danny B for a winger it removes the logjam they will have next season.
What do you guys think of Blue getting Briere and Meszaros for Perron and maybe a pick depending how well they do?
Perron for Brayden Schenn?

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02-14-2013, 02:14 PM
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As a Flyers fan what would it take for Perron? What are the Blues needs? I see the PK isn't great (23rd). Would a deal for Perron surrounding Briere work? It all depends on what the Blues need. Would Meszaros be an upgrade for the Blues defense? If the Flyers can move Danny B for a winger it removes the logjam they will have next season.
What do you guys think of Blue getting Briere and Meszaros for Perron and maybe a pick depending how well they do?
Our whole team defense just isn't there yet. We have plenty of capable PK players so I wouldn't look to make a deal, just to try to better our PK, especially by trading Perron.

I would only try to acquire Briere by giving picks and prospects, no roster players, unless you'd want somebody like D'agastini as a throw-in to the deal. If I'm trading Perron it would be for more of a Shut down caliber #2 guy since we already have plenty of offense from the back end already so I wouldn't be too interested in Mezsaros.

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02-14-2013, 02:17 PM
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Perron and a pick for Couturier?

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02-14-2013, 02:22 PM
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The Flyers traded JVR and lost Jagr to free agency because they want to move forward with our core of young centers. Brayden Schenn, Sean Couturier are going nowhere. They are vital to the Flyers plans now and in the future. Just like the Blue don't want to move Shatty, we will not move those two kids.

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02-14-2013, 02:31 PM
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Briere is of no interest to me. Coming off an injury. Playoff history or not. We too are a young team and definitely don't need to get smaller. Briere for Andy Mac would be about the only deal I would make, if you could offset the cap hit.

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02-14-2013, 02:36 PM
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I think Perron for Schenn is a pretty fair deal. I think the Flyers would need a pick to even it out as Schenn I think will be slightly better. Value wise its extremely close but hard to imagine them moving Brayden after trading for his brother. As of now I think they Flyers are a hard team to do deals with. Briere and Meszaros are the only two players that have good value and are tradeable. Otherwise its going to require overpayment for the players that most teams want. But with that said, I'd move Briere for picks/prospects.

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02-14-2013, 02:43 PM
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Why do Blue fans get talking about Briere's cap hit? The team constantly spends to 50 million, and his salary is perfect for the team. 3 million next year and 2 million the following. He is the perfect player for a budget team. They can spend a little more in the cap, but not in real money.

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02-14-2013, 02:50 PM
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Perron and a pick for Couturier?
Lol really?

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02-14-2013, 02:52 PM
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I think Perron for Schenn is a pretty fair deal. I think the Flyers would need a pick to even it out as Schenn I think will be slightly better. Value wise its extremely close but hard to imagine them moving Brayden after trading for his brother. As of now I think they Flyers are a hard team to do deals with. Briere and Meszaros are the only two players that have good value and are tradeable. Otherwise its going to require overpayment for the players that most teams want. But with that said, I'd move Briere for picks/prospects.
This. And if the flyers are out of the playoff race I could see something along those lines. But right now the flyers are a playoff team. Injuries are going to be the big factor this year.so hold on to your depth..

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02-14-2013, 02:55 PM
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The Flyers traded JVR and lost Jagr to free agency because they want to move forward with our core of young centers. Brayden Schenn, Sean Couturier are going nowhere. They are vital to the Flyers plans now and in the future. Just like the Blue don't want to move Shatty, we will not move those two kids.

Boom. Conversation over. Flyers had a bad start. They're a team moving in the right direction. They will make their big moves in the offseason. Plus this team actually have some good prospects that are age eligible to play in the AHL next year. This team is on the way up now, not down. They went younger on purpose.

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02-14-2013, 03:03 PM
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Lol really?
You need someone who can score goals. Perron needs someone who can get him the puck and think the game like he does. It would be scary Giroux and him playing together. He will be a 40 goal scorer. His hands are about as good as you will see. Like Couturier, he just needs some time. If he played the entire season last year, then he would have been a 30 goal scorer.

I don't mind the Schenn for Perron deal either. Like you have said, I don't see the flyers moving their young centers though.

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Why do Blue fans get talking about Briere's cap hit? The team constantly spends to 50 million, and his salary is perfect for the team. 3 million next year and 2 million the following. He is the perfect player for a budget team. They can spend a little more in the cap, but not in real money.
The Blues have a lot of players to sign next year and they won't be cheap.

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02-14-2013, 03:16 PM
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You need someone who can score goals. Perron needs someone who can get him the puck and think the game like he does. It would be scary Giroux and him playing together. He will be a 40 goal scorer. His hands are about as good as you will see. Like Couturier, he just needs some time. If he played the entire season last year, then he would have been a 30 goal scorer.

I don't mind the Schenn for Perron deal either. Like you have said, I don't see the flyers moving their young centers though.
No I'm sorry we don't. This has been a short season. If you want couturier you'd have to give up Pietrangelo. Which you would be insane to do. So just stop.

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02-14-2013, 06:03 PM
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While I mostly agree, I would like to add a qualifier to this.
We could absolutely stand to move a winger for a center in a change of scenery type deal.

Something like D'Agostini for Max Talbot might be something we'd look in to in order to push Steen back onto the wing.
I see this deal as a possible win win for both of us.

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I see this deal as a possible win win for both of us.

I like this deal as well

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As a neutral viewer of the blues...I could easily see then moving Perron, really I dont know why they wouldnt...doesnt seem to fit the style of team they are building. He seems to need a real offensive talent on his line, while the blues focus on depth and grinding it out up front.

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Perron for Brayden Schenn?
Pass. I don't see why we would do something like this; especially after acquiring Luke Schenn.

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Perron and a pick for Couturier?
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Perron and a pick for Couturier?
Would love for something like that to go down but I doubt Philly would. Could push Steen back to LW and have 3 good centers. A man can dream.

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02-15-2013, 01:29 PM
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Perron is too injury prone.

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Perron is too injury prone.
Literally one injury.

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Perron is too injury prone.
Someone seems to have to much time on their hands to just goes into Blues threads it seems.

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