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2014 - Canada Roster Discussion (Part IV)

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02-15-2013, 09:21 AM
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Worst thread I've seen in a while

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02-15-2013, 09:22 AM
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Um, Keith plays over Girardi, and Luongo starts over Price...

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02-15-2013, 09:26 AM
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OEL is absolutely the #1 d-man on the 'Yotes. Second, he would make the Canadian roster no doubt in my mind. And at someone saying Weber plays OEL's Game better than OEL.

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02-15-2013, 09:27 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby - Giroux
Nash - Tavares - Eberle
Staal - Toews - Perry
Richards - Bergeron - Staal
Neal - Iginla

Doughty - Weber
Letang - Pietrangelo
Girardi - Staal
Seabrook - Keith

Price
Luongo
Fleury



Does any other nation even have a chance?
very funny looooooooooooooooooooool

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02-15-2013, 09:29 AM
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Nothing ever will.

Greatest Canadian Olympic team ever.

What was so special about that team? All the "Hall of Famers" except for Brodeur, Pronger, Niedermayer and Sakic were far from their prime.

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02-15-2013, 09:31 AM
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Best team on paper hands down but so was the WJC team and look what happened. Single elimination all it takes is a hot goalie to steal a game.

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That goaltending is not close to being the best IMO. So yes, other teams easily have a chance.

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02-15-2013, 09:33 AM
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International ice, we know how well that worked last time.

I like though that we'll be more built on speed than in 2006 though, in all likelyhood.

And yeah, no Thornton please.

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02-15-2013, 09:42 AM
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What was so special about that team? All the "Hall of Famers" except for Brodeur, Pronger, Niedermayer and Sakic were far from their prime.
- Broke a 50 year drought for Canadian Gold in hockey.
- Excellent coaching. (No Gretzky in the shootout)
- No Rob Zamuner.
- Roster is pretty crazy even compared to 1998.

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02-15-2013, 09:49 AM
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When playing on big ice I would take Sweden's defense in a heartbeat. Their skating and puck-moving skills/potential in D core are through the roof. One and half year more development for the youngsters from Sweden (basically every one of them) comparing to many older Canadian dmen. Also Russia has some awesome puckmoving dmen in the KHL which obviously NHL-only guys wouldn't know. They could basically take almost every dman from KHL when playing in the big ice and compare in skills to every other in the tournament (only problem for Russia is that they don't know how to play defense as a team...).
There's no team that will just skate over others for the gold but ofcourse with that offensive talent and depth Canada is able to skate, they are the favorites every time.

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02-15-2013, 10:00 AM
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They are to you what Finland is to the US (always seem to beat us in the Worlds)
Except that Finland is much better than Switzerland on paper, and a closer match to the US.

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02-15-2013, 10:07 AM
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That goaltending is not close to being the best IMO. So yes, other teams easily have a chance.
Came here to post this.

Would take US goaltending easily over Canada's.

Also Lundqvist and Pekka will make there teams have a chance in one game series regardless of the group in front of them.

I don't want this to come off the wrong way, but Canada doesn't own hockey the way it used to. Sure they still produce a lot of great players, but US hockey is becoming pretty formidable.

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02-15-2013, 10:10 AM
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In single elimination Olympics all it takes is a hot goalie and a few good/bad bounces

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02-15-2013, 10:10 AM
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If only this board would have an International Hockey section so this type of idiocy doesn't clog up the NHL board. Oh, wait.....


Moving.

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Torino's team was just as good on paper and they got smoked so...

Of course in hindsight everyone was complaining it was too slow and old but that team was amazing

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No,op Canada is always destined to win and no team is even close to canadian dominance.Canada wins by default.Just like Team Canada had no competition at WJC this year,oh wait..

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Herb Brooks says hi, OP

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02-15-2013, 10:34 AM
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IŽll write some analysis about the best olympic teams soon. This is one of the options I can see right now for Team Canada:


Forwards

John Tavares - Sidney Crosby - James Neal

Steven Stamkos - Jonathan Toews - Martin St.Louis

Patrick Marleau - Eric Staal - Claude Giroux

Rick Nash - Patrice Bergeron - Corey Perry


13th: Tyler Seguin
14th: Jordan Eberle / Taylor Hall / Jamie Benn / ...



Defenders

Kris Letang - Shea Weber

Marc Staal - Drew Doughty

Duncan Keith - Alex Pietrangelo


7th: P.K. Subban (or Seabrook, Girardi, Burns, Hamhuis - hard to say)
8th: Mike Green / Dan Boyle / Justin Schultz / Jay Bouwmeester / Michael Del Zotto / Brian Campbel / ...



Goaltenders


Corey Pice

Roberto Luongo

Mike Smith / Cameron Ward...
this spot is open.

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02-15-2013, 10:38 AM
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Why is Price getting the nod over Luongo? Price has done squat compared to Luongo. Has he even been a starter when the Habs won a playoff series?

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02-15-2013, 10:58 AM
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Why is Price getting the nod over Luongo? Price has done squat compared to Luongo. Has he even been a starter when the Habs won a playoff series?
Yes.

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02-15-2013, 11:16 AM
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Yes.
He did? I honestly can't think of it.

I would have Price and Luongo as my top 2 goalies though. As long as it's not Smith or Fleury.

EDIT: Boston in 2008.

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02-15-2013, 12:35 PM
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No,op Canada is always destined to win and no team is even close to canadian dominance.Canada wins by default.Just like Team Canada had no competition at WJC this year,oh wait..
Canada can't win every year, sometimes its good for the excitement of the tournament (having a fear of losing). You should know about this, you guys let a non-american dominate the hot dog eating competition.

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It's always... interesting to see what happens when a thread gets moved into here.

Prior to the last Olympics, Canada invited 46 players to the summer camp. There were 5 goaltenders, 16 defencemen and 25 forwards. I'll use the same numbers and try to guess those spots, listing them in the order that they came to mind.

Goaltender:
Price
Luongo
Fleury
Ward
Smith

Forward:
Crosby
Stamkos
Tavares
Giroux
E. Staal
J. Staal
Bergeron
St. Louis
M. Richards
Nash
Neal
Eberle
Hall
Seguin
Kane
Skinner
Benn
Toews
Sharp
Spezza (if healthy)
Getzlaf
Perry
Thornton
Marleau
Iginla

Defence:
Weber
Doughty
Keith
Pietrangelo
Letang
Hamhuis
M. Staal
Girardi
Seabrook
Del Zotto
Vlasic
Coburn
Boyle
Bouwmeester
Phaneuf

There are tough omissions at every position. The forwards seem easiest to classify.

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02-15-2013, 02:53 PM
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Hamhuis would be more effective than Girardi, Staal, or Seabrook.

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02-15-2013, 06:24 PM
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It's always... interesting to see what happens when a thread gets moved into here.

Prior to the last Olympics, Canada invited 46 players to the summer camp. There were 5 goaltenders, 16 defencemen and 25 forwards. I'll use the same numbers and try to guess those spots, listing them in the order that they came to mind.

Goaltender:
Price
Luongo
Fleury
Ward
Smith

Forward:
Crosby
Stamkos
Tavares
Giroux
E. Staal
J. Staal
Bergeron
St. Louis
M. Richards
Nash
Neal
Eberle
Hall
Seguin
Kane
Skinner
Benn
Toews
Sharp
Spezza (if healthy)
Getzlaf
Perry
Thornton
Marleau
Iginla

Defence:
Weber
Doughty
Keith
Pietrangelo
Letang
Hamhuis
M. Staal
Girardi
Seabrook
Del Zotto
Vlasic
Coburn
Boyle
Bouwmeester
Phaneuf

There are tough omissions at every position. The forwards seem easiest to classify.
Only other names I can really think of are Couture, Perron, and RNH up front, and maybe Myers and Subban on D. Honestly if guys like Marleau, Phaneuf or Bouwmeester are clearly not good enough to crack the squad, I'd rather see one of the kids get the spot for the experience.

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