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View Poll Results: Rate Mark Streit's Play This Season
Norris Trophy Here I Come! 2 3.17%
Above Expectations 0 0%
At Expectations 18 28.57%
Below Expectations 37 58.73%
Piss Poor 6 9.52%
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02-15-2013, 06:08 PM
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Rate Mark Streit

I am pretty unhappy with our Captain. Between the lazy puck carrying, the hesitancy with passing vs shooting, his almost static point play lately, and complete lack of physical play in front of our net complete with his patented meaningless stick wave at any player more than 5 lbs heavier than himself I had been getting annoyed, but last game when he kept insisting on the long prayer pass through traffic that was picked off consistently only to be brought back on a scoring chance I reached my breaking point. On the PP he has his uses, though he is becoming more of a non factor as each game wears on. But 5 on 5 we would be better off with a traffic cone some games, IMO, and much of our negative GF vs GA owe to what he does not bring defensively. I almost ask what took so long to drop him to the third pair to send him a message, but it's Cappy so no surprise there.

Do you think he is playing at his assumed level, or has he underperformed in your eyes?

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02-15-2013, 06:58 PM
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Completely agree with you OP.

I voted 'Below Expectation' because I would put Mike Mottau/Bruno Gervais in the piss poor category.

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02-15-2013, 07:32 PM
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I can't vote yet. But underperforming. He can't run a PP. He can't play on the PK. And can't manage the damn puck.

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02-15-2013, 07:46 PM
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I wouldn't say piss poor, but yeah, definitely expected better all around play from a guy who is supposed to be our #1 defenseman and Captain.

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My expectations weren't that high heading into the season considering that he's been declining steadily, in my opinion. I'll say one thing... if you have to resign him, you do not want to do it for more than 1 year.

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For me he's at my expectations anyway. solid offensively, terrible defensively. I wasn't expecting much from him.

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02-15-2013, 08:51 PM
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at expectations, you cant really expect perfect mistake free hockey from him considering his style of play and he produces good things with his offensive rushes and is our defenseman who actually hits the net with quality shots from the point most often

in the end, what can expect from Streit, except he does seem to be lacking effort recently, probably due to the fact that he was burnt in the first games when he was playing every situation and that he isn't getting any younger either..

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02-15-2013, 09:39 PM
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Below expectations. He hasn't done enough offensively to make up for his poor defensive play. And his lasy play doesn't warrent the C on his shirt.

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The addition of Vis in the lineup has exposed Streit.

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The addition of Vis in the lineup has exposed Streit.
I must agree..what a difference seeing Vis handling the PP opposed to Streit. Even at even strength you see the subtleties of his play either jumping in or even on the D side of his game. Some of you might think this analogy might be nuts but Streit seems to remind me of MA Bergeron ..both very skilled offensively and PP qb's and kinda small ( MAB is 5'9 197 and Streit is 6" 205). Streit is obviously better on D though.

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02-16-2013, 12:48 AM
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what des everyone expect from a defenseman who was relegated t playing forward in Montreal, who had a career year on LI, who is playing on a team which does not hit {owner!} and has a feeble waiver wire defense and whose forwards are meager compared to the rest of the NHL, whose GM does not get needed help via trades and whose players when good are worn down with responsibility to compensate for the lacking on the roster?

Streit is good. We hoped for Norris and we might get it again, but the team as a whole dictates the play of the players all too much.

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what des everyone expect from a defenseman who was relegated t playing forward in Montreal, who had a career year on LI, who is playing on a team which does not hit {owner!} and has a feeble waiver wire defense and whose forwards are meager compared to the rest of the NHL, whose GM does not get needed help via trades and whose players when good are worn down with responsibility to compensate for the lacking on the roster?

Streit is good. We hoped for Norris and we might get it again, but the team as a whole dictates the play of the players all too much.
Can you honestly tell me that Vis with the same line up has not looked miles apart from Streit? I do understand that Vis has only played a few games but it's like night and day between him and Streit at the moment but that can be subjected to change.

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Underperfoming and prone to making mistakes in his own end. Really just a PP specialist at this point

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at expectations. He never was mistake free, he plays a risky game, that's why you should put him together with a good defensive D on a 2nd or 3rd line, but then on the 1st PP, he still has a lot of offensive Skill and a good Shot.

What I don't get, is why they still give him 25+ minutes sometimes close to 30 minutes, even with Vis in the Line-up now. At his Age I think that also affects his overall game.


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Ever since he injured his shoulder, and got the "C" he has been playing like garbage. Maybe he can't handle the pressure of being the Captain of a terrible team?

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what des everyone expect from a defenseman who was relegated t playing forward in Montreal, who had a career year on LI, who is playing on a team which does not hit {owner!} and has a feeble waiver wire defense and whose forwards are meager compared to the rest of the NHL, whose GM does not get needed help via trades and whose players when good are worn down with responsibility to compensate for the lacking on the roster?

Streit is good. We hoped for Norris and we might get it again, but the team as a whole dictates the play of the players all too much.
That's a lame excuse. A player of his calipar is supposed to help a struggling team not make it worse. Plus he's the Captain, you can't blame his poor play on the rest of the team. Vis has been far superior to Streit in all areas of the game.

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Can you honestly tell me that Vis with the same line up has not looked miles apart from Streit? I do understand that Vis has only played a few games but it's like night and day between him and Streit at the moment but that can be subjected to change.
Yeah, easily. I can also say the best guys this year were the newbies who hit it off, and they all blend with the lineup a few games in.

So Viz might look horrible in a game or two when he sinks to the team median level.

Also, Viz is a better offensive player and always was, FWIW....so not a fair comparison. Some guys can do it on their own (Grabner, Hamonic, JT to a degree}, some guys need the supporting crew {Moulson, AMac, Okposo}, so watch the team improve and several guys improve or watch the few either sink or swim that can go it alone.

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That's a lame excuse. A player of his calipar is supposed to help a struggling team not make it worse. Plus he's the Captain, you can't blame his poor play on the rest of the team. Vis has been far superior to Streit in all areas of the game.
sample size.....Viz played how many games?

and tell me you even read the post? He's playing at the level of a defenseman who another team bumped to forward. The Isles made him not only a defensive ace but captain. What other team would do such a thing? So a player of his caliber excels here just as the short guy is a basketball dynamo in a Pygmy colony.

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sample size.....Viz played how many games?

and tell me you even read the post? He's playing at the level of a defenseman who another team bumped to forward. The Isles made him not only a defensive ace but captain. What other team would do such a thing? So a player of his caliber excels here just as the short guy is a basketball dynamo in a Pygmy colony.
The sample size with the Islanders may be small but he's a Vet with a long track record. I don't see ANY reason to resign Streit even if we can't resign Vis. JT needs to be Captain of this team and I don't see Streit taking a demotion and pay cut which is what will have to happen next season. It's time to move on from Mark Streit and Ricky D if this team is going to move forward.

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The sample size with the Islanders may be small but he's a Vet with a long track record. I don't see ANY reason to resign Streit even if we can't resign Vis. JT needs to be Captain of this team and I don't see Streit taking a demotion and pay cut which is what will have to happen next season. It's time to move on from Mark Streit and Ricky D if this team is going to move forward.
Who are we getting to replace Streit? Who is better that will play here? This team's operations are cancerous. Even fans are embracing the operations actions as logical.

Streit on a good team would be a third pairing offensive weapon with decent defense AS IS......but on a good team would be playing better, so top four on that.

We can look at the PA Parenteau loss and think back to the debate over keeping him as well. Our team as a whole is responsible for the play of many on it.

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Piss poor, gave him a relief last year and his -27 because of the return from injury year. But no excuses now after playing on Bern during lockout. Already so many giveaways, and a -9 and was sinking the PP until Vis showed up to help. And all this while wearing the C.
Too slow to keep up, time to make a deal while he has some value to those not watching all our game tapes.

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Piss poor, gave him a relief last year and his -27 because of the return from injury year. But no excuses now after playing on Bern during lockout. Already so many giveaways, and a -9 and was sinking the PP until Vis showed up to help. And all this while wearing the C.
Too slow to keep up, time to make a deal while he has some value to those not watching all our game tapes.
Agree completely!

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He has been horrendous, and this is coming from a huge Streit fan. I don't know what has happened to this guy but everything about his play says "I don't care" which is really depressing coming from our captain. I get he isn't a physical player or energy player, but we all know that he can be a smart and tactile player which he hasn't been at ALL this season. His defense has been pretty atrocious and he hasn't been offensively good like he has been in the past. I hate how we give him the puck to carry up on our PP and he just takes his sweet ass time and makes the most predictable and slowest pass that is humanly possible so the other team can zero in on that guy ASAP. He also isn't shooting the puck enough with his slapshot like he did in the past on the PP. In the past, he also used to have success by jumping in on the play but that's not happening either.

Overall, it seems like a total lack of effort on his part. I don't think he is mentally focused or motivated and it's clear as day to me. We all know that Mark Streit can play better than this and that he is in pretty good shape, there is really no excuse for how our captain has been playing. I support him getting the "C" but now I want them to strip it from him and give it to JT, who has stepped up as this teams true leader with his on ice play.

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