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Pick the 6 Swedish D-men for Sochi 2014

View Poll Results: Pick 6-dmen for Sochi 2014 to represent a working squad
Enstrom 191 79.58%
Karlsson 234 97.50%
Kronwall 211 87.92%
Edler 217 90.42%
Hedman 204 85.00%
OEL 221 92.08%
Ericsson 6 2.50%
Hjalmarsson 31 12.92%
Gunnarsson 7 2.92%
Oduya 6 2.50%
Brodin 31 12.92%
Tallinder 3 1.25%
Grossman 8 3.33%
Larsson 53 22.08%
Erixon 4 1.67%
Stralman 2 0.83%
Murray 7 2.92%
Rundblad 2 0.83%
Lilja 1 0.42%
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02-16-2013, 03:00 PM
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Pick the 6 Swedish D-men for Sochi 2014

There have been some discussions about the surge of promising Swedish D-men around here lately. I thought it could be fun to let you play GM and pick 6 Swedish NHL D-men for Sochi.

Think a real set of D-men, that is a balanced squad rather than just the highest points from NHL.com

Feel free to post some rationale for your choice of squad.

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02-16-2013, 03:01 PM
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Kronwall - Kronwall
Kronwall - Kronwall
Kronwall - Kronwall

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Kronwall - Kronwall
Kronwall - Kronwall
Kronwall - Kronwall
yeah... I didn't really make the poll that way...

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Kronwall-Karlsson
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Any Swedes care to weight in on any possible non-NHL players? It seems there's usually a couple from the Swedish elite league chosen as well. Otherwise I think the first six on the list stand out above the rest.

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02-16-2013, 03:44 PM
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Went with the first 6 choices, but there are a few guys who could be knocking on their door (Hjalmarsson, Gunnarsson, Larsson, Brodin). If a guy like Hedman or Kronwall has a poor start to the season I wouldn't be shocked if one of those other guys made it.

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I voted Larsson over Edler because I'd like to see Adam and Victor as Team Sweden's shutdown pair. Just a personal preference.

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02-16-2013, 03:59 PM
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The first 6 AINEC, barring injuries or crazy break-out seasons.

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My concern is that the squad might end up with all to many big framed offensive D-men.

Picking "the best" might be a bad choice (insert Canada 2006), what if the opposition comes up with a speedy combination which leaves the D flat-footed? Sure it might be nice for Sweden to have a lot of big guys just to show these hard nosed North Americans that Sweden ain't soft, but that is no good basis to build a team on.

Karlsson is a good antidote for this, as he is good on the defensive. But Sweden do not have to nor should lean so heavily on him as the Sens as there is other options. Karlsson should play an offensive role and leave the defence to others, but who.

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My concern is that the squad might end up with all to many big framed offensive D-men.

Picking "the best" might be a bad choice
(insert Canada 2006), what if the opposition comes up with a speedy combination which leaves the D flat-footed? Sure it might be nice for Sweden to have a lot of big guys just to show these hard nosed North Americans that Sweden ain't soft, but that is no good basis to build a team on.

Karlsson is a good antidote for this, as he is good on the defensive. But Sweden do not have to nor should lean so heavily on him as the Sens as there is other options. Karlsson should play an offensive role and leave the defence to others, but who.
Spot on.

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Any Swedes care to weight in on any possible non-NHL players? It seems there's usually a couple from the Swedish elite league chosen as well. Otherwise I think the first six on the list stand out above the rest.
Usually Sweden have had a mix of SEL guys, but I think there might have been a paradigm shift in two ways here (structural and actor wise) away from SEL-dependence.

First (actor), the Swedish management is more NHL friendly now than it has been under especially BÅ Gustavsson. Secondly (structure), there is a lot more young Swedish players in AHL/NHL now than it has been so those one would have picked from Sweden in the past are already in America now.

But to just mention one guy I could see Oscar Klefbom being an alternative (there are others around here who knows this better than me). Rather fast but still not small, used to international rink, puts up points without being a defensive liability.


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Karlsson should play an offensive role and leave the defence to others, but who.
No... Karlsson should play the game he's used to, otherwise it might not work at all. He and OEL are the two most all-round d-men we have.
And regarding the two merely defense minded d-men you're asking for... If i have to take a glance one year forward would then be: Hedman & Edler - And then we also have; Brodin (so smooth, Lidström-esque in his maner)

So:
Hedman - Karlsson
Edler - OEL
Brodin - Enström

But If Larsson take another step he might be in the race.
And we still have Hjalmarsson (not that physical though) & Kronwall

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Wow, Sweden has some nice depth! When I saw the thread title I was anxious to vote for a couple Blackhawks, but I really couldn't justify that. Obviously Karlsson's full recovery is very important...

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Wow, Sweden has some nice depth! When I saw the thread title I was anxious to vote for a couple Blackhawks, but I really couldn't justify that. Obviously Karlsson's full recovery is very important...
Karlsson will be huge for this defense. Barring a major breakout, he will be the only "superstar" on the backend although he will be surrounded with many great players.

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I don't know whether it's been done already but this thread made me think about another poll, maybe interesting.


Russia Forwards + Swedish defence

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USA forwards + Canada defence


But I won't do it personally, besides Russia, I wouldn't make good line-ups....

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Top 6. I'd take hjalmarsson as a 7th (if possible) to add some solidity to the defensive aspect

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I don't know whether it's been done already but this thread made me think about another poll, maybe interesting.


Russia Forwards + Swedish defence

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USA forwards + Canada defence


But I won't do it personally, besides Russia, I wouldn't make good line-ups....
I like the idea, there have been Canada and US Olympic rosters done not that long ago.

the American one- http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1019399

and the Canadian one- http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1203131m

if you just take one of these you should be good to go, there isn't a roster that will satisfy everyone/

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No... Karlsson should play the game he's used to, otherwise it might not work at all. He and OEL are the two most all-round d-men we have.
And regarding the two merely defense minded d-men you're asking for... If i have to take a glance one year forward would then be: Hedman & Edler - And then we also have; Brodin (so smooth, Lidström-esque in his maner)

So:
Hedman - Karlsson
Edler - OEL
Brodin - Enström

But If Larsson take another step he might be in the race.
And we still have Hjalmarsson (not that physical though) & Kronwall
How times have changed!

Seriously though, Karlsson and OEL will be destructive. Sweden's D should be the most lethal and well-rounded.

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Wow Sweden has some great talent on the back end. The top 6 out of these options are pretty clear IMO, but who do you guys like for #7? I'd be hard pressed to choose between Hjalmarsson, Gunnarsson, and Larsson -- all great players.

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My concern is that the squad might end up with all to many big framed offensive D-men.

Picking "the best" might be a bad choice (insert Canada 2006), what if the opposition comes up with a speedy combination which leaves the D flat-footed?
Yeah this is why I think guys like Hjalmarsson or Gunnarsson might stand a chance. They might not be the sexy pick but for tournaments like this it can pay off to bring a few defensive defensemen who just make smart plays and play defense without being noticed much

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Kronwall-Karlsson
OEL-Edler
Hedmen-Enstrom
This is my top 6 as well but accidently took Hjalmarsson instead of Edler but he will make the squad as a 7th guy IMO. Brodin could be a darkhorse as well.

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Total homer and I know Brodin wouldn't have sniffed the ice had Sweden had everyone available for Worlds last time around, but he did seem to surprise a lot of people (and teammates) with how well he performed. Watching him with MN he's no offensive dynamo but his defense and ability to move the puck is phenomenal. The offense is there too when he's given the chance--his shot is much better than i expected. A year of maturation in the NHL and he could push for that #7 spot.

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Total homer and I know Brodin wouldn't have sniffed the ice had Sweden had everyone available for Worlds last time around, but he did seem to surprise a lot of people (and teammates) with how well he performed. Watching him with MN he's no offensive dynamo but his defense and ability to move the puck is phenomenal. The offense is there too when he's given the chance--his shot is much better than i expected. A year of maturation in the NHL and he could push for that #7 spot.
I believe that Brodin will be something special as well, but I don't know if he'll prove to be Olympic quality in time

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No... Karlsson should play the game he's used to, otherwise it might not work at all. He and OEL are the two most all-round d-men we have.
And regarding the two merely defense minded d-men you're asking for... If i have to take a glance one year forward would then be: Hedman & Edler - And then we also have; Brodin (so smooth, Lidström-esque in his maner)

So:
Hedman - Karlsson
Edler - OEL
Brodin - Enström

But If Larsson take another step he might be in the race.
And we still have Hjalmarsson (not that physical though) & Kronwall
Edler is not the droid you are looking for when it comes to defensive minded D-man. He is a big offensive minded PP guy who can defend but is inconsistent at times on the defence (probably a symptom of the combination un-stellar skating and size). He needs to be paired with someone who is reliable (e.g. Hjalmarsson), or at least a good skater (e.g. Karlsson). Further, Edler is to productive to be left out of the squad imho, if some producing D-man needs to go it should be one who produces less.

One way to do it (with my choice of players):
PP Edler - Karlsson
PK Hedman - OEL

Edler (L) - Karlsson (R) (probably logging +25 min. w. PP)
OEL (L) - Larsson (R)
Hedman (L) - Brodin (L) (Brodin get few minutes no PP/PK)

One +200 pound guy on each pairing, a faster guy on the other side and ok with the L/R handness.

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