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IF you had to trade one, who would it be?

View Poll Results: If you had to trade one, who would it be?
Eller 26 11.02%
Desharnais 210 88.98%
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02-17-2013, 03:07 PM
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If anything, I think the criticism of DD (amongst honest users -- and they're not all honest... but most are) stems from the fact that DD isn't criticized enough in other (read, French) media. And that Eller was criticized (with cause, I might add) at the beginning of the season.

Lack of criticism of Desharnais, mixed with criticism of Eller, brought the current situation.

If anything, DD being French is (IMO) a factor. Albeit a very indirect one... amongst honest users at the very least.
I agree completely, unfortunately the politics do play a part and the bias that pumps him up by elements of the French media has lead to an overreaction backlash from others.

Right now he's the only Quebecois player on the first team. We can't pretend that's not a factor for how people judge him, but this thread is starting to get off topic and posters are getting offended. Desharnais is not on this team because of his nationality or his first language. It might be a factor in his future with his team, but try to focus on his strengths and weaknesses as a player, because there are plenty.

Eller being misused or not doesn't depend on Desharnais.

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I agree completely, unfortunately the politics do play a part and the bias that pumps him up by elements of the French media has lead to an overreaction backlash from others.

Right now he's the only Quebecois player on the first team. We can't pretend that's not a factor for how people judge him, but this thread is starting to get off topic and posters are getting offended. Desharnais is not on this team because of his nationality or his first language. It might be a factor in his future with his team, but try to focus on his strengths and weaknesses as a player, because there are plenty.

Eller being misused or not doesn't depend on Desharnais.
Well, Bouillon has to be considered Québecois... IMO.

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Well, Bouillon has to be considered Québecois... IMO.
I consider him Quebecois, some do not though, plus he's only going to be on this team for another year at best.

But then again both the Cube and DD have another reason that give them enemies...their size.

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I consider him Quebecois, some do not though, plus he's only going to be on this team for another year at best.

But then again both the Cube and DD have another reason that give them enemies...their size.
That'S the thing.

If size is a problem for DD and Cube, then it is for Gallagher and Gionta. Even more for the latter, considering he's getting older AND getting slower AND that he's a much "bigger" problem for the cap?

I mean, this board is the only place where moving the younger, local, cheaper player would be considered before than moving the older and more expensive?

Forget about capitaincy --- Gorges is the next capitain.

Another annoying point : Eller should be moved to center, because DD sucks at faceoffs.

Well, considering their stats... if one sucks, the other sucks as well.

The above is a prime example of "dishonest" posters.

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That'S the thing.

If size is a problem for DD and Cube, the size concerns always revolve around them, and not always around Gallagher and Gionta? Even more for the latter, considering he's getting older AND slower AND that he's a much "bigger" problem for the cap?
Well Gionta has plenty of haters himself, Gallagher is still shiny and new, give it time. According to some people 5'11" Plekanec is too small for the NHL after all. The biggest issue with Desharnais is that most players his size are either built like tanks or have ridiculous speed. Gionta in his prime was quicker and stronger than DD, at this point less so but he still is harder to push around. Desharnais has an average build, and it has definitely effected his ability to have a well rounded game. Height by itself is overrated but Desharnias plays like his height - he's fearless and gets back up immediately sure but he does get knocked around out there. Gallagher already seems stronger out there.

Also Gionta would be harder to move.

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That'S the thing.

If size is a problem for DD and Cube, then it is for Gallagher and Gionta. Even more for the latter, considering he's getting older AND getting slower AND that he's a much "bigger" problem for the cap?

I mean, this board is the only place where moving the younger, local, cheaper player would be considered before than moving the older and more expensive?

Forget about capitaincy --- Gorges is the next capitain.

Another annoying point : Eller should be moved to center, because DD sucks at faceoffs.

Well, considering their stats... if one sucks, the other sucks as well.

The above is a prime example of "dishonest" posters.
size isnt really a problem for Cube, being 37 is.

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