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02-13-2013, 08:37 AM
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I would do something like that. Would Jones be available? Or Pekham?
I'd prefer to keep Jones on the oilers, but Peckham would certainly be available, in my opinion.

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02-13-2013, 08:47 AM
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If the Rangers can move Boyle , Eminger, picks in a package for a UFA like Antropov and a Dman like Potsma then you do it.

Basically I would want a depth F that can help this yr(Antropov) and a Dman for next yr to round out the top 6. Needs to be under 2 million bucks per yr as the Rangers need the cash to spend on RFA's next yr

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From the oil I'd trade any of our bottom six payers, a mid prospect (pitlick/marincin), and one of our two third rounders this year.
If you're saying Hartikainen, Pitlick, and a 3rd, I take it and run!

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Who do people think has more value Stoll or Boyle.
I liked Boyle when he use to be a prospect with the kings and would love t ohave him back so I think my heart is in the way and it is likely that Stoll > Boyle.
2 years ago the clear winner is Stoll 100% and it's not even close. Since then however, the stock of both have gone in opposite directions. With contract, age, and size in his favor, I'd have to say Boyle. Even though recently the coach has sat him to get a look at some new players and in favor of some kids who have been playing OUTSTANDINGLY! Torts has publicly said that Boyle will get a chance to play. A team with high expectations needed some changes and a bottom 6 guy like Boyle is going to be the likely casualty.

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I'd hate to see it but that looks like a good fit
indeed. With Boyle such a great team guy, if you move him, as a fan you'd almost want to see him get a chance to play at home. But it's a business and the Rangers are in direct competition with the Bruins as a top team in the East. Boyle is about as likely to be dealt to the Bruins as Kreider. Maybe lets start with Ferriero, if Boston will take him.

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02-13-2013, 10:50 AM
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Boyle was worth about a 3rd rounder when Sather acquired him. He's grown tremendously since. 32 goals the past two seasons. Defensive specialist. Terrific team guy.

He's not being pawned off for scraps. He's one of the better bottom-line players in the league who's in Torts's doghouse right now. Doesn't mean Sather's going to move him for less than market value.
This, and I believe he was orig 1st rounder, now living up to late first value.

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02-13-2013, 10:58 AM
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Boyle was worth about a 3rd rounder when Sather acquired him. He's grown tremendously since. 32 goals the past two seasons. Defensive specialist. Terrific team guy.

He's not being pawned off for scraps. He's one of the better bottom-line players in the league who's in Torts's doghouse right now. Doesn't mean Sather's going to move him for less than market value.
If NYR feels Miller is ready to be a third line center, maybe Boyle gets dealt?. Halpern has been very effectice in that 4th line/penalty kill role and he is a better face off man.

It's a deep draft. I think the Rangers would take a low 1st or high 2nd if it was offered? It would not happen until the deadline though. By then we'll know what their plans for Miller are.

Anything lower than a 2nd and I'd hold on to him.

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02-13-2013, 11:02 AM
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Id like to see him in Pitt but i doubt NYR trades him there.

What happened to this guy, he was great last year, def a guy i hated to see the pens play against

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I'd look at a deal for Boyle like Ballard + low pick or B prospect and a third or Higgins and Alberts something like that I don't think his value is any higher

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Two weeks ago everyone was freaking out over the lack of forward depth. Suddenly you win a few games, a 19 year old rookie has a couple good performances and tragedy is avoided and one of the team's most influential bottom-six forwards of the last few years is on the trade block. Then, if Sather traded Boyle and a forward got injured everyone would get pissed off once again at watching Kris Newbury or Stu Bickel. It is utterly amazing to me how people can function like this.


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Rangers fans are absolutely mental. Two weeks ago everyone was freaking out over the lack of forward depth. Suddenly you win a few games, a 19 year old rookie has a couple good performances and tragedy is avoided and one of the team's most influential bottom-six forwards of the last few years is on the trade block. Then, if Sather traded Boyle and a forward got injured everyone would get pissed off once again at watching Kris Newbury or Stu Bickel. It is utterly amazing to me how people can function like this.
This guy gets it .

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02-13-2013, 11:54 AM
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If NYR feels Miller is ready to be a third line center, maybe Boyle gets dealt?. Halpern has been very effectice in that 4th line/penalty kill role and he is a better face off man.
I don't think Miller has made Boyle expendible, yet.

We're gearing up for a playoff run. Look at the impact BB had last year in Ottawa. He won't be moved this season, imo.

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Boyle won't be traded unless its for an upgrade in the bottom-6. They'll need the depth there. I don't think the scratching was just solely his poor play either. Tortarella has been juggling people in and out of the bottom-6 to get effective lines going down there. Not saying Boyle was playing well, but Ferreiro wasn't playing bad and he isn't in the lineup anymore either.

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Boyle won't be traded unless its for an upgrade in the bottom-6. They'll need the depth there. I don't think the scratching was just solely his poor play either. Tortarella has been juggling people in and out of the bottom-6 to get effective lines going down there. Not saying Boyle was playing well, but Ferreiro wasn't playing bad and he isn't in the lineup anymore either.
Ferreiro looked good, actually. Or at least better than I expected.

Boyle's benching wasn't all about Boyle, imo. He needed to light a fire under the teams ass, and considering the viable candidates, Boyle made the most sense. Not saying Boyle was exceeding expectations, because we all witnessed he wasn't playing as well as he had in the past.

Still, a guy like Boyle is extremely valuable for our cup run. Big body, excellent defensively. Does Boston score 2 on us last night when Boyle's on the ice? Maybe - Maybe not, but I'd rather have him on the ice during those moments than Stepan, Richards, Halpern, or Miller.

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Fwiw, our own fan base highly underrates Boyle and would prob give him up for a mediocre prospect or 4th rd pick smfh

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Fwiw, our own fan base highly underrates Boyle and would prob give him up for a mediocre prospect or 4th rd pick smfh
Lol I swore I just read a page and a half of Ranger fans saying it will be a high draft pick.

How about Chimera from the caps strait up?

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Fwiw, our own fan base highly underrates Boyle and would prob give him up for a mediocre prospect or 4th rd pick smfh
Only way I'd trade him is for a clear cut upgrade...

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If NYR feels Miller is ready to be a third line center, maybe Boyle gets dealt?. Halpern has been very effectice in that 4th line/penalty kill role and he is a better face off man.

It's a deep draft. I think the Rangers would take a low 1st or high 2nd if it was offered? It would not happen until the deadline though. By then we'll know what their plans for Miller are.

Anything lower than a 2nd and I'd hold on to him.
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I don't think Miller has made Boyle expendible, yet.

We're gearing up for a playoff run. Look at the impact BB had last year in Ottawa. He won't be moved this season, imo.
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Boyle won't be traded unless its for an upgrade in the bottom-6. They'll need the depth there. I don't think the scratching was just solely his poor play either. Tortarella has been juggling people in and out of the bottom-6 to get effective lines going down there. Not saying Boyle was playing well, but Ferreiro wasn't playing bad and he isn't in the lineup anymore either.
Couldn't agree more with all three of you. Boyle is definitely worth a late 1st or early 2nd, but if the value is not there at the deadline he will stick with the team (obviously). They're not going to move him for the sake of moving him. However, when the draft comes near he will be asked about.

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From the oil I'd trade any of our bottom six payers, a mid prospect (pitlick/marincin), and one of our two third rounders this year.
You'd certainly have my attention. Who would the bottom 6 player be?

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Luke Adam + 6th

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How about McNabb?

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What would Brian Boyle be worth to any team looking for a 3rd/4th line center PK specialist who can score once in a while if the bolts in his neck are tightened properly.

What else would the NYR include to get ROR from Colorodo?
Habs offer Desharnais for Boyle?

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From the oil I'd trade any of our bottom six payers, a mid prospect (pitlick/marincin), and one of our two third rounders this year.
We do not have a 3rd rd pick this year we traded it to Dallas . We do have 2 second rd picks

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If you're saying Hartikainen, Pitlick, and a 3rd, I take it and run!


2 years ago the clear winner is Stoll 100% and it's not even close. Since then however, the stock of both have gone in opposite directions. With contract, age, and size in his favor, I'd have to say Boyle. Even though recently the coach has sat him to get a look at some new players and in favor of some kids who have been playing OUTSTANDINGLY! Torts has publicly said that Boyle will get a chance to play. A team with high expectations needed some changes and a bottom 6 guy like Boyle is going to be the likely casualty.


indeed. With Boyle such a great team guy, if you move him, as a fan you'd almost want to see him get a chance to play at home. But it's a business and the Rangers are in direct competition with the Bruins as a top team in the East. Boyle is about as likely to be dealt to the Bruins as Kreider. Maybe lets start with Ferriero, if Boston will take him.
As an Oiler fan . You are not getting Hartikainen . Plus we do not have a 3rd pick this year

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I'd prefer to keep Jones on the oilers, but Peckham would certainly be available, in my opinion.
I do not think Jones will be back . From what i been reading they are going to go with PRV and Hartikainen
Would Eric Belanger plus a 4th rd pick work


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Higgins and a 3rd

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Higgins and a 3rd
Noo thanks...

I was gonna come in and suggest something like

Vancouver
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