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Ballard is finally playing like the Ballard we traded for, and Tanev is just calm cool, no panic, all reliability.
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Originally Posted by Que
Tanev better than Gunnarsson? I'm out of here.
Not definitively, but Tanev has been playing great this year, probably just as good if not better than Gunnarsson.
Tanev is always going to be underrated cause there is no flash. But just does everything right and is like 99.9% error free. He just plays a simple game and flys under the radar, but he has been playing like a top 4 Dman for the last 2 years.
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Originally Posted by No Team Needed
I love how the explanation of the trade from those who support it is, "GMs have made dumb trade deadline moves so this should be a good trade!"
I'm amazed I haven't heard, "San Jose traded a first and Josh Gorges for Craig Rivet. Edmonton should be adding more!"
Gunnarsson's a legitimate top 4 guy, and might be worth a first to a team in a situation like Detroit's, where they could benefit from a stabilizing presence on the backend, but to a rebuilding team like Edmonton? Lol no. Sorry OP. I don't even think this would work in NHL 13.
When your talking about a first round pick, that has potential to be top 10 in a draft this deep, Carl Gunnarson doesnt fit the bill... OEL, Seabrook, Staal, Kronwall are all good options for a top 10 First rounder...Since Pheonix, Chicago, NYR, and Detroit Dont look to be rebuilding anytime soon this wont happen..
Also I dont see gunner even making his way back into a physical leafs line up anytime soon either...
Frazer and franson are playing solid together, and everyone else is supporting the goaltenders very well.
Ballard is finally playing like the Ballard we traded for, and Tanev is just calm cool, no panic, all reliability.
Not definitively, but Tanev has been playing great this year, probably just as good if not better than Gunnarsson.
Tanev is always going to be underrated cause there is no flash. But just does everything right and is like 99.9% error free. He just plays a simple game and flys under the radar, but he has been playing like a top 4 Dman for the last 2 years.
Yeah. I hate when people use the Gaustad one.
Great job describing Gunnarson Gunnarson would be the 4th/5th Dman on Vancouver... saying he wouldn't make the line-up (i.e. being the 7th Dman) is unrealistic.
Also, is there anyway we could add to Gunnarson to get a first from Edmonton (or anybody)?
Gunnarsson is a second pair defenseman on a decent team. That's not worth a first unless its a late first at the draft, not what is currently a mid first, with the potential of being a high first. I would do a 2nd at most from the Oilers. Our first would need to bring back a Keith Yandle type player, and Gunnar isn't nearly that good, despite his good play.
Great job describing Gunnarson Gunnarson would be the 4th/5th Dman on Vancouver... saying he wouldn't make the line-up (i.e. being the 7th Dman) is unrealistic.
Also, is there anyway we could add to Gunnarson to get a first from Edmonton (or anybody)?
Great job describing Gunnarson Gunnarson would be the 4th/5th Dman on Vancouver... saying he wouldn't make the line-up (i.e. being the 7th Dman) is unrealistic.
Also, is there anyway we could add to Gunnarson to get a first from Edmonton (or anybody)?
He would be 6th behind Ballard.
I understand Gunnarsson is much of the same. But Tanev and Ballard have great chemistry which makes them both better, plus we are already short on RH guys who can play the right side, adding Gunnarsson doesn't help that.
Gunnarsson is likely the better allround player, but with the way our defense is aligned it makes it tough to slot him in.
Yes he is totally worth a 1st this year in a year everyone is looking for good D...
My point with Oilers is you NEED D help all of your writers and your play screams it..
I dont think he is worth a top 10 NO ....But i don't think Edmonton is drafting top 10..
Plus if you got him it makes your team better immediately thus making the 1st even less likely to top 10...
Gunnarsson is worth a 1st thats 15 to 30th...His contract is great and he is a solid player..fits your team..
Yes, we need defense. But, we need either a #1 defenseman, or a bottom pair defensemen so we don't have to play Potter or Whitney. As of right now, the Oilers have:
Schultz-Schultz (Justin is legitimate top pair, Nick should be playing down in the lineup, although he is doing well.
Smid-Petry (Good second pair, no need to tinker)
Fistric-Potter/Whitney (Fistric has been great, Potter and Whitney need an upgrade, or a turnaround in Whitney's case)
Gunnar doesn't fit, at least not at a price that the Oilers should be willing to pay for the type of d-man they need.
Yes he is totally worth a 1st this year in a year everyone is looking for good D...
My point with Oilers is you NEED D help all of your writers and your play screams it..
I dont think he is worth a top 10 NO ....But i don't think Edmonton is drafting top 10..
Plus if you got him it makes your team better immediately thus making the 1st even less likely to top 10...
Gunnarsson is worth a 1st thats 15 to 30th...His contract is great and he is a solid player..fits your team..
If your trying to convince us it's not working, you're not getting our 1st for Gunnarson , we are still in the midst of a rebuild and it's not for sale. We are a young team in a shortened season, we are capable of going ice cold or going on a hot streak there is no telling where our pick will be this year, it's not a wise gamble.
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Gunnarsson fits a skating team thats not physical like Edmonton.
We are trying to get tougher to play against, the 1st part of the rebuild was getting the necessary skill for the core of our roster. In the next couple of years we will need to fill out the rest of our roster with players who support our core and that will include more grit and size in our line-up. If Gunnarsson wouldn't be contributing to that I don't see the point of trying to acquire him would be. We're not ready to make big moves like this we should be pursuing small cheap tweaks to our roster and the odd reclamation project.
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Yes he is totally worth a 1st this year in a year everyone is looking for good D...
My point with Oilers is you NEED D help all of your writers and your play screams it..
I dont think he is worth a top 10 NO ....But i don't think Edmonton is drafting top 10..
Plus if you got him it makes your team better immediately thus making the 1st even less likely to top 10...
Gunnarsson is worth a 1st thats 15 to 30th...His contract is great and he is a solid player..fits your team..
So is every single poster outside of you wrong then? Almost everybody agrees Gunnar is worth a 1st just more from a contending team than Edmonton. We would rather run witha combination of home grown, more proven D, and D with higher potential. What you continually ignore is Edmonton is in the final years of it's rebuild and it's 1st is simply too valuable to trade for a D that doesn't push us over the top.
There's no reason for Edmonton to make a knee-jerk trade like this when the position of our 1st is very much in question. It makes sense for Gunnar to be the trade bait in Toronto, but look to a contending team not one like Edmonton.
I agreed that Edmonton wouldn't do this. I was simply explaining why Toronto fans might want to trade a great defenseman in Gunnarsson.
Gunnarson would be the 4th/5th Dman on Vancouver... saying he wouldn't make the line-up (i.e. being the 7th Dman) is unrealistic.
