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Eller + 2013 1st + 2013 2nd(Calgary's) + 2013 2nd(Montreal's)

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02-18-2013, 08:08 AM
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Eller + 2013 1st + 2013 2nd(Calgary's) + 2013 2nd(Montreal's)

With the way things are going, it seems like Montreal may pick in the bottom 10-15 come the 2013 draft. You all probably know it is considered one of the deepest draft in the last few years. The top 10 is apparently loaded with talent.

Just looking for people's opinions on that one. I'm not comfortable with trading Eller as he is the biggest center Montreal's got and is playing a nice defensive game right now. Wondering though, how would he and 3 top 60 picks would be worth in a draft? It's likely a terrible idea as it would cripple Montreal's prospect's pool too much but I'm curious what people think it would fetch in the 2013 draft.

A top 5?

A top 10?

Top 10 + mid-level prospect?

None of those?

What do you think your team or you as an individual would be willing to give up?

Edit: What Montreal needs; A big defenseman capable of clearing the front of the net. A center with size and decent playmaking capabilities. A winger with size who can score goals. If a good/serviceable bottom 6 player could be added on top of one of the primary needs, it'd be good.


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02-18-2013, 08:19 AM
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The Habs are doing well but IMO you guys are still rebuilding and should not be looking to move a guy like Eller and those high picks

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02-18-2013, 08:20 AM
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The Habs are doing well but IMO you guys are still rebuilding and should not be looking to move a guy like Eller and those high picks
I know they shouldn't but I'm wondering what kind of return that offer would commend.


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MtlShadow: With Timmins as our main drafter, I don't see why we shouldn't try to convert these picks into something solid. It's always possible to pick up generational talent, if you develop well. Something I suspect we got much better at recently.

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I don't really see anyone moving into the top 6 picks barring some serious overpayment. Also don't see why Montreal would want to considering their center depth, and there's no way that package gets you into the top 2, which is where the only non-center will go.


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maybe its enough to land Luongo

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The Habs are doing well but IMO you guys are still rebuilding and should not be looking to move a guy like Eller and those high picks
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MtlShadow: With Timmins as our main drafter, I don't see why we shouldn't try to convert these picks into something solid. It's always possible to pick up generational talent, if you develop well. Something I suspect we got much better at recently.
I was thinking that as well. Timmins could hit some homeruns with 3 picks in the top 60 but some of the prospects in that draft are, from what I hear, really impressive. Course it could be 1999 all over again and next to none may pan out but scouting has gotten much better in the last few years. I'm not saying Montreal should make that trade, just wanna know what people think it would get as a return.

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maybe its enough to land Luongo

Why would the habs want Luongo when they have a better goalie already?

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Why would the habs want Luongo when they have a better goalie already?
Already I'm not sure but eventually yes I agree. The Habs would be dumb to trade for Luongo

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I was thinking that as well. Timmins could hit some homeruns with 3 picks in the top 60 but some of the prospects in that draft are, from what I hear, really impressive. Course it could be 1999 all over again and next to none may pan out but scouting has gotten much better in the last few years. I'm not saying Montreal should make that trade, just wanna know what people think it would get as a return.
The initial prospect status might be impressive, but you and I know very well that this is only but a projection. There is a lot of possibilities these projections might be wrong, even for players in the top 10.

Unless Timmins is really, really, REALLY high on a top-10 players, I'd say let him do his job and acquire ever more picks by trading Kaberle, Weber & others

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Why would the habs want Luongo when they have a better goalie already?
My uncle told me teams have never enough deep between the pipe.

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My uncle told me teams have never enough deep between the pipe.
Luongo would never accept a trade to Montreal so he can sit and watch Price play 80% of the games.

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Luongo would never accept a trade to Montreal so he can sit and watch Price play 80% of the games.
you underestimate Luongo.

He would try to push himself to outplay Price and become our starter.

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you underestimate Luongo.

He would try to push himself to outplay Price and become our starter.

You underestimate Price

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you underestimate Luongo.

He would try to push himself to outplay Price and become our starter.
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You underestimate Price
Both could be the starter on any given night. Luongo has proven more so I wouldn't write him off so easily.

Can we get back to the thread please? Still haven't got a decent return proposal yet.

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We aren't trading picks right now, end of story

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We aren't trading picks right now, end of story
Thank you for your completely useless reply. You can go now.

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what about getting Halak back?

Many people think St-Louis robbed us on this one.

I remember an Hockeybuzz blogger was talking about one of the most lopsided deal of the past decade...

So we should want to take it back.


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what about getting Halak back?

Many people think St-Louis robbed us on this one.
So he can start battling Price for the starter role and we get a 2nd chapter of the goalie controversy? No thanks.

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Thank you for your completely useless reply. You can go now.
Maybe a team deep in defencemen like Winnipeg would give you Seth Jones if they were sitting on him.

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You underestimate Price
That guy hates price It's why you should make him "invisible"

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That guy hates price It's why you should make him "invisible"
i have absolutely no hate for Price.

even if you said it again and again, you cant make me a Price hater just by saying it.

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I would think Eller + the 3 picks in the top 60 could get you into the top 10 (especially to a team that is starting to rebuild or get younger), but in this draft maybe not into the top 5. JMHO

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i have absolutely no hate for Price.

even if you said it again and again, you cant make me a Price hater just by saying it.
For a guy who doesn't hate Price you sure want him off the Habs in almost every thread you join.

Do you know which goalie leads the league in the last 3 years for save percentage in even strength situations? Figure it out. That is the goalie we need in nets. Just a hint: Luongo is not that goalie, as good as he is.

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i have absolutely no hate for Price.

even if you said it again and again, you cant make me a Price hater just by saying it.

You dont have to hate him to want him gone. You have repeatedly posted trades with him involved or offered him up in other trade ideas. Your thoughts are well known to hab fans.

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