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02-18-2013, 11:40 PM
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But that's not how you should look at it. From 2010-2012, Palushaj did deserve to be an NHL'er. He had the stats to deserve it. But we were extremely bad last year, yet you think that while being bad, you do give a guy like that all the chances in the world to shine. And if he did....he's in the picture no matter how Gallagher and Galchenyuk do. I mean, Gallagher wasn't exactly lights out at camp. So you might have Galchy, but strong possibility Gallagher goes down....or if you have confidence in Aaron you move somebody else whatever. So you don't look at it by saying that with both Gallys there's no place...You have to look at it with the idea that with proper icetime and linemates, he'd already be part of this team and wouldn't be a player with a spot to reconsider.

Again, we do say the same thing with Eller. Luckily enough, we will never lose Eller on the waivers for nothing. But the point is still there...when you have a talent, you HAVE to experiment them in a way that you know exactly what you have. And in the case of Palushaj, he should have gotten the chance based on the team he was playing on 'cause as far as I'm concerned...we just as bad as the Avs are this year....if not worst.
I wrote in my second line that Palushaj would had been with the Habs if the season would had started last October. The two Gallys were not ready back then. Cole and Gionta had and still have the first two rw spots. But I don't know how good or productive hevwould had been on a third line with Eller and Prust.

As for last year, let's just forget about it.

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02-18-2013, 11:47 PM
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Happy for Palushaj. People wrote off that trade way too soon. Palushaj, while a different player than D'agostini will end up having a similar role in the NHL as depth scoring. Never understood why people wrote off the trade when it happened.

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02-18-2013, 11:50 PM
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Happy for Palushaj. People wrote off that trade way too soon. Palushaj, while a different player than D'agostini will end up having a similar role in the NHL as depth scoring. Never understood why people wrote off the trade when it happened.
As soon as Landeskog will be back from his injury, Palushaj will be send down to a lower line.

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02-18-2013, 11:57 PM
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As soon as Landeskog will be back from his injury, Palushaj will be send down to a lower line.
Sure, but that wasn't what I was saying. In the end we got a player who will end up in a similar role as D'agostini in the nhl. A player who will bounce around the lineup when injuries happen and who will never be good enough to be in the top 6.

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02-19-2013, 12:11 AM
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The people who are crying about Palushaj are the same people who were crying about D'Agostini.

Let it go. Palushaj wasn't good enough to play for us and struggled in the AHL. He wouldn't have made the lineup over Gallagher.

And D'agostini was good in his first season in St Louis but now he's a healthy scratch.
Only the future will tell.

Okay I agree his goal was tremendously ridiculous, but he might turn out to be a good 3rd liner.

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02-19-2013, 12:43 AM
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Only the future will tell.

Okay I agree his goal was tremendously ridiculous, but he might turn out to be a good 3rd liner.
A (good) third liner is not very hard to find in this league. Any top line player in the farm team could be a decent third liner in the NHL.

I won't lose any sleep or say MB made a big mistake because we let go of a potential good 3rd liner.

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02-19-2013, 02:20 AM
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Happy for Paloosh, but not upset in the least that he's elsewhere. He got many many chances and with decent players several times. Didn't look terrible, but he wasn't the solution for our organization. Let's see where he is at the end of the season before drawing any conclusions. (And even then, there are so many factors that determine whether a player succeeds.)

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02-19-2013, 02:46 AM
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One freak game and people are moping about Palushaj? I am still wondering if he can be as productive as his linemate and 20-goal scorer David Jones.

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02-19-2013, 02:52 AM
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A (good) third liner is not very hard to find in this league. Any top line player in the farm team could be a decent third liner in the NHL.

I won't lose any sleep or say MB made a big mistake because we let go of a potential good 3rd liner.
Well he was acquired from waivers, so we already have lost some value, let's hope it's not to a great extent.

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02-19-2013, 05:08 AM
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It isn't so much about Palushaj as it is the pattern, the big picture.
Do Montreal give up on young player too quickly?
Gut feeling says yes, there is a lot of forwards that has passed through without getting a solid chance, only to go on and have success with other teams.
I dont follow enough team closely to know if Montreal is worse than other teams, or if this is simply the way the leaugue works.
You can only carry 23 players, Palushaj was - right or wrong - the odd man out.
Who should Bergevin have moved instead?

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02-19-2013, 05:24 AM
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It's funny how Canadiens and Leafs fans are suddenly bemoaning the losses of Aaron Palushaj and John Mitchell.

You idiots. They weren't good enough to make your team but good enough to make another team. Who cares? Happens all the time for every team in the league.

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02-19-2013, 05:34 AM
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It's funny how Canadiens and Leafs fans are suddenly bemoaning the losses of Aaron Palushaj and John Mitchell.

You idiots. They weren't good enough to make your team but good enough to make another team. Who cares? Happens all the time for every team in the league.
It wasn't that he wasn't good enough to make the team, it's that the team refused to make room for him. We're seeing it with lars eller again, players who aren't playing well are continuing to get top six minutes while young players like eller and palushaj rot on the 4th line.

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02-19-2013, 05:38 AM
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It wasn't that he wasn't good enough to make the team, it's that the team refused to make room for him. We're seeing it with lars eller again, players who aren't playing well are continuing to get top six minutes while young players like eller and palushaj rot on the 4th line.
Eller : montreal
Palushaj : Hamilton

main difference.

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02-19-2013, 05:45 AM
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Eller : montreal
Palushaj : Hamilton

main difference.
I was making the correlation between eller this year and palushaj last year when he played 38 games on the 4th line.

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02-19-2013, 05:54 AM
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I was making the correlation between eller this year and palushaj last year when he played 38 games on the 4th line.
Eller has been a full time NHLer for three years now...

no correlation with Palushaj whatsoever.

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02-19-2013, 06:50 AM
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How many of these good young players that left for nothing could crack the Habs roster:

- Sergei Kostitsyn
- Maxim Lapierre
- Kyle Chipchura
- Mikhail Grabovski
- Benoit Pouliot
- Guillaume Latendresse
- Matt D'Agostini
- Aaron Palushaj
- Ryan O'Byrne

Yannick Weber is likely to join this list soon.

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02-19-2013, 06:55 AM
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Lol at people saying Palushaj didnt got a fair chance.

Who do you trade for him? Cole. Pacioretty. Gionta. Bourque?

Bye bye Palushaj. Happy to see you happy somewhere else. Here you wouldnt have.

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02-19-2013, 06:57 AM
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How many of these good young players that left for nothing could crack the Habs roster:

- Sergei Kostitsyn
- Maxim Lapierre
- Kyle Chipchura
- Mikhail Grabovski
- Benoit Pouliot
- Guillaume Latendresse
- Matt D'Agostini
- Aaron Palushaj
- Ryan O'Byrne

Yannick Weber is likely to join this list soon.
Sergei, Lapierre and O'Byrne.

Are improvements over :

Armstrong, Nokelainen and Kaberle.

I think Eller could do good with a skill passer like Sergei.

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02-19-2013, 07:00 AM
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Eller has been a full time NHLer for three years now...

no correlation with Palushaj whatsoever.
The correlation is the role they've played in mtl not how much time they have spent in the nhl.

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02-19-2013, 07:01 AM
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Sergei, Lapierre and O'Byrne.

Are improvements over :

Armstrong, Nokelainen and Kaberle.

I think Eller could do good with a skill passer like Sergei.
Would Lapierre and O'Byrne be in the press-box then?

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02-19-2013, 07:02 AM
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The correlation is the role they've played in mtl not how much time they have spent in the nhl.
And the anti-correlation is their performance ...

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How many of these good young players that left for nothing could crack the Habs roster:

- Sergei Kostitsyn
- Maxim Lapierre
- Kyle Chipchura
- Mikhail Grabovski
- Benoit Pouliot
- Guillaume Latendresse
- Matt D'Agostini
- Aaron Palushaj
- Ryan O'Byrne

Yannick Weber is likely to join this list soon.
Grabovski. Serge K. Lapierre. The others, not convinced. And don't bring up Pouliot, please.And I don't think Tenderness was breaking any records with the offensive juggernaut that is Ottawa...

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And the anti-correlation is their performance ...
Sure eller has played much better than palushaj did on the 4th line but eller has always been good defensively and has a good frame while palushaj is small and not very good defensively making him useless on the 4th line, but neither of them are 4th line players so the point stands that they were and are being wasted on the 4th line.

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02-19-2013, 11:04 AM
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I was making the correlation between eller this year and palushaj last year when he played 38 games on the 4th line.
Do you remember the injured lineup we had last year? Well Colorado has injuries like that this year. Not to mention a noticeable hold out. Once they get healthy, you honestly believe Palushaj will continue to have top6 minutes? I don't.

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02-19-2013, 11:15 AM
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Imagine:

bourque pleks gionta
pacioretty galchenyuk gallagher
skost eller cole
prust lapierre leblanc

markov emelin
macdonagh gorges
diaz pk

granted, we probably don't end up with galchenyuk, or collberg if some of these guys played for us last year. one man can dream though.

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