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Eller + 2013 1st + 2013 2nd(Calgary's) + 2013 2nd(Montreal's)

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02-18-2013, 11:35 AM
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You dont have to hate him to want him gone. You have repeatedly posted trades with him involved or offered him up in other trade ideas. Your thoughts are well known to hab fans.
I accept and we agree on that, i just want to make it clear that it have nothing to do with love or hate. Its all business.

But people using term like "haters" or "lovers" are just showing us on what level they do their decision making.


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02-18-2013, 11:46 AM
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For a guy who doesn't hate Price you sure want him off the Habs in almost every thread you join.

Do you know which goalie leads the league in the last 3 years for save percentage in even strength situations? Figure it out. That is the goalie we need in nets. Just a hint: Luongo is not that goalie, as good as he is.
According to my source...

http://theleafsnation.com/2012/11/30...ies-in-the-nhl

Lundqvist is the leader in even strenght situations, followed by Luongo. If we take this season into account, then Luongo is that goalie!

Price is 11th,


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02-18-2013, 11:52 AM
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According to my source...

http://theleafsnation.com/2012/11/30...ies-in-the-nhl

Lundqvist is the leader in even strenght situations, followed by Luongo.

Price is 11th,

Who cares about stats? Never shows how good or bad the team in front of the goalie plays.

Anyway, no team in the NHL wants 2 Elite Starter Goalies. Firstly you can't spend 10+millions on goalies in the salary cap NHL and secondly, you have controversies all the time.

And lastly: It takes a certain kind of goalie to play in MTL. Somone who can withstand the pressure of playing in Bell Centre and someone who can deal with the media. Luongo has a hard time in Vancouver. The media in Montreal would eat him alive. Price is the perfect goalie for the Habs.

EDIT: Concerning the OP - MTL would be wise to just keep Eller and the picks. This is a good draft and there is no need to make shortcuts and possibly end up with a Phil Kessel situation.

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02-18-2013, 12:04 PM
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we have absolutely no need for another goalie

Habs need some top 3 offensive talent and a right handed net clearing top 4 on D
thats it thats all

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02-18-2013, 12:17 PM
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That guy hates price It's why you should make him "invisible"
He doesn't hate Price so much as he is set in the belief cheap goaltending is the way to go. Believe me, Canuck fans know the irritation of palindrom's 'analysis'.

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02-18-2013, 02:24 PM
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He doesn't hate Price so much as he is set in the belief cheap goaltending is the way to go. Believe me, Canuck fans know the irritation of palindrom's 'analysis'.
I didnt had time to verify the impact of the new cba, but its possible the cap hits of the goalie doesn't have an impact as noticeable this season than in the past few. But it should still be there in 2013-2014.

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Eberle ?

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02-18-2013, 03:37 PM
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Eberle ?
Not what we need. Good player but he's basically an upgrade over Gallagher. A notch bigger and much better but still not big enough. Also, I'd rather not gun for a single highly skilled player. A player+prospect or two players would be ideal. Don't wanna get smaller on the wings and at center for that package.

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Not what we need. Good player but he's basically an upgrade over Gallagher. A notch bigger and much better but still not big enough. Also, I'd rather not gun for a single highly skilled player. A player+prospect or two players would be ideal. Don't wanna get smaller on the wings and at center for that package.
If Eberle was actually available for that offer, you make the trade without even thinking. Not one piece is likely to come anywhere near Eberle's ceiling.

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02-18-2013, 06:44 PM
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Not what we need. Good player but he's basically an upgrade over Gallagher. A notch bigger and much better but still not big enough. Also, I'd rather not gun for a single highly skilled player. A player+prospect or two players would be ideal. Don't wanna get smaller on the wings and at center for that package.
I'd trade all that and more for Eberle in a heartbeat hahaha.

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Eberle ?
Highly doubt Edmonton would even consider doing this.

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Highly doubt Edmonton would even consider doing this.
i have no doubt they wont even consider doing this.

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You underestimate Price
He hates price and constantly tries to get him out of mtl. This is just a round about way to say he'd rather have anyone other than price even if they're a playoff choker.

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you underestimate Luongo.

He would try to push himself to outplay Price and become our starter.
I hope your not serious

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Way too early for a thread like this. You guys are playing some good hockey right now, but we're barely past the quarter point of the season. Way too many things can change.

If you guys do end up picking in the 15-20 range, can I assume you guys would take a long look at Gauthier? He and Galy would give you a ton of size and good two way pivots as a 1-2 punch down the middle.

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Way too early for a thread like this. You guys are playing some good hockey right now, but we're barely past the quarter point of the season. Way too many things can change.

If you guys do end up picking in the 15-20 range, can I assume you guys would take a long look at Gauthier? He and Galy would give you a ton of size and good two way pivots as a 1-2 punch down the middle.
Most team already played 15/16 games and this short season has only 48 games. We have already played 1/3 of the season and not 1/4.

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02-19-2013, 02:53 AM
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i wouldn't trade the picks. maybe just Eller and the 2x2nd rounders but not
our 1st rounder.
if we do trade Eller with the 2x2nd rounders i'd like for Montreal to go get
a gritty forward player who can play some decent hockey.
a player like Steve Downie or Daniel Carcillo.
Montreal need some decent size physical gritty players.
unfortunately Moen, Armstrong arent doing the job..
Prust wont be alone to face our rivals like bruins and leafs all the time.
we can't have Gallagher and Gorges fighting anymore, that's just ridiculous...

lines would prob be:

Pacio - David - Cole
Bourq - Pleky - Gionta
Prust - Chucky - Gally
Carcillo/Downie - White - Moen


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02-19-2013, 08:06 AM
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that package should get us ROR

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that package should get us ROR
I agree with you that he would be a good pick-up. Seems like were not allowed to go after ror though around here because if we had to pay him more than Subban it would be unfair.

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02-19-2013, 08:15 AM
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Honestly, Montreal is not a team that should consider moving their first unless a highly touted prospect is coming back. They are very much an unknown and while last season is likely an anomaly. There is no assurance the team won't fizzle out down the stretch. Just not worth the gamble, especially when the draft is supposedly quite strong.

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02-19-2013, 08:18 AM
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I agree with you that he would be a good pick-up. Seems like were not allowed to go after ror though around here because if we had to pay him more than Subban it would be unfair.
It's not so much "pay him more than Subban"

it's "give him a better contract than Subban"

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We're not buyers, so lets keep our picks and young centre

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i wouldn't trade the picks. maybe just Eller and the 2x2nd rounders but not
our 1st rounder.
if we do trade Eller with the 2x2nd rounders i'd like for Montreal to go get
a gritty forward player who can play some decent hockey.
a player like Steve Downie or Daniel Carcillo.
Montreal need some decent size physical gritty players.
unfortunately Moen, Armstrong arent doing the job..
Prust wont be alone to face our rivals like bruins and leafs all the time.
we can't have Gallagher and Gorges fighting anymore, that's just ridiculous...

lines would prob be:

Pacio - David - Cole
Bourq - Pleky - Gionta
Prust - Chucky - Gally
Carcillo/Downie - White - Moen
Please tell me you aren't a habs fan... Trade the bulk of our rebuilding tools for a fourth liner one of which is on a hefty contract

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02-19-2013, 11:55 AM
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Please tell me you aren't a habs fan... Trade the bulk of our rebuilding tools for a fourth liner one of which is on a hefty contract
listen, i am a habs fan and i hate to lose vs toronto, boston or flyers.
montreal been lacking grit for the last 5 years. Eller is a good trade piece.
Downie would be an excellent player for our team. so would carcillo.
I can agree that it would be a little over payed if Eller was traded for
carcillo but Habs need those types of players. You can make them play
on the 3rd or 4th and move them up if ever your playing the bruins or leafs.
we cannot have Gallagher and Gorges stepping up for the team anymore just
because Moen and Armstrong arent doing it.
Prust is a lonely fighter with the habs and Ryan White takes dumb penalties...
Eller isn't effective if hes playing on the 4th line..
anyway you have tons of players like Dumont, Leblanc, Bournival, Vail and if not
another player with our 1st round draft coming up.
If Eller doesn't have an official spot on the 3 first lines right now he really
wont in 1 or 2 years from now either.

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