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02-18-2013, 07:05 PM
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would you trade DD and Weber for ROR we would have Galchenyuk ROR Pleks and Eller as centermen going forward
You know who wouldn't? All the Colorado fans.

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Unless the + is Couturier, it's a bad offer. Even with Couturier I wouldn't do it, but that's me
I agree with you. Simmonds isn't worth half of what Subban can bring to the Montreal Canadiens and that's being generous.

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Am I the only one who heard Lavoie say that O'reilly was a Habs fan and wants to wear the bleu blanc rouge?

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I consider having a guy who can bring the same type of intangibles as Plekanec more of a luxury than a redundancy for the team. It would give us the ability to grind out series the same way that Phoenix did last year in the playoffs but the difference is that our team is a LOT better than theirs. I'd rather have Plekanec, ROR, Eller and Gally than Hanzal, Vermette & Gordon as center depth.
I am not saying I would not take ROR.

I am simply saying would not completely overpay for him in terms of assets when Plekanec is already doing so well in the ''hard minutes'' role at C and you have Eller involving into a player you can trust in a lot of situations at C too. There are other needs that need to be looked at.

COL is reportedly only trading him for a big overpay.

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02-18-2013, 11:17 PM
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Am I the only one who heard Lavoie say that O'reilly was a Habs fan and wants to wear the bleu blanc rouge?
What?!?! when and where?

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02-19-2013, 12:12 AM
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Moving discussion from the GDT ...



I am not saying I would not take ROR.

I am simply saying would not completely overpay for him in terms of assets when Plekanec is already doing so well in the ''hard minutes'' role at C and you have Eller involving into a player you can trust in a lot of situations at C too. There are other needs that need to be looked at.

COL is reportedly only trading him for a big overpay.
Lavoie said a 1st or a 2nd + an established player. Sounds reasonable if you ask me. The problem is accepting his contract when you already behaved like a hard ball with Subban. That would make the org look a bit like hypocrites.

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What?!?! when and where?
He wrote this in his blog tonight:

http://legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/60.../155241/public

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Pour ce qui est du Canadien, je peux vous confirmer que Ryan O’Reilly (18 buts, 37 passes en 81 matchs en 2011-12) n’est pas de ces joueurs qui ont peur de Montréal et de la pression qui vient avec.

Au contraire, on me confirme que le Canadien fait partie des formations avec laquelle il aimerait évoluer.

Le message est clair, mais ceci ne veut pas dire pour autant que Marc Bergevin va transiger en ce sens.
Translation: He's not scared of MTL or the pressure that comes with it. He also writes that it's been confirmed to him that the Habs are one of the teams ROR would love to play for.

The message is clear, but it doesn't mean that Marc Bergevin will make a trade for him.

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02-19-2013, 12:25 AM
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Lavoie said a 1st or a 2nd + an established player. Sounds reasonable if you ask me. The problem is accepting his contract when you already behaved like a hard ball with Subban. That would make the org look a bit like hypocrites.
unless bergevin can convince him to do the bridge deal too

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Lavoie said a 1st or a 2nd + an established player. Sounds reasonable if you ask me. The problem is accepting his contract when you already behaved like a hard ball with Subban. That would make the org look a bit like hypocrites.
Exactly why people need to drop this.

Also, "established player" is going to be Pacioretty not Eller.

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Lavoie said a 1st or a 2nd + an established player. Sounds reasonable if you ask me. The problem is accepting his contract when you already behaved like a hard ball with Subban. That would make the org look a bit like hypocrites.
And CBC said the asking price was 2 roster players + a pick + a blue chip prospect.

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02-19-2013, 01:14 AM
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And CBC said the asking price was 2 roster players + a pick + a blue chip prospect.
ROR is not Rick Nash.

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Shoot for the moon, settle for the Stratusphere.

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Lavoie said a 1st or a 2nd + an established player. Sounds reasonable if you ask me. The problem is accepting his contract when you already behaved like a hard ball with Subban. That would make the org look a bit like hypocrites.
Well since we are looking at ( hoping too ) that we'll have a low draft pick this year, we might want to use it to get a player like Ryan O'Reilley. Lars Eller may be enough although I doubt it, if it doesn't work Desharnais would be a logical choice or... I may get some fire for saying this, but trading our captain would be a viable option.


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Desharnais and a first for ROR?

Sign me up lol.

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02-19-2013, 05:16 AM
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Desharnais and a first for ROR?

Sign me up lol.

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I would nevr trade a first in a deep draft. Except if the return is HUGE.

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And CBC said the asking price was 2 roster players + a pick + a blue chip prospect.
Pass. O'Reilly is more of a "nice to have" rather than "need to have". We have 2 bigger centers in Galchenyuk and Eller. Plus, Eller has really stepped up his play and is doing a lot of the things ROR would bring for no added assets and a much lower cap hit.

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Desharnais and a first for ROR?

Sign me up lol.
Getting ROR is bad idea if he asks for more than a bridge deal.

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02-19-2013, 08:21 AM
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I would nevr trade a first in a deep draft. Except if the return is HUGE.
I agree I think this is gonna be an important draft year for us, I would rather not trade our 1st.

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02-19-2013, 09:01 AM
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And CBC said the asking price was 2 roster players + a pick + a blue chip prospect.
Yeah that might be what was the asking price before Colorado found out no one would pay it. In any case, I don't think the habs are in a position to do this deal, not without a bigger risk than necessary.

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The asking price for Ryan O'Rielly is an established young NHL player and a 1st round or 2nd round draft pick.

My prosposal would be:

David Desharnais + 2nd round draft pick in 2013

FOR

Ryan O'Rielly

Then our forward lines can be:

Pacioretty - O'Rielly - Cole
Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Prust - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Moen - Eller - Armtrong

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02-19-2013, 09:12 AM
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I agree I think this is gonna be an important draft year for us, I would rather not trade our 1st.
I agree, keep the 1st. I would toss two 2nds as part of a deal (depending on the roster player).

Desharnais + two 2nds + prospect (Kristo?) for ROR

Eller has picked his game up, I wouldn't want to send him out as he has provided some of what ROR can do for much much less than what ROR would want.

not to mention what it says to the team if you sign this RFA to a big money long term deal when no other RFA here has been.

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02-19-2013, 09:55 AM
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I agree, keep the 1st. I would toss two 2nds as part of a deal (depending on the roster player).

Desharnais + two 2nds + prospect (Kristo?) for ROR

Eller has picked his game up, I wouldn't want to send him out as he has provided some of what ROR can do for much much less than what ROR would want.

not to mention what it says to the team if you sign this RFA to a big money long term deal when no other RFA here has been.
That's an overpayment. ROR can be had (by any team he cares to sign with) for a first and a second pick (based on the fact that ROR is looking for 5 million/season, the Avalanche are unwilling to pay him that and the compensation for that contract is a first and a second). Desharnais + Kristo + 2nd > 1st in my book. I would personally stop with Desharnais (if we get ROR he's the centre most likely to be forced out of the lineup) and a second (and maybe a late round pick to sweeten the pot).

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And CBC said the asking price was 2 roster players + a pick + a blue chip prospect.
Closest comparable is Turris who came to Ottawa for a top prospect and a draft pick. I know that everyone thinks that RoR is worth a lot more but considering that Colorado want 2 roster playes on top of what Ottawa got, then I would say they want a lot... unless the roster players are Weber and Kaberle.

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02-19-2013, 10:00 AM
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That's an overpayment. ROR can be had (by any team he cares to sign with) for a first and a second pick (based on the fact that ROR is looking for 5 million/season, the Avalanche are unwilling to pay him that and the compensation for that contract is a first and a second). Desharnais + Kristo + 2nd > 1st in my book. I would personally stop with Desharnais (if we get ROR he's the centre most likely to be forced out of the lineup) and a second (and maybe a late round pick to sweeten the pot).
There will be at least 10 teams bidding for him, you may need to offer more. But at a certain point you have to have a max price in mind and stick to not passing that point

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Bergevin won't move Desharnais period. The guy gets a much longer leash because of the francophone factor. It's just the elephant in the room that nobody is mentioning.

Eller is the more realistic option if anyone is moved. Which I doubt they will be. Eller is bigger and cheaper and has played really well this year. He finally looks motivated.

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