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02-16-2013, 11:37 PM
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Yea, pretty easily.

LWs and picks, if he'll waive his NTC.
Would either Rene Bourque or Lars Ellers (C + W) be ballpark?

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Overpaying IMO.

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Would either Rene Bourque or Lars Ellers (C + W) be ballpark?
Easily. Doubt Bourque moves with as hot as he's been (not sure I'd want him, that seems like a lateral move). Eller is a guy I'd love to get. Could use another center, makes Fiddler available, and is young with top 6 potential.

Don't see us getting either for Morrow straight up.

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02-17-2013, 12:16 AM
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Would either Rene Bourque or Lars Ellers (C + W) be ballpark?
That is more than he is worth IMO. Even if he is back to close to his best, he is a UFA.

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02-17-2013, 12:22 AM
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You guys are setting yourself up to make Joe look good. Morrow will command good value, and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. He's respected around the league, and there will be plenty of interest in him.

The real question is, will he be traded? All signs point to yes.

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What signs would those be?

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The signs that he's been pretty bad, he's heading into UFA and were obviously not contenders.

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02-17-2013, 02:27 AM
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Just going off of quotes throughout the media and player interviews. Wish I had some links, but it's late, and yeah.

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I would say all signs point to him not being offered a new contract here after the season. As much as it would be nice to get something for him I don't see it happening. I'm basing my view on the history of our GM, if you guys have something else other than what the good reverend pointed out, i.e. the obvious, I'm going to continue to doubt.

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I would say all signs point to him not being offered a new contract here after the season. As much as it would be nice to get something for him I don't see it happening. I'm basing my view on the history of our GM, if you guys have something else other than what the good reverend pointed out, i.e. the obvious, I'm going to continue to doubt.
I agree. As long as this team is in the playoff hunt, the aren't trading Morrow.

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02-17-2013, 10:38 AM
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There is some *speculation* on the trade forum board that Jack Johnson could become available. Could Dallas be a potential trade partner with CBJ?

Larsen + R. Smith + 2nd round

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There is some *speculation* on the trade forum board that Jack Johnson could become available. Could Dallas be a potential trade partner with CBJ?

Larsen + R. Smith + 2nd round
He'll cost a ton. I also have no idea why he'd be available, I think he's a #1 there and I'm pretty sure Columbus feels the same, unless their new GM is doing damage control or something. Even then, he's not a bad piece to keep around.

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No, why would you want Jack Johnson?

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There is some *speculation* on the trade forum board that Jack Johnson could become available. Could Dallas be a potential trade partner with CBJ?

Larsen + R. Smith + 2nd round
JJ and Goligoski on the same team is a recipe for disaster.

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JJ and Goligoski on the same team is a recipe for disaster.
This, basically. Two horrible defensive players... ugh.

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God no on Johnson. I don't consider him to be much better than Gogo, and would not trade any decent prospects for him.

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02-17-2013, 01:04 PM
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I tend to agree Morrow falls into the Mosano and Turco category. Unless Dallas has a total collapse, I can't see him being traded.

Ryder on the other hand, I get the feeling more and more he's in the Grossmann category. He's been OK but not great, and his valuebat the deadline has the potential to be significant. Furthermore, I get the feeling Fraser will get a shot pretty soon at Ryder's role. He's playing too well in the AHL, and Dallas has already identified him as close ... both in the summer and prior to the start of the season.

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02-17-2013, 01:55 PM
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I tend to agree Morrow falls into the Mosano and Turco category. Unless Dallas has a total collapse, I can't see him being traded.

Ryder on the other hand, I get the feeling more and more he's in the Grossmann category. He's been OK but not great, and his valuebat the deadline has the potential to be significant. Furthermore, I get the feeling Fraser will get a shot pretty soon at Ryder's role. He's playing too well in the AHL, and Dallas has already identified him as close ... both in the summer and prior to the start of the season.
I expect the playoff picture to be too close to call at the deadline, and I have a hard time imagining Joe will trade somebody like Ryder when the team has a decent chance at a playoff spot, especially because Ryder is likely to return futures rather than useful players.

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02-17-2013, 02:00 PM
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I tend to agree Morrow falls into the Modano and Turco category. Unless Dallas has a total collapse, I can't see him being traded.

Ryder on the other hand, I get the feeling more and more he's in the Grossmann category. He's been OK but not great, and his value at the deadline has the potential to be significant. Furthermore, I get the feeling Fraser will get a shot pretty soon at Ryder's role. He's playing too well in the AHL, and Dallas has already identified him as close ... both in the summer and prior to the start of the season.

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02-17-2013, 03:56 PM
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I take Johnson over Goligoski every day of the week. At least he can hit.

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02-17-2013, 04:05 PM
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I take Johnson over Goligoski every day of the week. At least he can hit.
I suppose in a trade of Goose for Johnson I'd take it, but trading for him to play in a lineup with Goose, ugh.

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02-17-2013, 05:00 PM
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Overpaying IMO.
that s what figured

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I suppose in a trade of Goose for Johnson I'd take it, but trading for him to play in a lineup with Goose, ugh.
Like CBJ would do that? This doltish trade sticks with JN forever...unless the team wins a cup with him still at the helm (highly unlikely).

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02-19-2013, 12:34 PM
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James Mirtle predicts teams will need 55 points to likely make the playoffs. 1/3 of the season is over, and Dallas would need 38 points in the final 32 games to reach that total.

They could accomplish that total by going 19-13-0 in the final 32. They still haven't demonstrated an ability to lose well as they have only 1 OTL in the first third of the season. If that trend continues, they could go 18-12-2 to get 55 points.

They have 18 home games left, and they have 14 road games left. If they can manage to stay .500 on the road and get 7 wins/14 points, they'd need 24 points in their 18 home games which honestly seems doable. That's a winning % though of 0.667 and they currently only have a winning % of 0.583. Hopefully the fact they have several long home stands in the future will allow them to start winning more at home rather than having 1 or 2 games here and there at home like they've had so far.

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James Mirtle predicts teams will need 55 points to likely make the playoffs. 1/3 of the season is over, and Dallas would need 38 points in the final 32 games to reach that total.

They could accomplish that total by going 19-13-0 in the final 32. They still haven't demonstrated an ability to lose well as they have only 1 OTL in the first third of the season. If that trend continues, they could go 18-12-2 to get 55 points.

They have 18 home games left, and they have 14 road games left. If they can manage to stay .500 on the road and get 7 wins/14 points, they'd need 24 points in their 18 home games which honestly seems doable. That's a winning % though of 0.667 and they currently only have a winning % of 0.583. Hopefully the fact they have several long home stands in the future will allow them to start winning more at home rather than having 1 or 2 games here and there at home like they've had so far.
Already starting with that, are we? lol

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