HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Brad Richards

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-19-2013, 03:34 PM
  #226
stan the caddy
Registered User
 
stan the caddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,557
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Its nice to have the option in the back pocket in Summer 2014.

A ton can happen between now and then. We can speculate on a message board, but I assure you the Rangers front office isnt giving it any thought whatsoever right now.
I can assure you that they are giving it consideration because if they weren't, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.

Richards is playing for his long term deal right now. If his production tails off a buyout after the 2014 season is a no brainer. We knew that when we acquired him we'd get the production in the short term but we'd have to take on the long term risk (signed until 2020). If we can get out of the deal before all of our younger players get their raises, we've absolutely maximized that signing.

Nothing personal against Richards, I think he's played fine but we all know what having an aging center with a long term contract can do to our cap situation.

stan the caddy is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 04:02 PM
  #227
SwedishBullet62
Never go full torts.
 
SwedishBullet62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 4,723
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by stan the caddy View Post
I can assure you that they are giving it consideration because if they weren't, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.

Richards is playing for his long term deal right now. If his production tails off a buyout after the 2014 season is a no brainer. We knew that when we acquired him we'd get the production in the short term but we'd have to take on the long term risk (signed until 2020). If we can get out of the deal before all of our younger players get their raises, we've absolutely maximized that signing.

Nothing personal against Richards, I think he's played fine but we all know what having an aging center with a long term contract can do to our cap situation.
two questions, if we buy out richards, A. who fills his place? miller or stepan or another high paid center? and B. how do we compete without a #1 center thats as close to a sure thing to perform in the playoffs as it gets. i really dont think down the line his cap hit is going to be a problem, he can be traded, the isles traded a second just to reach the cap floor, and even in 4 years Richards will be somewhat worth trading for.

SwedishBullet62 is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 04:04 PM
  #228
Brian Boyle
portnor, pls
 
Brian Boyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,501
vCash: 659
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerdanger20 View Post
two questions, if we buy out richards, A. who fills his place? miller or stepan or another high paid center? and B. how do we compete without a #1 center thats as close to a sure thing to perform in the playoffs as it gets. i really dont think down the line his cap hit is going to be a problem, he can be traded, the isles traded a second just to reach the cap floor, and even in 4 years Richards will be somewhat worth trading for.
Well if he was bought out there would be another $6.67M in cap space opening up, so there's that.

Also he has a NMC, and is he's traded the Rangers will be on the hook for a big cap benefit recapture charge if he retires early.

Brian Boyle is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 04:51 PM
  #229
stan the caddy
Registered User
 
stan the caddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,557
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerdanger20 View Post
two questions, if we buy out richards, A. who fills his place? miller or stepan or another high paid center? and B. how do we compete without a #1 center thats as close to a sure thing to perform in the playoffs as it gets. i really dont think down the line his cap hit is going to be a problem, he can be traded, the isles traded a second just to reach the cap floor, and even in 4 years Richards will be somewhat worth trading for.
Richards isn't a cap dump until 2017-2018. He'll turn 37 in 2016-2017 and still make 7 a year.

As far as replacing him goes, we might not be able to keep him anyway. We have numerous young players that will need to receive significant raises before that time comes, basically all of our good players. Whether we'll have the money to keep all those guys will be dependent on where league revenues go which determines the cap.

The safest bet is to get rid of him after next season, avoid the risk, and if we have the space we can go after someone younger.

If Richards was pumping out 90+ points and running a great power play I'd be singing a different tune but he's not. He's been a mid 60 point player for the Rangers and his shot totals are down right.

stan the caddy is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:40 PM
  #230
KreiMeARiver
Have Confidence
 
KreiMeARiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Southern Oracle
Posts: 6,461
vCash: 500
I was SO excited when we signed him, but right now, I hate this guy.

He looks to have pulled a Drury/Gomez on us. "My skills are about to completely erode so let me sign a monster deal with the NYR."

This sucks, and so does Richards..

KreiMeARiver is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:40 PM
  #231
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 27,962
vCash: 500
Bumping for effect. He was awful again. Over 1/4 of the way through the season. Awful. No excuse.

NYR Viper is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:42 PM
  #232
Kershaw
 
Kershaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country:
Posts: 25,519
vCash: 50
This guy IMO is a carbon copy of Gomez. Cut ties with him now before it's too late. There will still be interested teams in his services, believing he is still a 'clutch', 'elite 1C'. Get it done Slats.

Kershaw is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:44 PM
  #233
RGY
(Jagr68NYR94Leetch)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 7,982
vCash: 500
I've had enough. Buy him out after the year. MTL is not a better team than the rangers. Richards is awful. His passes are flat out bad and his decisions are stupid. He can't win a faceoff to save his life.

RGY is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:46 PM
  #234
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 27,962
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kershaw View Post
This guy IMO is a carbon copy of Gomez. Cut ties with him now before it's too late. There will still be interested teams in his services, believing he is still a 'clutch', 'elite 1C'. Get it done Slats.
He doesn't have the skating skills of Gomez. He looks bad. Cut ties now.

NYR Viper is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:47 PM
  #235
Net Front Presence
Harvester of Sorrow
 
Net Front Presence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 5,841
vCash: 12000
I wonder if there is any team interested in a $12 million dollar no-show.

Net Front Presence is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:47 PM
  #236
Killem Dafoe
Moderator
modus operandi
 
Killem Dafoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Land of Bad Drivers
Country: United States
Posts: 15,242
vCash: 50
I agree, at least Gomez could skate. Richards is painful to watch at almost every facet of the game.

Killem Dafoe is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:47 PM
  #237
Bob Richards
Global Moderator
Mr. Mojo Risin'
 
Bob Richards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 45,610
vCash: 50
I know its sacrilege to bring up, but Gomez was a vastly better skater than Richards.

__________________
"New day, new hope. Richards Buyout 2014". -Ail
Bob Richards is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:49 PM
  #238
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 27,962
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Net Front Presence View Post
I wonder if there is any team interested in a $12 million dollar no-show.
Over the nex 7 years of hi conract, he has a ~5 point something inernal cap hit. You can't tell me a team wouldn't take him. TRADE HIM GLEN!

NYR Viper is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:52 PM
  #239
Hanke
Tortsless Rangers
 
Hanke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 4,182
vCash: 500
BUY HIM OUT SIGN GETZLAF!!!!!!!!!!!111

i'm so serious.

Hanke is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:55 PM
  #240
Cresto
Much Disappoint
 
Cresto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,441
vCash: 500
I am now going to sacrifice a squirrel to awaken the spirits to empower this poor man and revive his career.

Cresto is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:58 PM
  #241
Kershaw
 
Kershaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country:
Posts: 25,519
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Net Front Presence View Post
I wonder if there is any team interested in a $12 million dollar no-show.
The Flames offered more annually for Richards than the Rangers did. They'll definitely be interested in him due to the Feaster connection.

I say trade Richards to the Flames for 1st, Jankowski and Stempniak.

Kershaw is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:58 PM
  #242
Zamboner
Your move, creep.
 
Zamboner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,648
vCash: 500
I'd also like to point out, because it hasn't been mentioned nearly enough for my taste, Richards was awful for like 60 of 82 games last year too. I think it got lost in the "adjusting to a new team" storyline, but it's very possible that was just the first step in his current and ultimate suckage.

Zamboner is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:59 PM
  #243
ImIdaho
Choo-Choo-Choose me!
 
ImIdaho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,151
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khris Creider View Post
BUY HIM OUT SIGN GETZLAF!!!!!!!!!!!111

i'm so serious.
Thing is, hasn't Getzlaf let it be known that he would sign with the Flyers?

ImIdaho is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:59 PM
  #244
OverTheCap
Registered User
 
OverTheCap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 9,598
vCash: 500
Richards' timing is way off. I wish he spent more time on the ice during the lockout. He could have benefited from playing in Europe for a month or so. Too late now.

OverTheCap is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 08:59 PM
  #245
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 27,962
vCash: 500
He honestly looks like Gomez if Gomez had Rick Nash and Marian Gaborik to play with.

NYR Viper is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 09:18 PM
  #246
BroadwayBlues
oxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo
 
BroadwayBlues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York City
Country: United States
Posts: 7,860
vCash: 500
D-o-n-e

BroadwayBlues is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 09:24 PM
  #247
MaximusT
Registered User
 
MaximusT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 975
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImIdaho View Post
Thing is, hasn't Getzlaf let it be known that he would sign with the Flyers?
No, I'm curious as to where you heard this. Have never heard of a UFA announcing his intentions to sign at a specific club mid season.

MaximusT is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 09:25 PM
  #248
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,641
vCash: 500
Richards isn't playing well at all.

But its also plain to see that theres a ton of people around here that wouldnt be satisfied by any 1st line center. Sort of an "anyone but him" mentality will be pervasive.

I still think Richards makes a ton of you eat crow as the season progresses.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
02-19-2013, 09:28 PM
  #249
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 27,962
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Richards isn't playing well at all.

But its also plain to see that theres a ton of people around here that wouldnt be satisfied by any 1st line center. Sort of an "anyone but him" mentality will be pervasive.

I still think Richards makes a ton of you eat crow as the season progresses.
I'll gladly do it if i happens. Getting close to half-way through already. As long as you are willing to do the same if he doesn't get any better

NYR Viper is online now  
Old
02-19-2013, 09:29 PM
  #250
Panfork
Pacioretty Hater
 
Panfork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 2,377
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Richards isn't playing well at all.

But its also plain to see that theres a ton of people around here that wouldnt be satisfied by any 1st line center. Sort of an "anyone but him" mentality will be pervasive.

I still think Richards makes a ton of you eat crow as the season progresses.
I hope to god you are right.

Panfork is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.