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go down with the ship? or make some moves?

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Make a trade that may help the team win 25 35.21%
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02-19-2013, 02:20 PM
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I'm not opposed to trades, as long as it doesn't involves our picks. I'm fine going forward with this line-up, and people need to keep in mind that despite our good record, we are not a contender yet. We're still the same bubble team we were for the last x years. However, we're on the right path now. We have all the major pieces within the organisation, and this draft is the one that is going to give us the depth that can elevate a bubble team to a contender.

4 picks that will probably end up in the top 50 in a very strong draft year... It's time to let Timmins work his magic, not make panic moves to land rentals in hope of getting to the second round.

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02-19-2013, 02:49 PM
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We have to wait a little before thinking trades.
But still, all depends on what is out there.

Habs are healthy right now...but if there.s injuries, we need players that can fill the void.
I would try to keep my draft picks and even add one or two if it possible.

We are not in trouble, let the other teams come to us if they need something and see from there!

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02-19-2013, 03:33 PM
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Go down with the ship sounds really negative... Like sinking with the ship.
maybe I should have used sink or swim with the current line-up?



but ya, sounds negative for sure.

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02-19-2013, 03:35 PM
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I think we should trade for Iginla. A 1st and a prospect is not a hefty price to pay for a veteran of his caliber, especially if we can manage to re-sign him for next year. We are weak on the wings. A Dman would be nice too, but we should be patient, we have Tinordi and Beaulieu.
NO...

Watch him play, dude is slow and not as dominant as a few years ago.

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02-19-2013, 04:12 PM
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Isn't it obvious that being a GM requires not only putting in long hours but also great patience? You can trade stocks at will because there are so many buyers and sellers on the market but opportunities to trade NHL players are few and far between, especially early in the season. If Bergevin wanted to trade Desharnais, for example, he'd have to make many calls and even then he might not find much interest. The likelihood that a GM would call Bergevin and ask if Desharnais is available is even more dubious. So, let's assume that the Habs will probably look the same up to just before the trading deadline as they do today, barring further injuries or a startlingly great improvement in one of the Bulldogs.

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02-19-2013, 04:31 PM
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Isn't it obvious that being a GM requires not only putting in long hours but also great patience? You can trade stocks at will because there are so many buyers and sellers on the market but opportunities to trade NHL players are few and far between, especially early in the season. If Bergevin wanted to trade Desharnais, for example, he'd have to make many calls and even then he might not find much interest. The likelihood that a GM would call Bergevin and ask if Desharnais is available is even more dubious. So, let's assume that the Habs will probably look the same up to just before the trading deadline as they do today, barring further injuries or a startlingly great improvement in one of the Bulldogs.
Although a little improvement in Blunden, or Dumont may be enough for the
forth line. Okay, I realize that won't change the look of are team.

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02-19-2013, 04:31 PM
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I think we should trade for Iginla. A 1st and a prospect is not a hefty price to pay for a veteran of his caliber, especially if we can manage to re-sign him for next year. We are weak on the wings. A Dman would be nice too, but we should be patient, we have Tinordi and Beaulieu.
Iginla won't have a contract next year, I've been over this many times before, there is simply no valuable reason to give up anything to get Iginla when he could decide to sign another contract with the Calgary Flames in the summer.

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02-19-2013, 05:01 PM
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Are you satisfied with the team for this year? would you make a move at the deadline (if we stay top 6) and trade a prospect or/and some picks? if so for who and what's your reasoning?

or are you fine with the team as is, injuries and all?

I prefer the latter, and hope we do not give up any prospects or picks. Timmins drafting is second to none, and if anything--I hope we move a player, or two for some picks if the situation arrives.
If Timmons is so great these past 12 years how come we haven't come close to winning a Cup during this period?

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02-19-2013, 05:03 PM
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If Timmons is so great these past 12 years how come we haven't come close to winning a Cup during this period?
Louie Leblanc? Terry Ryan? Shall I continue?
hmm... I think you may be doing this wrong...

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02-19-2013, 05:06 PM
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If Timmons is so great these past 12 years how come we haven't come close to winning a Cup during this period?
he isnt part of the Habs Org.

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If Timmons is so great these past 12 years how come we haven't come close to winning a Cup during this period?
Louie Leblanc? Shall I continue?
To be fair...we did make it to the Eastern Conference Finals a couple years ago.

Better than 26 other teams.

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hmm... I think you may be doing this wrong...
I had a feeling someone might call me out on this so I edited my post. No names. I just want someone to answer my question.

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02-19-2013, 05:07 PM
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If Timmons is so great these past 12 years how come we haven't come close to winning a Cup during this period?
Louie Leblanc? Shall I continue?
Timmins... Not Timmons.

His worst misrakes:. Fischer, Urqhuart, Maxwell and White.

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02-19-2013, 05:11 PM
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Timmins... Not Timmons.

His worst misrakes:. Fischer, Urqhuart, Maxwell and White.
Man, that Timmons guy sure makes a lot of misrakes!

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Man, that Timmons guy sure makes a lot of misrakes!
good thing we have Timmins then

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Fischer
And to think of who was drafted 2 picks later...


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So far NO ONE has answered my question, but rather seem more concerned about my spelling. Was it too hard?

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02-19-2013, 05:16 PM
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Answer to OP:
I would rather have a proven young commodity than a prospect who may or may not ever make the team.

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02-19-2013, 05:16 PM
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To be fair...we did make it to the Eastern Conference Finals a couple years ago.

Better than 26 other teams.
To be fair, that was an 80 point team, pulled kicking and screaming to 88 points by a hot goaltender then absolutely carried by said goaltender for 9 victories in the playoffs.

Also to be fair Timmins does his job adequately, he's not the rock star some people think but he's a definite strength.

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Timmins... Not Timmons.

His worst misrakes:. Fischer, Urqhuart, Maxwell and White.
I'm pretty sure I spelled his name correctly but my cell phone often changes my spelling to what she prefers. Lol

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So far NO ONE has answered my question, but rather seem more concerned about my spelling. Was it too hard?
Timmins was GaineyGoated. It's hard for a Player Director to overcome that kind of management incompetence.

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To be fair, that was an 80 point team, pulled kicking and screaming to 88 points by a hot goaltender then absolutely carried by said goaltender for 9 victories in the playoffs.

Also to be fair Timmins does his job adequately, he's not the rock star some people think but he's a definite strength.
A hot goaltender who was drafted by, you guessed it...Timmons!

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02-19-2013, 05:25 PM
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To be fair...we did make it to the Eastern Conference Finals a couple years ago.

Better than 26 other teams.
Wow, you are easy to please. One conference final in 20 years and you are pleased. More of we fans should be like you......I think.

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02-19-2013, 05:26 PM
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Well, it's impossible to say in general. I'd look at any and all trades specifically on their individual merit. With the general intention of keeping the team as competitive as possible in the immediate sense, but also not sacrificing future competitiveness and the overall building process.

That perhaps suggests "untouched", but I wouldn't rule out moves automatically. It all depends what's on the table.
Pretty much this.

There are years where you'd be willing to trade a 1st or a good prospect to improve on a weakness but the habs aren't at that point.

I'd only trade futures if we were talking about a game changer. Iginla would be nice but looking at his stats.. he seems to be having a difficult season so I don't think I'd go for it unless he came cheap.

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Timmins was GaineyGoated. It's hard for a Player Director to overcome that kind of management incompetence.
Are you saying Gainey made him draft players he preferred not to draft?

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