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02-19-2013, 01:37 PM
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02-19-2013, 02:25 PM
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Me too. I wouldn't trade Diaz for a forward who doesn't come close in production. We have to add a 3rd as well? lol.
Watching Kreider play in last year's playoffs must have made you like him a bit. The kid is 6-3, 220 pds with a knack for timely goals and big hits. On top of that he's 5 yrs younger with blazing speed. A future line of Kreider,Galy and Patches would be very difficult to contain.

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02-19-2013, 02:27 PM
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Bill Guerin was rumored to have been traded to the Rangers about 5 years ago. He ended up going to Pitt. The teams discuss trades, especially at the deadline when the Isles are clearly selling. They don't care where the 2nd rounder comes from, just that they get the best package.
Snow did that as a favor to Guerin, to keep him in the NE. Also, Visnovsky and Streit provide more than Guerin did, at least IMO.

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02-19-2013, 02:27 PM
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Watching Kreider play in last year's playoffs must have made you like him a bit. The kid is 6-3, 220 pds with a knack for timely goals and big hits. On top of that he's 5 yrs younger with blazing speed. A future line of Kreider,Galy and Patches would be very difficult to contain.
Nah. Players are fully developed 18 games into their careers. And since Kreider is 22, he's on the downside of his career.

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02-19-2013, 02:29 PM
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Snow did that as a favor to Guerin, to keep him in the NE. Also, Visnovsky and Streit provide more than Guerin did, at least IMO.
I agree, just pointing out that the teams do talk. If the Rangers offered the best package I am sure the Islanders would take it.

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02-19-2013, 02:45 PM
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Nah. Players are fully developed 18 games into their careers. And since Kreider is 22, he's on the downside of his career.
Well then since he's already on the downslide just make it Diaz and a fifth instead of Diaz and a third. lol

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02-19-2013, 08:08 PM
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And now for something completely different:

W Taylor Pyatt, former 1st has some skill + basic ability
+ C Andrew Yogan (remembering him as) a 4th big C, track record as decent scorer
+ a third from 2013 (Rangers have what three of them?)
+ D Eminger (replacement depth)
for

D Paul Postma (he who is developing his dimensions, but already includes great righty shot)
Winn 2nd
Winn 6th

Gives Winn acceptable return, a complete guy w/flashes of scoring not expensive, also full sized prospect C with scoring touch, needs work, has potential + middle pick and depth for 7th D

Gives NY needed skater w/righty shot for PP, higher pick, lower pick


edit add
Stall does have a good hard shot he needs to work on
Staal L shot on PP
Postma complementary righty shot = great PP tandem


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02-19-2013, 08:20 PM
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And now for something completely different:

W Taylor Pyatt, former 1st has some skill + basic ability
+ C Andrew Yogan (remembering him as) a 4th big C, track record as decent scorer
+ a third from 2013 (Rangers have what three of them?)
+ D Eminger (replacement depth)
for

D Paul Postma (he who is developing his dimensions, but already includes great righty shot)
CBJ 2nd
CBJ 6th

Gives Col acceptable return, a complete guy w/flashes of scoring not expensive, also full sized prospect C with scoring touch, needs work, has potential + middle pick and depth for 7th D

Gives NY needed skater w/righty shot for PP, higher pick, lower pick


edit add
Stall does have a good hard shot he needs to work on
Staal L shot on PP
Postma complementary righty shot = great PP tandem
?

Postma is with the Jets...

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02-19-2013, 08:23 PM
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And now for something completely different:

W Taylor Pyatt, former 1st has some skill + basic ability
+ C Andrew Yogan (remembering him as) a 4th big C, track record as decent scorer
+ a third from 2013 (Rangers have what three of them?)
+ D Eminger (replacement depth)
for

D Paul Postma (he who is developing his dimensions, but already includes great righty shot)
CBJ 2nd
CBJ 6th

Gives Col acceptable return, a complete guy w/flashes of scoring not expensive, also full sized prospect C with scoring touch, needs work, has potential + middle pick and depth for 7th D

Gives NY needed skater w/righty shot for PP, higher pick, lower pick


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Stall does have a good hard shot he needs to work on
Staal L shot on PP
Postma complementary righty shot = great PP tandem
Postma plays for Winnipeg

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02-19-2013, 09:07 PM
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?

Postma is with the Jets...
Go get CBJ 2nd and 6th and trade would still work.

Btw, it's an easy no from rangers fans, either with the Jets or jackets.

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02-19-2013, 09:10 PM
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Go get CBJ 2nd and 6th and trade would still work.

Btw, it's an easy no from rangers fans, either with the Jets or jackets.
Postma could be moved, seeing as we have many RHD's right now

and he fills that role beautifly right now

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02-19-2013, 09:16 PM
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Postma could be moved, seeing as we have many RHD's right now

and he fills that role beautifly right now
A 3rd and Ryan Bourque for Postma is the offer on the table, have not heard back.

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02-19-2013, 09:28 PM
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And now for something completely different:

W Taylor Pyatt, former 1st has some skill + basic ability
+ C Andrew Yogan (remembering him as) a 4th big C, track record as decent scorer
+ a third from 2013 (Rangers have what three of them?)
+ D Eminger (replacement depth)
for

D Paul Postma (he who is developing his dimensions, but already includes great righty shot)
CBJ 2nd
CBJ 6th

Gives Col acceptable return, a complete guy w/flashes of scoring not expensive, also full sized prospect C with scoring touch, needs work, has potential + middle pick and depth for 7th D

Gives NY needed skater w/righty shot for PP, higher pick, lower pick


edit add
Stall does have a good hard shot he needs to work on
Staal L shot on PP
Postma complementary righty shot = great PP tandem
No offense to the pieces from the Rangers, but Pyatt, Yogan, and Eminger aren't upgrades on any pieces the team already has. If the team is dealing Postma, it's not because they are not happy with him, it's because they need to trade an asset to fill another hole.

A tough, LH, defenseman equivalent to Postma would be nice, or a RW. Otherwise I think they keep him. (unless an too good to be true offer of picks and prospects is offered obviously)

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A 3rd and Ryan Bourque for Postma is the offer on the table, have not heard back.
I wouldn't do it for my reasons above. Bourque doesn't offer us much in terms of something we don't already have. A 3rd is nice, but I think Postma is worth more than that. He's a young, very good skating, PMD, who's been an AHL all-star. Not saying he's going to be a great NHL'r, but he should return more than 3rd round picks and long shot prospects. Especially when the Jets don't really HAVE to trade him.


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02-19-2013, 09:40 PM
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I wouldn't do it for my reasons above. Bourque doesn't offer us much in terms of something we don't already have. A 3rd is nice, but I think Postma is worth more than that. He's a young, very good skating, PMD, who's been an AHL all-star. Not saying he's going to be a great NHL'r, but he should return more than 3rd round picks and long shot prospects. Especially when the Jets don't really HAVE to trade him.
Fair enough and I completely agree, if you are happy with him and he fills a need, then no need to move him.
For what the rangers need, stay at home, physical 6D, a 3rd is more than enough to get it somewhere else.

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Fair enough and I completely agree, if you are happy with him and he fills a need, then no need to move him.
For what the rangers need, stay at home, physical 6D, a 3rd is more than enough to get it somewhere else.
Totally understandable. Also, if you're looking for more of a stay at home physical D, Postma is defiantly not it.

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02-19-2013, 09:47 PM
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To NYR
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To MTL
Boyle


habs could use the size & faceoff ability down the middle (assuming they were convinced Boyle's ego would be ok with being firmly slotted on the 4th line).

Weber fits the OP's desired player to a tee... IMHO he will eventually be a regular top-4/5 dman, kid has great offensive skills and is quite competitive. Just needs some time to adjust his positional game to the NHL level and get some confidence going (like many smallish dmen). He's not nearly as one-dimensional or defensively inept as many other depth PP specialist dmen.

Boyle's more established, but like Weber has been in the press box quite a bit this year, and is 850K more expensive on the cap.

Rangers taking the bigger risk, but habs have less incentive to deal & less need... take it or leave it.

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I agree and the two franchises have a history of trading with each other as well. Could be a good fit.
Yeah...but Aucoin? Seriously? You guys have a bunch of PP specialists much better than him already? He's hardly played this year....and old as dirt

Now if you want a dude that can play and smoke the puck I'd go after Wisnewski.

But that will probably cost a bit. I think he leads the CBJ in goals (all on PP).

Huge shot for sure.

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To MTL
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habs could use the size & faceoff ability down the middle (assuming they were convinced Boyle's ego would be ok with being firmly slotted on the 4th line).

Weber fits the OP's desired player to a tee... IMHO he will eventually be a regular top-4/5 dman, kid has great offensive skills and is quite competitive. Just needs some time to adjust his positional game to the NHL level and get some confidence going (like many smallish dmen). He's not nearly as one-dimensional or defensively inept as many other depth PP specialist dmen.

Boyle's more established, but like Weber has been in the press box quite a bit this year, and is 850K more expensive on the cap.

Rangers taking the bigger risk, but habs have less incentive to deal & less need... take it or leave it.
Rangers said no to this offer many times.

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If you are just looking for a big shot Webber would be ideal
If you need someone to control the PP and feed the puck Kaberle is your man

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Yeah...but Aucoin? Seriously? You guys have a bunch of PP specialists much better than him already? He's hardly played this year....and old as dirt

Now if you want a dude that can play and smoke the puck I'd go after Wisnewski.

But that will probably cost a bit. I think he leads the CBJ in goals (all on PP).

Huge shot for sure.
They don't need a Wisniewski right now, they need a cheap bottom pairing guy, that's why Aucoin's name came up. We know he has a shot, which is also what they need.

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He's seen the powerplay, but it hasn't been very consistent. He's had a few games with a couple minutes of PP time, a few with 30 seconds to a minute and a few with nothing. I agree that he should get more of a chance, though. He had a beaut of an assist on Miller's power play goal against the Isles a few games back.

I want to see McD and MDZ on the ice together with the first unit and Staal/Stral on with the second unit.
He BARELY sees the power play, if at all. The first unit is usually the big 3, Stepan and MDZ. I don't like Stepan on the 1st unit.

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And now for something completely different:

W Taylor Pyatt, former 1st has some skill + basic ability
+ C Andrew Yogan (remembering him as) a 4th big C, track record as decent scorer
+ a third from 2013 (Rangers have what three of them?)
+ D Eminger (replacement depth)
for

D Paul Postma (he who is developing his dimensions, but already includes great righty shot)
CBJ 2nd
CBJ 6th

Gives Col acceptable return, a complete guy w/flashes of scoring not expensive, also full sized prospect C with scoring touch, needs work, has potential + middle pick and depth for 7th D

Gives NY needed skater w/righty shot for PP, higher pick, lower pick


edit add
Stall does have a good hard shot he needs to work on
Staal L shot on PP
Postma complementary righty shot = great PP tandem
If you want people to take you seriously, do some homework and figure out which team the player you're targeting plays for. Then, post your lopsided, ridiculous proposal. There's a reason why your proposals are constantly mocked by literally, everyone.

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Postma is with the Jets...
Thank you. My apology. I have corrected.

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Postma plays for Winnipeg
Thank you. My apology. I have corrected.

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habs could use the size & faceoff ability down the middle (assuming they were convinced Boyle's ego would be ok with being firmly slotted on the 4th line).

Weber fits the OP's desired player to a tee... IMHO he will eventually be a regular top-4/5 dman, kid has great offensive skills and is quite competitive. Just needs some time to adjust his positional game to the NHL level and get some confidence going (like many smallish dmen). He's not nearly as one-dimensional or defensively inept as many other depth PP specialist dmen.

Boyle's more established, but like Weber has been in the press box quite a bit this year, and is 850K more expensive on the cap.

Rangers taking the bigger risk, but habs have less incentive to deal & less need... take it or leave it.
Counter. Weber for a 5th.

Why ? Weber has a big shot and sucks in every other aspect.

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