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Canadiens @ Rangers 2/19/13 - Moar Icing

View Poll Results: Three Stars of the Game?
Derek Stepan 31 28.70%
Carl Hagelin 56 51.85%
Marian Gaborik 2 1.85%
Chris Kreider 5 4.63%
JT Miller 1 0.93%
Brandon Mashinter 10 9.26%
Arron Asham 3 2.78%
Ryan McDonagh 5 4.63%
Montreal's Icings 47 43.52%
Henrik Lundqvist 15 13.89%
Martin Biron 12 11.11%
Anton Stralman 36 33.33%
Marc Staal 2 1.85%
Brad Richards 12 11.11%
Michael Del Zotto 3 2.78%
Taylor Pyatt 1 0.93%
Dan Girardi 1 0.93%
Matt Gilroy 1 0.93%
Jeff Halpern 3 2.78%
Ryan Callahan 7 6.48%
Bwian Bwoyle 9 8.33%
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02-19-2013, 09:31 PM
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Is it wrong for me to remain optimistic that Richards will get his **** together when it matters most?

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Is it wrong for me to remain optimistic that Richards will get his **** together when it matters most?
No. I feel the same way. I'm just sad cuz I've been feeling that for the last 5 games or so.

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Right about now, I'd put up Torts and Sully up on the chopping block before Richards and Gaborik.

How many more players have to come and go before Torts finally gets it right?
This team is a hodgepodge of player-styles. They don't mesh.

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Is it wrong for me to remain optimistic that Richards will get his **** together when it matters most?
Yes. Very, very wrong.

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The big difference I see is the lack of hustle. Last year, your guys were buzzing around the puck and harrassing the puck carrier every second of the game. This season there seems to be a lot of gliding around on the ice, like everyone is waiting for someone else to forecheck and make the plays.

Rangers need to get back to the lunchpail attitude.

....just, wait until after the Sens game on Thursday to get back on track.

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What the hell were they thinking on the 3rd period PP. Open shots on point and halfboard, yet pass to a guy in the middle of the ice on his backhand. Yeah, such a genius idea they did it a second time.

Idiots.

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Yes. Very, very wrong.
Well, he's here for at least the rest of this season.

Gotta believe, man! Rally time! Gut check!

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The big difference I see is the lack of hustle. Last year, your guys were buzzing around the puck and harrassing the puck carrier every second of the game. This season there seems to be a lot of gliding around on the ice, like everyone is waiting for someone else to forecheck and make the plays.

Rangers need to get back to the lunchpail attitude.

....just, wait until after the Sens game on Thursday to get back on track.
Faulty logic, we're in Montreal on Saturday.

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This team needed a spark tonight, there was no one to provide it.

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Is it wrong for me to remain optimistic that Richards will get his **** together when it matters most?
i feel the same way, but it would be nice for gaborik to get his head out of his ass and maybe work up a sweat out there to help richards maybe break out of a slump by scoring a goal or playing like some sort of a threat, itd be alot easier for richards to have room out there to do his thing if defenders have the threat of gaborik in the back of their minds at all times, right now imo their both viewed as pretty average and certainly not dangerous players by any means.

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This team is a hodgepodge of player-styles. They don't mesh.
Wasn't Torts who wanted Gaborik and Gomez out? Didn't he put his two cents with regards to Richards? How much more does he need, especially with Nash in the picture?

Is it so hard to tell one line to do this and the other to do this? You guys go ****ing flying in and you pound on the puck; you guys grind it out along the boards and clog up the neutral zone.

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Horrible game, but not even the worst game we've played against Montreal since the lockout ended.

There's too much talent on the team to continue to struggle and the powerplay has to improve simply because it is playing at an unsustainably bad level. A broken clock is right twice a day and most NHL teams'll convert 15% of their powerplays.

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Is it wrong for me to remain optimistic that Richards will get his **** together when it matters most?
Eh, I still am. It seems more likely that he's struggling to get going with an odd season than that he's completely lost his touch.

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Horrible game, but not even the worst game we've played against Montreal since the lockout ended.

There's too much talent on the team to continue to struggle and the powerplay has to improve simply because it is playing at an unsustainably bad level. A broken clock is right twice a day and most NHL teams'll convert 15% of their powerplays.
You have to shoot to convert. Not only do they not shoot, they pass it right to the other team.

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Faulty logic, we're in Montreal on Saturday.
Faulty logic because we're playing a hockey game, something this team obviously isn't capable of.

Maybe we should sign up for the NBA. Boyle would be our best player.

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Wasn't Torts who wanted Gaborik and Gomez out? Didn't he put his two cents with regards to Richards? How much more does he need, especially with Nash in the picture?

Is it so hard to tell one line to do this and the other to do this? You guys go ****ing flying in and you pound on the puck; you guys grind it out along the boards and clog up the neutral zone.
I believe Torts just didn't want Gomez. Sather decided on Gaborik, he isn't exactly Torts-like player.

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Wasn't Torts who wanted Gaborik and Gomez out? Didn't he put his two cents with regards to Richards? How much more does he need, especially with Nash in the picture?

Is it so hard to tell one line to do this and the other to do this? You guys go ****ing flying in and you pound on the puck; you guys grind it out along the boards and clog up the neutral zone.
Tortorella was the coach when we signed Gaborik....

Tortorella was hired in the middle of the '08-'09 season, Gaborik's first in NY was '09-'10.

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I believe Torts just didn't want Gomez. Sather decided on Gaborik, he isn't exactly Torts-like player.
You're still left with albatross Richards.

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Tortorella was the coach when we signed Gaborik....

Tortorella was hired in the middle of the '08-'09 season, Gaborik's first in NY was '09-'10.
I am aware.

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Team was indulgent which lead to slopiness. Torts will/should bench one of the underperforming players like he did with Boyle and send a message to his team. Not panicking, really. 6-3-1 in the last 10.

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I have been calling fo this for months. It's not a knee-jerk reaction on my part. When your highest paid players lack th ability or drive to be difference-makers in multiple ways your team will be inconsistent.
It just seems to me like every game it's the same thing. Sure, Gabs has good games and he can score a bunch of goals (albeit 3 or 4 in one game and then nothing for 15 games until his next 3 or 4 goal game) and his ability to score would make his value high. He would grab a hefty return. Richards could as well because a lot of people, including myself, think he still has some life in him, maybe he could go back to being the 80-90 point guy on another team, but I don't see that here anymore. With every game that passes it;s still the same old song and dance with them, I think change would do us (and them) some good.

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Tortorella was the coach when we signed Gaborik....

Tortorella was hired in the middle of the '08-'09 season, Gaborik's first in NY was '09-'10.
Agree, but at the same time, Gaborik is not a Torts kind of guy. I think he would agree to shop him and see what we could snag for him.

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I admit I'm quick to bash the guy because I have a short temper when we are losing, but I really truly believe that Richards will get it going. He's putting too much pressure on himself on the PP it's obvious when he tries to force a pass or a shot that isn't there. That's not his game. Last year, he rarely made the wrong play. He showed some brilliant vision and shooting accuracy. Both of those attributes have seemed to virtually evaporate from his arsenal. He looks different out there, not him being unskilled though. It's a lack of confidence.

Tonight he only brought it for the first period and then was probably the worst player on the ice from that point on. Whatever the case may be, he needs to start leading. That's the bottom line.

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I honestly doubt Richards is a Ranger past this season. The poor guy just doesn't have his legs under him anymore. For whoever has actually played competitive hockey here, you know that once you are fatigued, you aren't making any more tape tot ape passes/ breakaway bursts of speed/ hustling back as much on the backcheck. The poor dude is gliding all around the ice without a care in the world until he gets the puck. Did you catch him get outmuscled by Plekanec? The guy made Richards look FOOLISH. What a terrible problem he has become, after being so clutch for us and one of our leading scorers. Enough is enough. Either start running on the treadmill every day, going jogging with the team, do cardio exercise or continue to mail it in and pretty much show a huge middle finger to the whole organization and fanbase. The same one who is paying him $12 Million this season for floating around the ice and falling down and getting outmuscled all over the ice. Until he finds his legs, he will continue to be useless. Torts s still completely mismanaging Gaborik's game He is not a good player against the boards. We need him to be the one that shoots, not carry the puck in the zone. If these two start producing, we will finally have our first view of a true NYR contender night in, night out.

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I love Maloneys post game comment " Rangers didn't make many mistakes, but you have to be doing something to make a mistake"
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The good: Very little - Hagelin and Stepan showing they can play, and it isn't just Nash making them look good.

The bad: Montreal had like three scoring chances and scored twice. We had the puck the whole game and can't do anything. I thought Lundqvist was pretty ordinary, wouldn't be surprised if part of it was he hurt his shoulder on the Subhan shot.

The Redden: It's a broken record, but the power play is awful. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass............lose the puck, take forever to come up the ice, lose the puck, take a crappy shot with no one in front of the net, lose the puck........

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