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02-19-2013, 10:28 PM
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a) Marchand
b) Kelly
c) Offense (including power play)
d) C-. Getting the wins, but barely
e) They do seem complacent, however this will hopefully go away in the playoffs

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02-19-2013, 11:32 PM
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1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

1) Krejci. The most consistent creator of chances in the team (despite a recent fall-off), and has been hitting on both ends of the rink. The Krejci-Seguin combo was a tease that I'd like to see consummated.
2) Marchand: Best shooting % in the whole league. Nuff said.
3) (Tied) Hamilton and Boychuk: Dougie, for showing a degree of poise on the puck and hockey IQ that's rare in a rookie. Boychuk: for putting his body on the line, and a real zeal for jumping into offense that often enough (e.g. Winnipeg) pays off.

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

1) Chara: I love the Slovak colossus, but he has made me groan and grimace way too many times this quarter season. He seems anxious out there, uneasy, and unable to make good, quick decisions. It worries me.
2) Ference: He was always physically small out there (relative to other B's D-men, certainly), but now he's actually playing small. I think he's one guy who would greatly benefit from a really angry, fight-filled game. Andrew is at best when he's pissed off, which in the past has led to either dropping the gloves for his teammates, ripping off a poison-tipped slapshot, or flipping off an entire arena.
3) Kelly. He can be such a force when he's on. I know his line hasn't clicked yet but still, c'mon.... Chris, where are you? Also: he's made some flat-out bad plays and giveaways, highly uncharacteristic for him.

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

Glaring Thing 1: The D-men are allowing opponents to loiter and lounge in the crease with far too much ease, and Chara is playing hesitant, mistake-laden hockey.

Glaring Thing 2: 3rd and 4th lines are offensively challenged (which is not to take away from their PK specialists' great body of work), and Kelly in particular has disappeared.

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?

B- There have been some A+ moments, but only one full A period (and that was in the first game, IIRC). Many of the periods have been C or worse, but the team has maintained a decent record nonetheless, thanks to goaltending and third period surges (which only remind us of what they're capable of).

With that said, I'm still enjoying the hell out of watching them, and I still see evidence of a team with great character.


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02-19-2013, 11:52 PM
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Debated on starting this thread. Probably could put this into many threads. Mods can lock if they feel this is overkill.

But a 1/4 of the season is now over so I'm wondering what the answers will be to these questions.

1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?
1. Dougie

2. I want to say Seguin, but I really don't think he is playing bad. I just expected him to have a few more goals by now.

3. Their powerplay...as usual. It sucks.

4. A-. Those Buffalo games were painful to watch and their powerplay is terrible...just terrible.

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Seeing grades of C from a number of you guys. Tough crowd considering the team is 9-2-2.

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02-20-2013, 12:03 AM
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Wow. After posting this I've gone back to read the rest of the replies, and I gotta say, I'm amazed at the unanimity on this board.

Marchand, Krejci, Dougie & Rask, either apart or in combinations, are pretty much the only mentioned for the "most impressive" nominations, while Chara, Ference & Kelly have been the mantras for the opposite. The # of exceptions is tiny (e.g. I think I'm the only who has nom'd Boychuk as one of the most impressive, and only one person nom'd McQuaid for the same).

Did a lot of people read other replies before posting, and so were somewhat influenced, or do we really all perceive things so similarly? Is this a case of incontrovertible facts "out there" in objective reality, or of a hive mind, whereby we've already subtly influenced each other through previous exchanges on the board.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Debated on starting this thread. Probably could put this into many threads. Mods can lock if they feel this is overkill.

But a 1/4 of the season is now over so I'm wondering what the answers will be to these questions.

1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?
1. Hamilton. He wasn't great at the World Juniors and I expected him to struggle more physically as well as adapting to the NHL. He has looked poised and like a vet from day 1 and his up ice passing has been very refreshing and benefitial.

HM: Rask. Has been rock solid.

2. Kelly.

3. The third line needs help.

HM: the consistent lack of finish.

4. B+. They have played decent, aren't blowing anyone away but are getting the job done. By record it should be an A but I don't think they have played to an A.

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02-20-2013, 01:56 AM
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Seeing grades of C from a number of you guys. Tough crowd considering the team is 9-2-2.
Well, if the way they're playing right now is A or B, then good night Boston Bruins.
They were well rested for all of the games safe for that back-to-back and yet they barely win.
Yes, they won 9 games, but imo there wasn't a single decisive/clear win.
This team doesn't score enough, the PP sucks, they don't play physical, never have more than one or maybe two lines producing. The D looks awful at times. How to give them an A?

The way they played last season in November/December ... THAT would have earned them an A. Are we being even close to that? Don't think so.


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1. Paille has been very solid. Hamilton looks like he will be a good one.

2. Kelly has been disappointing...as has Thornton and Campbell.

3. As always - THE POWERPLAY. Besides that - we seem to lack some toughness for some reason.

4. A solid B.

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Debated on starting this thread. Probably could put this into many threads. Mods can lock if they feel this is overkill.

But a 1/4 of the season is now over so I'm wondering what the answers will be to these questions.

1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?

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1. Paille has been very solid.
Absolutely agree with this. This guy goes about his business and gives a quality effort every night. He likely feels that he belongs on the 3rd line LW (as do I) but does whats asked of him. This is a guy I wouldn't mind seeing signed long-term.

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Wow. After posting this I've gone back to read the rest of the replies, and I gotta say, I'm amazed at the unanimity on this board.

Did a lot of people read other replies before posting, and so were somewhat influenced, or do we really all perceive things so similarly?
Makes me wonder as well. Honestly, I get the Chara thing, not so much the Ference and Kelly votes. Especially the Kelly votes.

The question is, who has impressed least? Did folks really expect a third liner to be "impressive"? Could he be better? Yes. But least impressive? I think that's harsh for a third liner.

I voted Seguin, because frankly I think he has been one of the least impressive players on the team given the level of play everyone is expecting of him, especially in this third season of play, especially following his success in Switzerland. This is not a vote to put him on the trading block, mind you. However, he is a guy many if not all here thought was going to explode into a player fitting all expectations, and he hasn't approached that even a little. I find his play very unimpressive.

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02-20-2013, 08:42 AM
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1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

Dougie Hamilton easily. He's made the rookie mistakes we all expected him to, all while still playing like a vet the majority of the time and putting up some nice points too. The most important thing: he is far better than joe corvo so our defense has been immediately upgraded this year with his addition

Marchand has been off to a hotter start than I would have expected, Lucic seems to be playing with snarl, that's good to see

Boychuk is underrated

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

Seguin has been picking it up as of late but he'll have to continue that to stay off this list

I've been underwhelmed by Kelly, Peverley, and Chara. Bourque I think is trying his best and adjusting

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

Too passive at times. But nothing alarming

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?[/QUOTE]

B. What can I say, they are 9-2-2. But clearly are capable of more

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Seeing grades of C from a number of you guys. Tough crowd considering the team is 9-2-2.
That's because I don't think the level of play has been as good as their record. I think they've won a lot of games where they took periods off, and they've stolen points in games where they had no right doing so. So while they've been grabbing points on a regular basis, I think they have yet to really hit their stride as a team, which is a good thing if you're a fan...

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That's because I don't think the level of play has been as good as their record. I think they've won a lot of games where they took periods off, and they've stolen points in games where they had no right doing so. So while they've been grabbing points on a regular basis, I think they have yet to really hit their stride as a team, which is a good thing if you're a fan...
Can't wait to see this place if to your point (which is a good one) they break out in a few games, but have a few close ones stolen from them. The same that are saying A, A+ will be giving them C, C- if they go 7-6-1 in their next 13 but have a goal differential in the teens.

I said earlier they've been a B, I think they're snakebit shooting wise and that's brought down the goal differential. But at the same time they're like a kid getting B's in honors classes. Smart kid, would get A's everywhere else, but the expectations are different.

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1. Who has most impressed you so far ?
Lucic, is in better shape than I thought he would be.

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?
Bergeron, McQuaid, Boychuk, Chara, Kelly

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?
The soft and tentative play

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?
C, they should be playing much better, disregarding the standings.

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The thing i find odd here is people naming Bergeron in the least impressed spot.... I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion, but i would like the few people to expand on that opinion because I really dont understand it. I mean the guy hasnt been our best player on every night which he usually is but he has 9 points in 13 games tied for second on the team, is a +7 good for second on the team, probably the best center in the NHL this season in faceoffs, and on top of that is still easily the best defensive forward on one of if not the best defensive team in the league. The only thing that he is struggling at imo is finishing (ie our whole team).

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Can't wait to see this place if to your point (which is a good one) they break out in a few games, but have a few close ones stolen from them. The same that are saying A, A+ will be giving them C, C- if they go 7-6-1 in their next 13 but have a goal differential in the teens.

I said earlier they've been a B, I think they're snakebit shooting wise and that's brought down the goal differential. But at the same time they're like a kid getting B's in honors classes. Smart kid, would get A's everywhere else, but the expectations are different.
Yup. This place can be a little bit bipolar at times.

It comes with the territory of being die hard fans though, so I typically just ignore it. They've sucked offensively (at least to what I expected), IMO, but that has to break at some point. They can't be this inept when they have so much talent. I really do think things will suddenly start clicking for them, and when that happens, they're going to start rolling teams. I just hope they don't get hot too early and then fade by the playoffs. The key is to sustain a high level of play going into them...

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I'm thinking bourque will replace Peverly in the long run. He's half the price and brought an equal game this year- an won the first line job from him the other night.

Before you flame away it might be worth looking at peverly a first 20 or so games in Boston.

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Makes me wonder as well. Honestly, I get the Chara thing, not so much the Ference and Kelly votes. Especially the Kelly votes.

The question is, who has impressed least? Did folks really expect a third liner to be "impressive"? Could he be better? Yes. But least impressive? I think that's harsh for a third liner.

I voted Seguin, because frankly I think he has been one of the least impressive players on the team given the level of play everyone is expecting of him, especially in this third season of play, especially following his success in Switzerland. This is not a vote to put him on the trading block, mind you. However, he is a guy many if not all here thought was going to explode into a player fitting all expectations, and he hasn't approached that even a little. I find his play very unimpressive.
Fair points, ReggieMoto. I was among those who included Kelly in the "least impressive" category, so I'll try to respond.

For my part at least, this is a compliment to Kelly. Prior to this season, #23 has shown us precisely how a third liner can be impressive. He has seemed to always make the right play, his stick's always in the right place, and he digs and forechecks as hard as his frame allows. He is the personification of the B's much vaunted depth, and the embodiment of the core Julien values of hard work, responsibility, and teamwork. In the 2011 playoffs, behind his cage, he was stellar; heroic.

So in a sense Kelly is now a victim of the standard he himself established. Much in the way you expect a lot more out of Seguin, many others have come to expect a lot out of CK (the difference being that CK has actually already consistently demonstrated his potential to us, whereas Seguin's has yet to fully manifest -we hope), and since this is the B's, a team built on depth, it's entirely apt that we look to be impressed by third-liners.

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Yup. This place can be a little bit bipolar at times.

It comes with the territory of being die hard fans though, so I typically just ignore it. They've sucked offensively (at least to what I expected), IMO, but that has to break at some point. They can't be this inept when they have so much talent. I really do think things will suddenly start clicking for them, and when that happens, they're going to start rolling teams. I just hope they don't get hot too early and then fade by the playoffs. The key is to sustain a high level of play going into them...
What I'd like them to do is rip off a stretch of say 5-2-1 when the pucks drop, get themselves into clear playoff position and then systematically pull back on some of their key guys down the stretch. I'm fine with entering the post season as a healthy 3-4 seed vs. a drained #1.

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Happy with the pts. Team has some issues, but issues I have nothing but confidence they'll turn around. Best news, they haven't played close to their capabilities, once this happens (assuming it will), could be a fun season.

East wide open again, Pittsburgh probably the most talented but Fleury allows so many softies I'm never able to call them the favs.

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That's because I don't think the level of play has been as good as their record. I think they've won a lot of games where they took periods off, and they've stolen points in games where they had no right doing so. So while they've been grabbing points on a regular basis, I think they have yet to really hit their stride as a team, which is a good thing if you're a fan...
While I agree with your point about them not hitting their stride yet, I don't think it's fair to give them a C based on how they should be playing. They have done enough to earn points in 11 out of 13 games, while there is room for improvement, they have found ways to win despite not playing their best. Aside from their terrible powerplay, they have looked good for the most part. A win is a win in my book, don't care how they do it.

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Debated on starting this thread. Probably could put this into many threads. Mods can lock if they feel this is overkill.

But a 1/4 of the season is now over so I'm wondering what the answers will be to these questions.

1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at

Could the fact this team has been together for so long be hurting the team ? Whats that saying about being content.....
1. Marchand. He's always had the talent to score but by God, he's doing it at THE most clutch times. A goal under a minute left to tie it up has all the pressure in the world versus a goal when you're down 4-0. He's right there at the time you need a goal the most.

2. Chara. It's not even the mistakes he's making, it's that he's just not there. Invisible. I realize that's sometimes what you want from a defender, but he's capable of being more than that. He's just not exerting the game-changing type influence he has demonstrated in the past consistently.

3. Power play....and when I say that, I don't mean the lack of goal output....I mean the basic movement and opportunities to put the puck on net. Cycle, rinse, repeat. Too many passes, not enough shots, as if waiting for the perfect shot...that's not always available.

4. B- I expect to see more offense from this team. Defense and (especially) goaltending, I'm good.

5. Um....there's so many intangibles that comes from a lockout shortened season that I don't know if I'd call it complacency. Knowing your teammates is important....I look at a team like a Minnesota, with their big FA acquisitions and how they're struggling because they don't know and haven't played long with each other. I think all these Bruins want a cup and aren't complacent in that way. I think they've run into some tough matchups, and I'm not altogether too worried just yet.

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1. Who has most impressed you so far ?

1. Dougie Hamilton 2. David Krejci 3. Brad Marchand 4. Tuukka Rask 5. Daniel Paille


2. Other then Bourque(LOL) who has least impressed you ?

1. Kelly 2. Ference 3. Peverley 4. Chara 5. Thorton

3. Is there 1 glaring thing that scares you about the Bruins play so far ?

1. Powerplay 2. Passive Hockey- No Hitting 3. No Offensive Creativity 4. Killer Instinct

4. Using the A,B,C scale like in school, where do you feel the Bruins are playing at ?

Yes, they are 9-2-2, but have not played inspired hockey B-

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1. David Krejci - he is off to a PPG start.

2. Chris Kelly - He definitely isnt earning that 3M/year NTC.

3. Lack of Offense - I have never seen a team struggle so much to bury their chances. Sometimes there are moments where i feel like we are the only team that cant score on a gaping net.

4. I give them a C. Yea they are 9-2-2 but for the most part it has been goaltending bailing them out, they are playing .500 hockey at best

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