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02-20-2013, 02:24 PM
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So how about:
Elliott, O'Reilly, 1st
Carlson, Johansson, 2nd
absolutely no chance we add a first.

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absolutely no chance we add a first.
But we add a second, it wasn't in the original deal, too.

Listen, Johansson and Carlson for O'Reilly and Elliott is lopsided. You've gotta give something more. We either pull Johansson from the deal and get a 1st for him alone somewhere else or we keep him in, add a second and you add a first.
Think if it this way:
Johansson + 2nd = 1st
Carlson = O'Reilly + Elliott.

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But we add a second, it wasn't in the original deal, too.

Listen, Johansson and Carlson for O'Reilly and Elliott is lopsided. You've gotta give something more. We either pull Johansson from the deal and get a 1st for him alone somewhere else or we keep him in, add a second and you add a first.
Think if it this way:
Johansson + 2nd = 1st
Carlson = O'Reilly + Elliott.
No thanks there jeffy.
Johansen and a second isn't worth a potential top ten pick. I don't think Carlson is worth more than O'reilly, especially with Elliot as the plus.

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No thanks there jeffy.
Johansen and a second isn't worth a potential top ten pick. I don't think Carlson is worth more than O'reilly, especially with Elliot as the plus.
I don't know where to start. It's just
BTW, what if we make that first Duncan Siemens? Or Joey Hishon?

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I don't know where to start. It's just
BTW, what if we make that first Duncan Siemens? Or Joey Hishon?
If you make it a first or Siemens, we want Alzner back - otherwise it's a no-go. Not saying the value would be that off but if we give up RoR, Elliott and a 1st/Siemens I'd want a top pairing shutdown dman back and not Carlson. I am confident Barrie turns into a Carlson kind of player sooner or later and I'm willing to wait for this to happen.
I'd rather take out Johansson and do that package for Alzner + 2nd round pick.

If it's not of interest for Washington to give up Alzner I can understand that and simply guess we would not be good trading partners.


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I don't know where to start. It's just
BTW, what if we make that first Duncan Siemens? Or Joey Hishon?
No to Siemens for sure. Hishon is a wild card, if he ever recovers from his concussion I seem him as being a more skilled Marchand who would be much more valuable than Johansen. We don't need Johansen.

We definitely wouldn't add to ROR for Carlson. I know Carlson has alot of potential and Dmen are worth more than forwards. But O'reilly plays and competes like a cup winner and at the moment Carlson is a little sloppy.

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Like others have said, for the Caps there are other PMD's after Carlson. After Alzner though....there is....Schultz? Ya big no go.

I honestly haven't seen enough of ROR to justify Carlson for him. I'd rather resign Ribs for nothing and add a winger in the offseason.

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No to Siemens for sure. Hishon is a wild card, if he ever recovers from his concussion I seem him as being a more skilled Marchand who would be much more valuable than Johansen. We don't need Johansen.

We definitely wouldn't add to ROR for Carlson. I know Carlson has alot of potential and Dmen are worth more than forwards. But O'reilly plays and competes like a cup winner and at the moment Carlson is a little sloppy.
If we talk about "at the moment", O'Reilly isn't playing or competing at all. At the moment, he's got the reputation against him and against his trade value. So no matter how bad Carlson was in those 15 games after 9 months of not playing hockey, the fact that he played in them makes him way more attractive of a trade chip than ROR is. Anyway, it was an Avs fan starting this thread. We'll get back at you if we trade Ribeiro

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