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02-20-2013, 05:27 PM
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Oilers/Jets

To Jets:
Eberle
Petry
2nd round pick

To Oilers:
Kane
Bogosian

Oilers get the better defenceman and size. Jets get the better forward and a "face of the franchise" player. Petry a good second pairing guy.

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02-20-2013, 05:29 PM
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Eberle is better than Kane, but not by much.

Bogosian>>>>>>> than Petry/2cd.

Not even close to a fair trade

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02-20-2013, 05:29 PM
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As much as I like Eberle there's absolutely no chance that he gets Kane AND Bogo.

Jets easily say no.

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if kane wasnt such a knob then i owuld think about it but the character issues compared to eberles compete level makes it not worth it to me.

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02-20-2013, 05:45 PM
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if kane wasnt such a knob then i owuld think about it but the character issues compared to eberles compete level makes it not worth it to me.
Kane gets a bad rep off the ice (somewhat deserved, somewhat overblown) but no one has ever questioned his compete level on the ice.

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02-20-2013, 05:49 PM
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Eberle is sick but not Kane and Bogosian sick. Bogo is turning into one heck of a defenseman, I doubt either are going anywhere soon. Not with this return anyway.

Oil and Jets are pretty bad trade partners if I recall.

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02-20-2013, 05:53 PM
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Eberle is fantastic and a fair bit better than Kane but not by the amount it would take to bridge the enormous gap between Bogosian and Petry, even with a pick. Bogosian is our best defencemen and I would argue probably our most important player going forward.


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Jets respectfully say no.

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02-20-2013, 06:16 PM
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if kane wasnt such a knob then i owuld think about it but the character issues compared to eberles compete level makes it not worth it to me.
Compete level?

From all the Oilers games I've seen this year, he's one of the laziest players on the team.

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02-20-2013, 06:31 PM
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Easy no from the Jets. From their perspective Bogosian is the more valuable of the two players they're giving up, and it's unlikely they'd even do Bogosian for Eberle straight up. After that, Kane for Petry and a 2nd makes it a lot worse.

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02-20-2013, 06:32 PM
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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil

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02-20-2013, 06:36 PM
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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil
I'm a big oilers fan and Eberle is my favourite player but jets get hosed in this deal

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02-20-2013, 06:40 PM
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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil
I disagree. I believe Edmonton is getting the better deal in this one (not convinced with Petry at all). Maybe something like:

Eberle
Klefbom
+? (2nd?)

for

Kane
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would be fairer?

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02-20-2013, 06:41 PM
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How about this:

Eberle + Petry for Buff + Wheeler + 2nd rounder

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02-20-2013, 06:47 PM
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I disagree. I believe Edmonton is getting the better deal in this one (not convinced with Petry). Maybe something like:

Eberle
Klefbom
2nd

for

Kane
Bogosian

would be fairer?
Bogosian is a non-starter for the Jets. If Bogosian goes the return needs to be a big, young, center that is close to being a first liner, or a big, young, defensively reliable defenceman that is close to being a #1. Bogosian is, for all intents and purposes, the later so it really only makes sense for them to move him for the former.

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02-20-2013, 06:47 PM
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EDM and Jets actually do make good trading partners. I went to the Jets and Bruins game and the guys I was with agreed that their top 6 need more skill, a player like Hemsky. The problems is what would the Jets give up for him.

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02-20-2013, 07:23 PM
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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil
Being the best Oilers defenceman is not really saying much. The Jets have three Dmen better than Petry. Bogosian is the Jets best Dman as well. While Petry was breaking into the NHL last year at 24 Bogosian was playing 23 minutes against other teams top lines. Doing this he got 5 more points in 8 less games than Petry. While being 3 years younger. Bogosian has more points in 3 games played this year than Petry has in 15. Take off your homer glasses dude.

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02-20-2013, 07:31 PM
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EDM and Jets actually do make good trading partners. I went to the Jets and Bruins game and the guys I was with agreed that their top 6 need more skill, a player like Hemsky. The problems is what would the Jets give up for him.
I think Hemsky is a great player, but he's made of glass.

Winnipeg isn't a "buying" team. The Jets are looking for young players to add to a young core. This is what makes them and the Oilers poor trading partners as they're both looking to acquire similar assets.

As for the OP: Bogosian is near sainthood in Winnipeg. He's almost a total non-starter.

Also the offer is bad and you should feel bad.

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02-20-2013, 08:23 PM
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I love Eberle, but not for Kane and Bogo

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Being the best Oilers defenceman is not really saying much. The Jets have three Dmen better than Petry. Bogosian is the Jets best Dman as well. While Petry was breaking into the NHL last year at 24 Bogosian was playing 23 minutes against other teams top lines. Doing this he got 5 more points in 8 less games than Petry. While being 3 years younger. Bogosian has more points in 3 games played this year than Petry has in 15. Take off your homer glasses dude.
It's funny because it's true.

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Compete level?

From all the Oilers games I've seen this year, he's one of the laziest players on the team.
You are watching the wrong team. Kane plays for the Jets

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02-20-2013, 08:32 PM
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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil
Am I in the twilight zone?

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02-20-2013, 08:40 PM
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Eberle is better than Kane, but not by much.

Bogosian>>>>>>> than Petry/2cd.

Not even close to a fair trade
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Eberle is fantastic and a fair bit better than Kane but not by the amount it would take to bridge the enormous gap between Bogosian and Petry, even with a pick. Bogosian is our best defencemen and I would argue probably our most important player going forward.
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Easy no from the Jets. From their perspective Bogosian is the more valuable of the two players they're giving up, and it's unlikely they'd even do Bogosian for Eberle straight up. After that, Kane for Petry and a 2nd makes it a lot worse.
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Bogosian is a non-starter for the Jets. If Bogosian goes the return needs to be a big, young, center that is close to being a first liner, or a big, young, defensively reliable defenceman that is close to being a #1. Bogosian is, for all intents and purposes, the later so it really only makes sense for them to move him for the former.
Agreed. Bogosian is an absolute non starter and both deals that include him are not good for the Jets.

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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil
So...
For eberle and petry we need to give up kane, bogo, and trouba or 1st?

Over rating your "best" d man (quite) a bit me thinks.

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You guys must not watch many Oiler games. Petry is the best defensemen on the Oilers. No way Bogosian is worth giving up Petry. And Eberle is the next Captain. Maybe if you added Trouba or their 1st round pick. Otherwise not even close to enough coming back to the Oil
Am I in the twilight zone?

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