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02-20-2013, 04:51 PM
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Forget ROR, we need a David Clarkson guy along with a big mean defenceman that can play 15mins a night
Isn't Fistric that d-man?

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02-20-2013, 05:06 PM
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I'm starting to get sick of all this ROR hype. Guy had 1 good season which probably had more to do with Landeskog playing on his wing then his actual skill level.

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02-20-2013, 05:18 PM
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I'm starting to get sick of all this ROR hype. Guy had 1 good season which probably had more to do with Landeskog playing on his wing then his actual skill level.
what I find even more disturbing than the one good season, as a good career has to start somewhere, is that he is not even having that good of a season in Russia.

He is at a .5ppg pace in the KHL.

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02-20-2013, 05:27 PM
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What do you guys think of the Oilers picking up Nino Niederreiter? His size is something we need and he really fits in well with the age group. He did ask for a trade out of Long Island and I couldn't see why he wouldn't fit here. The big reason is where would he go? IDK where he'd fit in the top 6, maybe if we rotate some players or something. And what would we give up? It's an idea to be thought about I think though.

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02-20-2013, 05:48 PM
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What do you guys think of the Oilers picking up Nino Niederreiter? His size is something we need and he really fits in well with the age group. He did ask for a trade out of Long Island and I couldn't see why he wouldn't fit here. The big reason is where would he go? IDK where he'd fit in the top 6, maybe if we rotate some players or something. And what would we give up? It's an idea to be thought about I think though.
I wouldn't give up Paajarvi or better for Nino. Certainly not Hemsky or Gagner. So basically nothing the Islanders would want.

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02-20-2013, 05:49 PM
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what I find even more disturbing than the one good season, as a good career has to start somewhere, is that he is not even having that good of a season in Russia.

He is at a .5ppg pace in the KHL.
Actually I believe he had 10 points in 12 games there.

I still would never give the kind of contract he is asking for based off of one good season and never posting a similar season in any level of hockey.

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02-20-2013, 05:57 PM
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We seriously need a top 4 D-man. I know everyone keeps talking forwards, but this D is just not good enough, and while Klefbom is on his way, we can't expect him to step in and play like Schultz. Possible targets out of the East include:

- Campbell - has a no trade clause I believe, and a fugly cap hit, but is a top pairing D-man
- Leopold - UFA, so shouldn't command too much. A little on the soft side, and how good is he still? Getting over 20 min/gm on Buffalo.
- Streit - UFA, so shouldn't command too much. Not physical either
- any D out of Washington? You have to think they want to shake things up with how poor they are playing this year.

Anyone have any other ideas?

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02-20-2013, 05:59 PM
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Still on McCormick, it's really a good spot for the Oilers to give this guy a shot. He's been a center before, he's tough and can play, but if it turns out he's just brutal, they could waive him again and then buy him out in the summer with no issue.

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02-20-2013, 06:38 PM
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McCormick is big, he's a centre but he's a really awful hockey player.

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02-20-2013, 06:52 PM
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Either the Oilers stand pat until summer and acquire a legit UFA or two plus make some huge trades. Its almost doubtful a decent named player will sign here if the Oilers continue to demonstrate that they cant make that next step.

Or.. they make a splash now! Fill some holes. Trade for a Getzlaf. Maybe not a Gagner plus but a good young player like MPS + 2nd + a 2014 1st if he chooses to sign and remain an Oiler during the off season. Something has to give.

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02-20-2013, 06:58 PM
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Either the Oilers stand pat until summer and acquire a legit UFA or two plus make some huge trades. Its almost doubtful a decent named player will sign here if the Oilers continue to demonstrate that they cant make that next step.

Or.. they make a splash now! Fill some holes. Trade for a Getzlaf. Maybe not a Gagner plus but a good young player like MPS + 2nd + a 2014 1st if he chooses to sign and remain an Oiler during the off season. Something has to give.
Getzlaf to Anaheim is like Smyth to Edmonton. Barring a major contract issue, he'll be staying in Anaheim where his life and family are set up.
Perry's the more likely of the 2 to change teams.

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02-20-2013, 07:05 PM
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Getzlaf to Anaheim is like Smyth to Edmonton. Barring a major contract issue, he'll be staying in Anaheim where his life and family are set up.
Perry's the more likely of the 2 to change teams.
I'm searching for a legit center tho with size and can play on the top two lines. Edmonton with a new arena and owner might be able to accomodate such a player. The image here is not nearly as poor as it was in the recent past.

I understand its a risk and the concern is real, but the Oilers need to make that leap of faith eventually.

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02-20-2013, 07:09 PM
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MPS for J. Blum + Scott Valentine

Oilers have been rumored to be interested in Blum for years and with him being bypassed by Josi and Ellis, maybe he could be had? He has a big point shot and can move the puck. Essentially its on underperforming top-10 pick for another.

Then Ryan Whitney for Landon Ferraro.

Detroit gets more veteran defensive depth that they can probably get the most out of. We get an underperforming prospect.

Thoughts?

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02-20-2013, 07:30 PM
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Agreed, thus we should want no part of him for the price being asked.
Finally this board is realizing that ROR is overrated.......

He isn't even the best centre on the Avs Roster (Duchene thank you)

And he wants to be paid more then Duchene? Crazy ness....

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02-20-2013, 07:31 PM
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I'm starting to get sick of all this ROR hype. Guy had 1 good season which probably had more to do with Landeskog playing on his wing then his actual skill level.
Very good point about Landeskog

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02-20-2013, 07:35 PM
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MPS for J. Blum + Scott Valentine

Oilers have been rumored to be interested in Blum for years and with him being bypassed by Josi and Ellis, maybe he could be had? He has a big point shot and can move the puck. Essentially its on underperforming top-10 pick for another.

Then Ryan Whitney for Landon Ferraro.

Detroit gets more veteran defensive depth that they can probably get the most out of. We get an underperforming prospect.

Thoughts?
I have always liked Blum, and would be a good target but I think MPS is to high of a price to pay. I agree that Ellis has passed him on the depth chart. But I'm not sure he's a big body type blue liner. The guy I really want is Zach Bogosian out of the Peg.

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MPS for J. Blum + Scott Valentine

Oilers have been rumored to be interested in Blum for years and with him being bypassed by Josi and Ellis, maybe he could be had? He has a big point shot and can move the puck. Essentially its on underperforming top-10 pick for another.

Then Ryan Whitney for Landon Ferraro.

Detroit gets more veteran defensive depth that they can probably get the most out of. We get an underperforming prospect.
Thoughts?
He's not underperforming anymore?

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02-20-2013, 08:25 PM
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Gagner + 2nd to Philly for Couturier and Coburn

Something like that.

I hate trading Gags away but.. the Oilers need a large body at center..

Maybe keep Gags as a winger.. and trade Hemsky + 2nd for the same package..

2nd Line

Gagner - Couturier - Yakupov

D'Core

Schultz - Schultz
Petry - Fistric
Smid - Coburn

Not sure what makes this a fair trade..

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Gagner + 2nd to Philly for Couturier and Coburn

Something like that.

I hate trading Gags away but.. the Oilers need a large body at center..

Maybe keep Gags as a winger.. and trade Hemsky + 2nd for the same package..

2nd Line

Gagner - Couturier - Yakupov

D'Core

Schultz - Schultz
Petry - Fistric
Smid - Coburn
I'm pretty sure that Couturier is untouchable. But that would be nice

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McCormick is big, he's a centre but he's a really awful hockey player.
find it funny that a sabres fan thought they could get a second rounder for him last week

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I'm pretty sure that Couturier is untouchable. But that would be nice
Perhaps.. Couturier is developing slowly and steadily.. kinda like Gagner did but even slower. Philly is not playing their greatest hockey.. nor are the Oilers. Gagner has 16 points and his stock is high. GAgner's worst season is still better than Couturier's best.. albeit he's only in his second season. Couturier seems to be more of a depth payer at the moment.. where Gagner or Hemsky are both key players. Hard to say.. Lol

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Gagner + 2nd to Philly for Couturier and Coburn

Something like that.

I hate trading Gags away but.. the Oilers need a large body at center..

Maybe keep Gags as a winger.. and trade Hemsky + 2nd for the same package..

2nd Line

Gagner - Couturier - Yakupov

D'Core

Schultz - Schultz
Petry - Fistric
Smid - Coburn

Not sure what makes this a fair trade..
What a horrible trade for Philly.

Couturier is waaay better than Gagner and Coburn in worth more than a second.

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I don't see any reason for the Flyers to move Couturier, but I'd give up a LOT to get him. Gagner or Hemsky and a pick probably doesn't do it. A big, skilled, 19 year old 3rd line C with tremendous upside making $1.375M probably isn't high on their list of players to move.

The Flyers are also one of the few teams who are actually going to be in some cap trouble come next season and trading a $1.375M player for a guy making twice that and who will be looking for a raise next year seems a little unlikely to me.

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For Couturier: we would be giving up either a package like Gagner, Klefbom and a 2nd or Yak or Eberle straight up.

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