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02-20-2013, 07:39 PM
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Cole is basically worthless. He's essentially in early retirement.
Yea man, 15 games totally negates last year's season.

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02-20-2013, 09:55 PM
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I think he is referring to Cole's crying about the CBA and basically saying that it isn't worth playing hockey anymore for $4.5mm per with the OUTRAGEOUS escrow the players have to pay. Seriously, I am glad I run Google, otherwise I would be in the poorhouse.

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02-20-2013, 09:57 PM
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Yea man, 15 games totally negates last year's season.
what will happen when gallagher will be back ? Cole do not deserve to be on the second line...

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Ryan O'Reilly





And his dad.

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Cole is basically worthless. He's essentially in early retirement.
This coming from a fan of a team that has been permanently retired for the last 46 years.

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02-20-2013, 10:37 PM
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I know it's a lot but we were speculating on what we could get for this

any suggestions?
Why....why would you start a thread that had absolutely zero relevance to what happens here on earth unless you are in some parallel universe?

Why not Gallgher + Galchenyuk + 3 second round picks....

Seriously what is the point of this thread?

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02-20-2013, 10:38 PM
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Ryan O'Reilly





And his dad.
I dunno, could we really get all that character? and get rid of Mr. Classless? Seems to good to be true.

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Subban + Cole
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ROR


1st (2013)
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Brenden Morrow + 3rd

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02-20-2013, 11:52 PM
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Lol.

No.

Just...



No.

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02-21-2013, 12:39 AM
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What would the Flyers need to add to Couturier to get Mr. PK Subban?

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What would the Flyers need to add to Couturier to get Mr. PK Subban?
Subban is going nowhere.

But Couturier would be a good piece, just not moving a player like Subban.

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02-21-2013, 12:46 AM
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Subban is going nowhere.

But Couturier would be a good piece, just not moving a player like Subban.
Cool man. Thanks for contributing nothing. Obviously YOUR player (since you are the GM) is going nowhere. Why was this thread made ? I hate people like you.

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02-21-2013, 12:52 AM
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What would the Flyers need to add to Couturier to get Mr. PK Subban?
Not a fan of either,

However if Subban were available. Couts would be a good start, maybe a young D prospect added? or a 2nd

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02-21-2013, 01:04 AM
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Cool man. Thanks for contributing nothing. Obviously YOUR player (since you are the GM) is going nowhere. Why was this thread made ? I hate people like you.
I don't know why but i doubt Bergevin would trade Subban, fans can offer whatever they want but that won't make it happen.

Plus Subban is more needed on the habs than Couturier if the habs trade him they will look for a top 6 player plus a good dman.

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02-21-2013, 01:13 AM
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No way we're gonna throw away our future on D and a 1st.

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Sometimes I wonder if people replying to these trade proposals are dumb or plain trolling.

Why bother saying it won't happen? We all know these trades won't happen. We make these threads to have opinions on trades or values of different players. The OP is asking what this package is worth. Why bother saying it won't happen as if the OP has the power to make it happen and by posting it won't, you're vetoing his right to make it happen?

As for the thread, kinda difficult to answer. Cole's value is negative at this point. Subban + 1st in 2013 +2nd in 2014 for Couturier + Schenn?

Flyers desperately need a young top pairing Dman. They are loaded on offense with Giroux, Simmonds, Hartnell, Voracek, Briere and have excellent depth. The loss of Pronger and Timonen not getting younger should make getting a top pairing Dman a priority. Montreal has two good D prospects on the farm that could ease the loss of Subban. The 2nd is because Schenn seems to be coming along quite nicely and although Couturier still has a long way to go, he's at the very worst a good third liner. So two proven NHL'ers for one of the best D under 25, a 1st in a deep draft and a 2nd in 2014?

Montreal gets bigger at center with Couturier. His defensive skills will be really helpful and they also get some skill and decent size on the wing/center depending on where Schenn is used.

I've explained the reasoning. Is the value fair?

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02-21-2013, 07:31 AM
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Subban + Cole
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ROR


1st (2013)
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Brenden Morrow + 3rd

Ew..... NO!

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I don't think Subban + 1st gets you Yakupov. I think Yakupov + 1st definitely gets you Subban.

Come on.

As for the OP - I think it may even have more value if you take out Cole. The teams that want Cole are not the teams giving up good roster players for a Subban + 1st package.



I don't think so.
So...... what I said? Come on pal... if you're going to mock me, at least read my post properly. But with regards to the first bit, you're delusional.

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02-21-2013, 07:35 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if people replying to these trade proposals are dumb or plain trolling.

Why bother saying it won't happen? We all know these trades won't happen. We make these threads to have opinions on trades or values of different players. The OP is asking what this package is worth. Why bother saying it won't happen as if the OP has the power to make it happen and by posting it won't, you're vetoing his right to make it happen?

As for the thread, kinda difficult to answer. Cole's value is negative at this point. Subban + 1st in 2013 +2nd in 2014 for Couturier + Schenn?

Flyers desperately need a young top pairing Dman. They are loaded on offense with Giroux, Simmonds, Hartnell, Voracek, Briere and have excellent depth. The loss of Pronger and Timonen not getting younger should make getting a top pairing Dman a priority. Montreal has two good D prospects on the farm that could ease the loss of Subban. The 2nd is because Schenn seems to be coming along quite nicely and although Couturier still has a long way to go, he's at the very worst a good third liner. So two proven NHL'ers for one of the best D under 25, a 1st in a deep draft and a 2nd in 2014?

Montreal gets bigger at center with Couturier. His defensive skills will be really helpful and they also get some skill and decent size on the wing/center depending on where Schenn is used.

I've explained the reasoning. Is the value fair?
I wouldnt do Subban straight up for Couts cause we clearly need Subban on D more than we need another center... Schenn wouldnt be the difference maker on the back end in any way neither... + you want to get rid of our first this year and second next year... Value is probably quite fair to be honest... But Montreal passes

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Subban + Cole
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ROR



1st (2013)
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1. Subban >>>> ROR... not to mention adding Cole.... but thanks for the laughs!
2. You're just screwing with us.......... not even close.

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What would the Flyers need to add to Couturier to get Mr. PK Subban?
Do not want Couturier, and we need Subban. No deal to be made, period.

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Cool man. Thanks for contributing nothing. Obviously YOUR player (since you are the GM) is going nowhere. Why was this thread made ? I hate people like you.
The funny thing is that just a couple of weeks ago before PK being signed there was not 1 Flyer fan that wanted to trade Couturier even 1 for 1 for PK and now you come in and are even willing to add. Not so sure your Flyers teammates will be very happy with you.

Honestly PK is not getting moved, he will play 25-30 minutes a night against other teams top lines and getting Couturier back is nice but we can't replace him with no one on your team at the moment. If the Habs hadn't drafted Galchenyuk, Couturier would have been a great starting point and could have possibly even got it done

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Subban + Cole
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ROR


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Plekanec, Galchenyuk, Desharnais and Eller, we are good at the center position adding ROR doesn't help much and how the hell would we replace PK's 20+ minutes a game against the other teams top lines? Package is not even close, maybe the Avs would need to add their 1st!

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Joel Ward you don't just run around with proposals like that. You target a player.

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What would the Flyers need to add to Couturier to get Mr. PK Subban?
Don't really think the Flyers have that extra piece available to get a deal done.

The only deal the Habs would probably consider is Couburn + Couturier for Subban and Desharnais/Gionta. Which would probably be a non-starter for Philly.

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