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07-13-2006, 05:13 PM
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Carbo said on CKAC that Sammy will probably fill the 2nd line with Ribs and Kovy. He also said that spot was supposed to be filled by Shanahan.

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I am in no position to tell Carbo something he doesn't already know, but the two words that come to my mind are 'defensive' and 'liability'.

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I am in no position to tell Carbo something he doesn't already know, but the two words that come to my mind are 'defensive' and 'liability'.
If anyone knows anything about defense it's Carbo and Gainey no?

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Samsonov has always been at his most productive with a centre who gets him the puck in good spots. That was a big reason why he worked so well with Thornton. Like Kovalev he can tend to hog the puck a bit if he feels he isn't getting help.

Koivu is a better fit for Samsonov IMO, but like Darz said the lines will probably change 15 times in the first week alone.

Speaking of changes, change that avatar before I denounce you to Warner bro for unrightfull uses of Daffy's image without being the least pathetic!

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Speaking of changes, change that avatar before I denounce you to Warner bro for unrightfull uses of Daffy's image without being the least pathetic!
No chance.

My faith remains constant for the North American God of Frustration: Daffy Duck.

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No chance.

My faith remains constant for the North American God of Frustration: Daffy Duck.
At least try to blend into the role, a few pathetic remarks here and there and we'll make a great team you and me!

Btw, have you ever seen the one where Elmer's hunting rabbit and Bugs fools him into thinking it's actually duck season (a classic)? So hilarious.

" Duck season: fire!" - Daffy duck

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At least try to blend into the role, a few pathetic remarks here and there and we'll make a great team you and me!

Btw, have you ever seen the one where Elmer's hunting rabbit and Bugs fools him into thinking it's actually duck season (a classic)? So hilarious.

" Duck season: fire!" - Daffy duck
Of course. It was in the series of 3 that Chuck Jones did from 1951 to 1953 which all featured Elmer Fudd. "Rabbit Fire," "Rabbit Seasoning" and of course "Duck Rabbit Duck."

The series had some great lines although my favorite was always:

"You are aware of course, this means war."

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If anyone knows anything about defense it's Carbo and Gainey no?
It's not uncommon for people to forget the very thing which put them where they are...

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Of course. It was in the series of 3 that Chuck Jones did from 1951 to 1953 which all featured Elmer Fudd. "Rabbit Fire," "Rabbit Seasoning" and of course "Duck Rabbit Duck."

The series had some great lines although my favorite was always:

"You are aware of course, this means war."

Followed 15 seconds later by "you're dess(spits)...dess(spits)...desssss(spits)picable"

So many memories...I gotta get'em DVD's just to share with the kids.

Some classics here:
-The singing frog
-StuperDuck
-Tweetie and Hyde
and the list goes on...so many memories
-so many I can't remember them all

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I wouldn't put too much into that comment. Carbo is a joker.

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This is not exactly what the quotes from Carbo said. They're up on RDS now.

http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/208458.html

""C'est la lacune que l'on essayait de combler… peut-être avec la venue d'un gars comme Shanahan. C'est la même chose avec un Samsonov, a comparé Carbonneau. Je crois que c'est un compteur de buts naturel, qui possède un bon lancer et beaucoup de vitesse. S'il est capable de finir les jeux qu'Alex et Mike (Ribeiro) feront, ce sera alors une combinaison dangereuse.""

He says it's obviously the area they were trying to improve upon / solve (scoring). It could be with a guy like Shanahan, but it's the same thing with a Samsonov. He believe Sammy is a nautral goal screr, has a good shot, and is very fast. IF he can finish the plays that Alex and Mike start, it would make a dangerous combination.

Simply speculation on all counts. However, it is reasonable to believe that Sammy would play with Kovy, and Kovy's center towards the end of last year was Ribeiro.

Did you ask Kovy if he enjoyed it?

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07-14-2006, 12:43 AM
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so are we likely to see

Higgins Koivu Ryder
Samsonov Ribeiro Kovalev
Perezhogin Plekanec Kostitsyn
begin bonk johnson

Carbo said that johnso will probably be used on the 3rd or 4th and he also said something about him playing with Begin,
I d love that
Of course if during the season ribs aint doin too good and we replace him with a real center, i sure wouldn t mind it too

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Did you ask Kovy if he enjoyed it?


If he enjoyed playing with Ribs? I remember reading an article a little while back saying he loves the type of centre Ribeiro is and it's his favourite centre to play with or something like that.

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If he enjoyed playing with Ribs? I remember reading an article a little while back saying he loves the type of centre Ribeiro is and it's his favourite centre to play with or something like that.
Now, how can he be right and the rest of us wrong

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maybe because when he was asked it was either Ribs or Bulis ?

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We have too many guys that hang on to the puck and don't shoot...
that's where Shanahan would have been handy...

Personally I would put a 1st line of Samsonov-Koivu-Ryder and a 2nd line of Higgins-Ribeiro-Kovalev (that's assuming there are no trades or rookies that steal someone else's spot).
This way I think is more balanced offensively as well as Defensively (Higgins can play Defensively on the 2nd line, Koivu can play defensively on the 1st line). Lots of speed there...i really wish Ribeiro would take power skating lessons...
The give and go may be amazing. Kovy may get > 40 this year.

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We have too many guys that hang on to the puck and don't shoot...
that's where Shanahan would have been handy...

Personally I would put a 1st line of Samsonov-Koivu-Ryder and a 2nd line of Higgins-Ribeiro-Kovalev (that's assuming there are no trades or rookies that steal someone else's spot).
This way I think is more balanced offensively as well as Defensively (Higgins can play Defensively on the 2nd line, Koivu can play defensively on the 1st line). Lots of speed there...i really wish Ribeiro would take power skating lessons...
agreed, much better than option A, and maybe ryder can score 35- 40 with these two feeding him the puck... no excuses playing alongside these guys

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Higgins (L) - Koivu (L) - Ryder (R)

Assets:
Has tremendous hockey sense and vision. Can line up anywhere and be used in
virtually any game situation. Owns above-average offensive potential.
Flaws:
Isn't big enough to play a big role in the corners. May not have natural
goal-scoring ability.
Career potential:
Two-way forward

Assets:
Is a great playmaker and makes his teammates better. Has slick moves and
good hands. Makes things happen on the ice. Never backs down from a challenge,
on or off the ice.
Flaws:
Injuries and illness have wreaked havoc on his NHL career. His fireball style
leaves him susceptible to getting hurt.
Career potential:
First line center

Assets:
Displays exemplary work ethic and sound positioning. Owns a lethal shot from the
slot area and a goal-scorer's mentality.
Flaws:
Needs to make better use of his linemates. Could make better use of his 6-1,
195-pound frame.
Career potential:
Second line winger


Samsonov (R) - Ribeiro (L) - Kovalev (L)

Assets:
Is speedy, extremely creative, very hard to knock off the puck and excellent
in one-on-one situations. Has smart offensive instincts, and displays surprising
grit and a fine work ethic as well.
Flaws:
Tends to hang onto the puck too long from time to time, trying to make something
happen out of nothing. His lack of size will always be a concern, since he's prone
to serious injury.
Career potential:
First line left-winger.

Assets:
Has exceptional vision and creativity on the ice. His offensive instincts are off
the charts and he's improving his all-around game.
Flaws:
Still needs a lot of work in the defensive zone. Must bulk up, for he is quite
undersized by NHL standards. Is still a bit immature.
Career potential:
Second line center

Assets:
Has an unmatched set of offensive skills with the puck. Is perhaps the premier
stickhandler in the game. Displays mesmerizing moves and a deceptive shot.
Flaws:
Will occasionally suffer brain cramps on the ice, resulting in careless turnovers.
Tends to shy away from contact after getting jarred. Has played far better while with the Penguins than as a Ranger.
Career potential:
First line right-winger


Perezhogin (L) - Plekanec (L) - Johnson (R)

Assets:
Displays a well rounded game. Can play effectively at either wing position and owns
loads of offensive potential.
Flaws:
Lacks ideal size and strength. Needs more work in defensive-zone coverage.
Career potential:
Top six winger

Assets:
Has excellent hockey sense and playmaking instincts. Is polished in the defensive
zone and not afraid of going in the corners to fish out the puck. Can line up
anywhere up front.
Flaws May not survive the physical aspects of the NHL game, mainly due to his
5-10 frame. Isn't a true sniper and could struggle to find the back of the net in the big league.
Career potential:
Third line forward

Assets:
Plays a smart positional game and shows good offensive instincts. Has great speed
and is an accomplished defensive player.
Flaws:
Lacks a physical edge, despite standing 6-2, 200 pounds. Needs to be able to grind
it out better along the boards. Is capable of scoring more goals.
Career potential:
Top six winger


Bégin (L) - Bonk (L) - Murray (L)

Assets:
Is fearless and can get under an opponent's skin. Possesses open-ice hitting ability
and defensive prowess. Is much stronger than his size suggests.
Flaws:
Has very limited scoring ability. Tends to take bad penalties. Is undersized for his
role at only 5-11, 190 pounds.
Career potential:
Fourth line agitator

Assets:
Possesses a great package: Strength, hockey sense, solid defensive skills and excellent fundamentals.
Flaws:
Isn't always as physical as he could be. Has not shown the consistency needed to play to expectations--especially in the postseason.
Career potential:
Two-way center

Assets:
Is a tenacious forechecker and sound defensive forward. Owns grit and aggression,
which he displays all over the ice. Can play any forward position.
Flaws
Is an extremely limited offensive contributor. Must work extra hard just to maintain
a spot in the NHL because of a lack of natural talent.
Career potential:
Checking line forward

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