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02-22-2013, 11:03 AM
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Grabner to BOS

Not sure if the Isles would be willing to give him up, but what would be needed to fetch Grabner for Boston? He would be a great player to slot in on Boston's 3rd line.

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Probably more than you would pay for a 3rd liner. With Okposo's poor play, the Isles can't really afford to give up Grabner as the team doesn't have many scoring wingers (Moulson, Boyes, ummmmm).

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Assuming Boston doesn't want to move something off it's roster, it would take one of Spooner or Khoko +(could see that "+" being a late 1st).

And that doesn't really address needs, just value. I think the Isles might be in the position of wanting actual NHL players (not the Chris Bourque/Danny Paille/ Aaron Johnson type) more than prospects, but I"ll let Isles fans answer that.

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Not sure if the Isles would be willing to give him up, but what would be needed to fetch Grabner for Boston? He would be a great player to slot in on Boston's 3rd line.
A 25 yr old core player, who's scored 54 goals over the last 2 full seasons.

He's a dangerous pk player, making a team friendly $2m this season and a team friendly $3m next season.

Isles have a glut of unproven prospect, so no picks/prospects.

What does Boston offer Snow?

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A 25 yr old core player, who's scored 54 goals over the last 2 full seasons.

He's a dangerous pk player, making a team friendly $2m this season and a team friendly $3m next season.

Isles have a glut of unproven prospect, so no picks/prospects.

What does Boston offer Snow?
Spooner, a 2nd, and the Islanders 2nd from the Thomas trade...but that has prospects and picks.

For roster players, I can see Ference being available. But I'm not sure if that's attractive to the Isles at all.

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Spooner, a 2nd, and the Islanders 2nd from the Thomas trade...but that has prospects and picks.
There really is no 2nd from the Thomas trade. It's a pretend pick.

Ference is an UFA to be and has zero value to the Isles. Spooner and a 1st.

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There really is no 2nd from the Thomas trade. It's a pretend pick.

Ference is an UFA to be and has zero value to the Isles. Spooner and a 1st.
What about Jared Knight and a 1st?

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Spooner, a 2nd, and the Islanders 2nd from the Thomas trade...but that has prospects and picks.

For roster players, I can see Ference being available. But I'm not sure if that's attractive to the Isles at all.
Sorry. You've got NYI trading an NHL player for a prospect with a very similar (projected) skillset. If that would be worthwhile for NYI, you would just promote Spooner.

Also the 2nd from the Thomas trade is conditional, and that condition won't be satisfied. So, double forget it.

Grabner is not getting traded for futures.

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Sorry. You've got NYI trading an NHL player for a prospect with a very similar (projected) skillset. If that would be worthwhile for NYI, you would just promote Spooner.

Also the 2nd from the Thomas trade is conditional, and that condition won't be satisfied. So, double forget it.

Grabner is not getting traded for futures.

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The Bruins time to win is now, promoting Spooner to the 3rd line to grow him wouldn't be efficient.

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I would want McQuaid+ or Boychuk straight up, but there's no reason to trade Grabner.

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I would want McQuaid+ or Boychuk straight up, but there's no reason to trade Grabner.
What would the + be on McQuaid?

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I would want McQuaid+ or Boychuk straight up, but there's no reason to trade Grabner.
McQuaid was my thought too, and straight up for Grabner, it's more than fair (look at some of the advanced stats on McQuaid and you see he's pretty well protected). But Boston can't do that unless they were then to turn around and make a deal for another dman.

Not good trading partners right now because the Isles want actual players and Boston doesn' want to deal any.

EDIT: Oops, I see it was McQuaid plus. That makes more sense value wise, but Boston just can't deal an NHL dman unless they have another trade in the works.

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Spooner, a 2nd, and the Islanders 2nd from the Thomas trade...but that has prospects and picks.

For roster players, I can see Ference being available. But I'm not sure if that's attractive to the Isles at all.
Snow is not gonna risk souring key players like Tavares and Hamonic, by trading contributing core players, on cheap contracts for picks/prospects.

Snow: "guys Grabner at 25 was too old for our team. Just wait until these 18-20 yr old get to the NHL". "Playoffs in 2015-2016 "

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The Bruins time to win is now, promoting Spooner to the 3rd line to grow him wouldn't be efficient.
Yeah, well NYI is not in let's get our ***es kicked as decisively as possible in every single game mode. So Grabner isn't being traded for less developed version of himself.

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McQuaid was my thought too, and straight up for Grabner, it's more than fair (look at some of the advanced stats on McQuaid and you see he's pretty well protected). But Boston can't do that unless they were then to turn around and make a deal for another dman.

Not good trading partners right now because the Isles want actual players and Boston doesn' want to deal any.
I would pull the trigger on McQuaid for Grabner straight up. B's have enough d-men in the waiting, plus Johnson, to fill that void.

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Seguin?

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Seguin?
Sure, throw in Tavares and we have a deal

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I would pull the trigger on McQuaid for Grabner straight up. B's have enough d-men in the waiting, plus Johnson, to fill that void.
No they don't. After Johnson the B's have 0 NHL ready/tested defensemen. Trading McQuaid means going out and acquiring another defenseman.

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No they don't. After Johnson the B's have 0 NHL ready/tested defensemen. Trading McQuaid means going out and acquiring another defenseman.
Ok, so the Bruins trade Bourque or a pick for a stay at home d-man

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With all due respect to the OP, I don't like Grabner and think he would be a horrible fit in Boston..He is a pure speed player with very little grit. He would be a square peg in a round hole in Boston.
The Big Bad Bruins teams that won 2 Cups always were able to find room for speed skill players.

I don't see why this team wouldn't be able to do the same. Kelly and Peverly aren't working out well this year. Maybe a little skill level would be a nice addition.

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Ok, so the Bruins trade Bourque or a pick for a stay at home d-man
Is it that easy to upgrade McQuaid? Hmmm, I wonder why Chiarelli hasn't thought of this.

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Is it that easy to upgrade McQuaid? Hmmm, I wonder why Chiarelli hasn't thought of this.
The Bruins aren't looking to upgrade McQuaid, they are looking to upgrade their 3rd line.

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The Bruins aren't looking to upgrade McQuaid, they are looking to upgrade their 3rd line.
If the Bruins can get a stay-at-home Dman on the cheap, wouldn't the Islanders do the same and keep Grabner? (We just lost Strait for the season).

Dr Quincy is right. There's nothing to talk about here.

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The Bruins aren't looking to upgrade McQuaid, they are looking to upgrade their 3rd line.
We are more likely to see the isle trade 34 yr old Aucoin or 37 yr old Reasoner, then 25 yr old Grabner.

There's speculation in Newsday, that if Snow can't find a taker for Reasoner, he'll be waived.

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With all due respect to the OP, I don't like Grabner and think he would be a horrible fit in Boston..He is a pure speed player with very little grit. He would be a square peg in a round hole in Boston.
Grabner has worked hard defensively this season and, because of his speed, is an asset no matter how you look at it. He literally keeps D-men on their heels and is one of the most dangerous PK threats in the entire league.

Grabner is a weapon that not many teams have, no reason for us to trade him. He has been real solid this season.

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