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02-22-2013, 01:31 PM
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Would love to add Murray and I like Burish a lot as a depth guy. 2nd for both or 3rd + prospect?

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02-22-2013, 01:34 PM
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There's a difference between saying "always be knocked for it" and saying "can't perform when it counts". The Rangers haven't gotten the hump, could I say that Lundqvist can't perform when it counts and he's just a regular season goalie?
If you just said the bolded that would have been fine. But by adding the stereotypical "choking" label, it really lowers your credibility since it shows how little you know about Thornton.
I was being an idiot and i admitted that.

don't know what's worse, me being wrong than saying it, or someone who cant look past the fact that i admitted a mistake.....

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Would love to add Murray and I like Burish a lot as a depth guy. 2nd for both or 3rd + prospect?
Done, for the 2nd.

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02-22-2013, 01:38 PM
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In what world would the Rangers trade Kreider/Hagelin for #6 guy, promising but still depth dman at this point?
That is laughable.
Demers is a #6 on the sharks today only because he was injured and missed camp and the start of the season. For the last two seasons he has been in our top 4, and been very good at that role.

Also, we are stacked on defense. It's asking a lot to ask a young player to push one of Boyle, Burns, Vlasic or Stuart down the depth chart.

Also, no one implied Demers/Braun for Kreider straight up, you are making an assumption in order to justify your rant. We said, very clearly, these are the players we would have interest in, and only these players, these are the players we would have available. We don't want to trade players for players that don't help our team, Boyle and Emminger do not help us at all.

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Done, for the 2nd.
Is Burish a Penalty Killer and how is Murray looking this season?

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Is Burish a Penalty Killer and how is Murray looking this season?
Yes and slow.

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In what world would the Rangers trade Kreider/Hagelin for #6 guy, promising but still depth dman at this point?
That is laughable.
You obviously have no idea how to read...all i said was you wouldn't trade away good pieces but we should trade away our promising pieces for scraps....you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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Demers is a #6 on the sharks today only because he was injured and missed camp and the start of the season. For the last two seasons he has been in our top 4, and been very good at that role.

Also, we are stacked on defense. It's asking a lot to ask a young player to push one of Boyle, Burns, Vlasic or Stuart down the depth chart.

Also, no one implied Demers/Braun for Kreider straight up, you are making an assumption in order to justify your rant. We said, very clearly, these are the players we would have interest in, and only these players, these are the players we would have available. We don't want to trade players for players that don't help our team, Boyle and Emminger do not help us at all.
Don't forget, Kreider's a healthy scratch on a not-deep Rangers forward core. He accuses Demers of only being a depth player with upside, but doesn't acknowledge that Kreider is the same.

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Is Burish a Penalty Killer and how is Murray looking this season?
Yes, in fact it is the one thing he does very well. He is an excellent penalty killer and is one of the fastest skaters on the team.

Murray has looked terrible. He looks like a guy who's play style does not fit in the team he is playing on anymore. You want Murray if you want a solid defensive defensemen who is nearly impossible to knock down and throws some of the biggest hits you have ever seen. If you want someone who can skate, or has any form of offense, you don't want him.

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Don't forget, Kreider's a healthy scratch on a not-deep Rangers forward core. He accuses Demers of only being a depth player with upside, but doesn't acknowledge that Kreider is the same.
If you think kreider is a depth player with upside you're living on another planet.

I'd do the burish and murray for a 2nd since powe is injured for god knows how long.

Rangers have quite a bit of forward depth with Powe and Nash before the injuries. Kreider is still not to great on the defensive side of the puck which is obviously a HUGE part of the Rangers game. Torts needs guys to be defensively responsible, hence the reason Kreider was sent back down and only called up due to injuries.

Kreider will learn D in the AHL and be called up when he is ready, very similar to how callahan was handled in his rookie season.

Kreider will be a top winger on the Rangers for a long time.

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If you think kreider is a depth player with upside you're living on another planet.
Is he playing top-6 and producing offensive? No? That makes him a depth player, in the same way that Demers is a "depth player". That's all I'm saying. You can't have both, you can't call Demers a depth player and then act like Kreider isn't.

Demers will be a top defenseman for the Sharks for a long time.

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02-22-2013, 01:47 PM
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Burish would likely fit in perfectly on the rangers 3rd/4th lines and i'd take murray as well.

If only we could get the message to sather.

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Would love to add Murray and I like Burish a lot as a depth guy. 2nd for both or 3rd + prospect?
Done. Burish is way overpaid at $1.8 million.

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Is Burish a Penalty Killer and how is Murray looking this season?
They are both PK'ers.

Murray has been terribad. He might be the slowest skater in the league right now. He can still hit and block shots, but not much else.

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I was being an idiot and i admitted that.

don't know what's worse, me being wrong than saying it, or someone who cant look past the fact that i admitted a mistake.....
Except you never did. You just said the argument is moot, which for all I know could mean you don't care who's right, not that you're wrong.
I'm getting a bit too OT here though so I'll end it there.

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Is he playing top-6 and producing offensive? No? That makes him a depth player, in the same way that Demers is a "depth player". That's all I'm saying. You can't have both, you can't call Demers a depth player and then act like Kreider isn't.

Demers will be a top defenseman for the Sharks for a long time.
You didn't put it that way though. If you said something like if Demers is a depth-dman then kreider is a depth offensive player, that would make sense, but you referred to it differently.

Either way, demers and kreider aren't going anywhere.

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Done. Burish is way overpaid at $1.8 million.



They are both PK'ers.

Murray has been terribad. He might be the slowest skater in the league right now. He can still hit and block shots, but not much else.
I'd still take burish, he'd fit in well with his speed.

As for Murray, he'd strictly be a rental for our D-Depth. Maybe slot him in over gilroy as the #6, although i've really liked gilroy lately.

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All of New York City and a 2nd for Joe Thornton.

Can we do that?

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All of New York City and a 2nd for Joe Thornton.

Can we do that?
NYR have to add.

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NYR have to add.
We'll throw in the rest of the state.

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We'll throw in the rest of the state.
The Jets, Bills, Mets, Islanders and Sabres all have negative value. No thanks.

Make it a 1st and I'll consider it

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Would love to add Murray and I like Burish a lot as a depth guy. 2nd for both or 3rd + prospect?
Either deal would be lousy for the Rangers.

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The Jets, Bills, Mets, Islanders and Sabres all have negative value. No thanks.

Make it a 1st and I'll consider it
We traded our 1st for Nash but he needs someone to play with

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Since NYR is in the state of NY, Nash can play with Marleau in SJ

You can keep Sather though.

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Is he playing top-6 and producing offensive? No? That makes him a depth player, in the same way that Demers is a "depth player". That's all I'm saying. You can't have both, you can't call Demers a depth player and then act like Kreider isn't.

Demers will be a top defenseman for the Sharks for a long time.
He is 10 games into his NHL career. We usually don't label top prospects, 10 games into their careers "depth players" as to mean that's what he is expected to be. Demers has had a longer time to establish himself and he is where he is. And your D is not stacked; not sure who wrote that but that is a big time exaggeration. we can have both because the comparison is apples and oranges.

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We'll throw in the rest of the state.
Sounds like an equal trade, the Big Apple for the Big Apple (choke).

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