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02-23-2013, 03:32 AM
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Who is the 5th best NHL player of all time?

I saw an article the other day about the top five players and someone had Tretiak. I was thinking in terms of just the NHL though. Sorry, another one of these threads but a friend of mine were having a childish fight about it . Top four in no order are the obvious ones, Gretz, Mario, Orr, Howe. That fifth slot to me seems TBD.

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Maurice Richard, Bobby Hull, Jean Beliveau all pop to mind.

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Why not a goalie? What Brodeur has done for NJ is legendary.

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Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th

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Why not a goalie? What Brodeur has done for NJ is legendary.
If it's a goalie it's definitely not Broduer. He might be fifth best goalie, but not player.

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Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th
I'm, wow. That's definitely some unique rankings.

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This is a question that has been covered numerous times on the History of Hockey board, so you can find answers with a great level of detail and effort behind them over there. To keep it short, my answer is Bobby Hull...but you can find valid arguments for guys like Richard, Beliveau, Shore, and Harvey.

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If it's a goalie it's definitely not Broduer. He might be fifth best goalie, but not player.
I'll throw my chips for Hasek as number 5

If not him Maurice Richard or Eddie Shore

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Bobby Hull, Jean Beliveau or Doug Harvey.

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This is a question that has been covered numerous times on the History of Hockey board, so you can find answers with a great level of detail and effort behind them over there. To keep it short, my answer is Bobby Hull...but you can find valid arguments for guys like Richard, Beliveau, Shore, and Harvey.
I did search it and there were plenty of arguments either way however sometimes it was difficult to make heads or tails of it. Figured on this side we might get a different, if anything a more exposed opinion of what the collective minds of hockey junkies think.

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Bobby Hull. Counting his WHA career he scored more than 900 goals implying that he had a chance to be the first in scoring.

He can also be cosidered as best of all time.

PS Didn't see luch of Orr tapes compared to, say, Hull but something tells me he is a bit overhyped. It is American culture to love one single moment not the whole career.

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Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th
No way, as a lifelong Caps fan who absolutely hated/hates the penguins, Mario is the most talented/dominate hockey player ever. He should never be lower than 2.

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Messier, even though this board cant stand him.

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Bobby Hull. Counting his WHA career he scored more than 900 goals implying that he had a chance to be the first in scoring.

He can also be cosidered as best of all time.

PS Didn't see luch of Orr tapes compared to, say, Hull but something tells me he is a bit overhyped. It is American culture to love one single moment not the whole career.
Ignoring the fact that it's a goofy assertion to claim what Americans like and it's not usually Americans ranking players. What's the single moment that over hypes Orr?

BTW it's pretty much the entirety of Howes career that makes him a legend. So that flies in the face of your theory.

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Bobby Hull. Counting his WHA career he scored more than 900 goals implying that he had a chance to be the first in scoring.

He can also be cosidered as best of all time.

PS Didn't see luch of Orr tapes compared to, say, Hull but something tells me he is a bit overhyped. It is American culture to love one single moment not the whole career.
I think he's one of those guys where the romanticism of what he could do gets a bit out of hand at times, but he won eight consecutive Norris trophies, two Art Ross trophies as a defenseman, and statistically dominated GF/GA numbers when he was on the ice. There's questions about the competition level of the era he played in, but what he was able to do was amazing beyond a single moment.

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