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Islanders place DiPietro on Waivers

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02-23-2013, 12:30 AM
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This may be closer to the truth than the idea that DiPietro is being prepared for a buyout.

The Islanders need to stay above cap minimum. If DiPietro is claimed on waivers or if he is bought out the Islanders would be under the minimum cap. Niether Thomas nor Nabokov are playing well at the moment and both are older than Luongo. The rookie goalies the Islanders have are not ready, if ever, to play a leading roll in the NHL.

Of the teams that may be looking to improve in goal, the Islanders are a team with depth in quality prospects including a number of lottery picks. With Kesler and Booth back, the Canucks are no longer a team that absolutely is looking for NHL ready players. The Islanders could afford to give the Canucks an offer the Canucks cannot refuse in order to solidify their goal position and still not seriously harm the Islanders prospect depth.

Personally if the Islanders do trade with the Canucks for one of Vancouver's goalies, I think the Islanders will go afterr Cory Schnieder rather than Roberto Luongo.

Which players or prospects do you think Vancouver would be asking for in return?
The Islanders' current salary payroll is about $53M. The minimum is $44M. Even if DiPietro's $4.5M completely disappeared by a team claiming him, the Islanders would be more than fine. If the Islanders were to give him a compliance buyout right now, $3.6M of his cap hit would count towards the Islanders' cap for the rest of the season (see: Redden and Gomez). Again, more than fine.

Nabokov is not a top 10 goalie anymore but he is still more than serviceable. The Islanders are not going to be sending out young players for Luongo. They are not in a win-now mode.

Oh, and are you sure Thomas isn't playing well? I hear he's gotten a couple shutouts while sitting on his couch playing NHL 13.

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02-23-2013, 01:30 AM
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The Islanders' current salary payroll is about $53M. The minimum is $44M. Even if DiPietro's $4.5M completely disappeared by a team claiming him, the Islanders would be more than fine. If the Islanders were to give him a compliance buyout right now, $3.6M of his cap hit would count towards the Islanders' cap for the rest of the season (see: Redden and Gomez). Again, more than fine.

Nabokov is not a top 10 goalie anymore but he is still more than serviceable. The Islanders are not going to be sending out young players for Luongo. They are not in a win-now mode.

Oh, and are you sure Thomas isn't playing well? I hear he's gotten a couple shutouts while sitting on his couch playing NHL 13.
Actually I must admit that Thomas hasn't lost a game this season.

It was my understanding that salary floor was $48.3 million when the cap was set at $64 million, but I may be wrong.

As I mentioned, if such a trade does happen, I believe the Canucks (especially Gillis)would prefer to keep Luongo and the Islanders would prefer the younger Cory Schnieder. With decent goal tending the Islanders are not that far off being a decent team. You have good depth in your prospect pool. The trouble is the Islanders won't gel as a team while hoping for older goalies to provide adiquate goal tending and your younger goalies are still a number of years away in development of an NHL level even as back up. Push them now and they likely won't develop properly or reach their potential. Equally continuing to allow the team as a whole to expect to fail over the next few years will only teach them losing is acceptable.

I believe it is far more critical than you think that your team acquires a goalie, whether from the Canucks or from another team, that is strong enough to keep the Islanders in the game until the buzzer ends the game. That will bring out the best in your young quality forwards and defensemen.

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02-23-2013, 02:08 AM
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The day the Isles traded away Luongo and Jokinen in return for Kvasha and some other guy (cant even recall who) still haunts this team.

They need to purge all traces of anything from that era.
Wasn't Parrish the other guy?

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02-23-2013, 02:42 AM
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Wasn't Parrish the other guy?
Yup. Parrish and Kvasha for Luongo and Jokinen.

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This may sound crazy, and although I don't expect a team to claim him due to his contract, I could see him getting a deal if the Isles buy him out. He's only 30, so he is entering prime years for a goalie, and due to injuries and bad luck, might be healthier than others the same age. Some time in the AHL to build his confidence and exposure to playing more than once a week could be all he needs.

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This may sound crazy, and although I don't expect a team to claim him due to his contract, I could see him getting a deal if the Isles buy him out. He's only 30, so he is entering prime years for a goalie, and due to injuries and bad luck, might be healthier than others the same age. Some time in the AHL to build his confidence and exposure to playing more than once a week could be all he needs.
It's not crazy. When he's healthy, he's a great goalie. If he's on a short term deal at 1.5m, I think most teams would look at him

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I could see the Flyers picking up Dipietro

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I could see the Flyers picking up Dipietro
Not at 4.5m for another 8 years.

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Not at 4.5m for another 8 years.
Yeah I figured it would be, even for the Flyers.

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02-23-2013, 05:36 AM
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This may sound crazy, and although I don't expect a team to claim him due to his contract, I could see him getting a deal if the Isles buy him out. He's only 30, so he is entering prime years for a goalie, and due to injuries and bad luck, might be healthier than others the same age. Some time in the AHL to build his confidence and exposure to playing more than once a week could be all he needs.
He's in what, year 5-6 of his 15yr deal?

This is actually the best thing for him I think, he was once a very good goaltender and I remember that. If he can get back into a groove in the AHL and really, he should spend the entire year there, he could bounce back next year. The bad part is that he's actually healthy now and probably needed time in the AHL during the lockout, but went to Germany instead and faced lesser competition.

Kind of sad to see the guy's career go this way. He's only played 3 games, he probably should have been given a few more starts, even goaltenders that don't deserve starts around the league, get more than that. I guess if he gets bought out next, he has the chance to sign for dirt cheap (since he's still getting paid by the Isles) and resurrect his career elsewhere.

And he's actually 31, turns 32 a month before the season starts (1981 born).

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he could have been a really good goalie if not for injuries and if he ever stopped over handling the puck, something which he does at times.
i give him credit, the guy was a hard worker and he really loves the Islanders.
however drafting him first overall was a big mistake,
bigger mistake was trading luongo.
but that wasn't the ricks fault, you also can't blame him for signing the contract.

anyway i wish him the best. have no idea what wang is going to do regarding a buyout, but at least Poulin gets a chance and nabby gets a back up that can win a game.

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02-23-2013, 06:33 AM
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It's not crazy. When he's healthy, he's a great goalie. If he's on a short term deal at 1.5m, I think most teams would look at him
Haha, I can see that you've not seen DiPi play in a very, very long time. He can't even move anymore. When he is on his knees, he can't get up fast enough. When he was drafted he was very good to play the puck, not anymore. It kinda sad to see. You say that he is a great goalie when healthy, he is not healthy anymore. The injuries has destroyed his body. DiPi is _done_.

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Horrible contract. Feel sorry for NYI fans.
I feel bad for DiPietro. He's this burden for Islanders taking huge paycheck. It wasn't his fault someone offered him ridicolous long contract.

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Wouldn't be shocked if the Islanders claimed him.
Oh My God ....... almost woke the family choking on me lucky charms !

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It's not crazy. When he's healthy, he's a great goalie. If he's on a short term deal at 1.5m, I think most teams would look at him
He sux. He's not even an ECHL level goalie anymore.

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Snow should package DiPietro with a young player like Niederreiter and a pick to a deep pocketed team that aren't going to use their compliance buyout and would have no problem absorbing the expense.

The Isles would get DP off the books and the recieving team would get some young assets for the cash
And where do you think he can find a GM stupid enough for a deal like that? He would have to be dealing with someone like himself.

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Who will back up Nabokov now?
Tim Thomas

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It's not crazy. When he's healthy, he's a great goalie. If he's on a short term deal at 1.5m, I think most teams would look at him
DP is healthier than he has been in years and he is STILL horrible. When the guy goes down to the ice it takes him so long to get back up, you can literally see what has been done to this guys body when he plays.

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What would happen if DiPietro retired?

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What would happen if DiPietro retired?
Islanders fans would throw a parade.

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Islanders fans would throw a parade.


But seriously. With the new CBA, what happens to players contracts who signed a long term and who are under 35 when they retire.

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What would happen if DiPietro retired?
why would he retire ?

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why would he retire ?
To injured to play and he is forced to retire

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To injured to play and he is forced to retire
If he signed retirement papers then he accept to void the 8 years left to his contract, so why would he do that, he can't be forced to retire. It will be like Marc Savard, he will be on injured reserve for the next 8 years

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What would happen if DiPietro retired?
He's never going to retire. He would lose a lot of money if he retired..

I see the Islanders buying him out in the offseason (not compliance buyout though, since they need the cap hit).

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