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02-23-2013, 10:27 AM
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It's useless to name anyone that's not Canadian guys, so just stop.

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02-23-2013, 10:30 AM
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How do people include players like Morenz in these lists? The guy died in 1938 and there barely exists any video footage of his play. You grandfather was too young to have seen him play.

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02-23-2013, 10:30 AM
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Goalies never get respect in this conversation even though hes the most important player on the ice,

If were getting close to full squad on the ice gotta bring in a tendy

Kenny D
Roy
Brodeur


If were excluding the goalers then another game changer should be brought up maybe a
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Lindros imo was the most dominant player to ever play the game.

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Hasek.

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02-23-2013, 10:31 AM
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What made Hull so good? Not questioning you guys, just wondering because he is a bit out of my era
Out of my era too, but what i heard is that the guy was miles stronger than every other player. (Gordie Howe being exception) He was also faster than most and he was pretty darn good at scoring goals.
One of the best offensive players to ever play the game.

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02-23-2013, 10:35 AM
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How do people include players like Morenz in these lists? The guy died in 1938 and there barely exists any video footage of his play. You grandfather was too young to have seen him play.
By that analogy most of this board is unqualified to discuss about players before the 1990.

Just cause they are gone does not mean their legacy is. It is interesting and fun to rank/discuss about players from the past.

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02-23-2013, 10:36 AM
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How do people include players like Morenz in these lists? The guy died in 1938 and there barely exists any video footage of his play. You grandfather was too young to have seen him play.
Well thank god you like a sport that has about thirty years of relatable history (butterfly) not a big baseball fan eh?

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02-23-2013, 10:37 AM
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What made Hull so good? Not questioning you guys, just wondering because he is a bit out of my era
Lead league in goals seven times (most all time)
Lead league in points three times
Top 3 in goals 10 times (second all time)
Two time Hart trophy winner
10x 1st AS, 2x 2nd AS
Biggest margin ever for a goalscorer (54 to 32 or 68%)
Six seasons ever when a goalscorer won by more than 40%. Hull has two, Gretzky has one, Howe has two and Brett Hull has one. For reference Stamkos won by 20%. Ovi's 65 goal campaign was 25%. Last person to top 30% was Bure in 00 (58 to 44).
Won Art Ross in 66 by a margin of 24.36% (97 to 78). That's only been equaled by Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe and Esposito.

Counting WHA years
3x WHA 1st AS, 2x WHA 2nd AS
Two time WHA MVP

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02-23-2013, 10:40 AM
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It's useless to name anyone that's not Canadian guys, so just stop.
If you can provide a logical and statical argument for Jagr/Lidstrom/Hasek above Hull/Richard/Beliveau/Shore/Morenz/Harvey then we'll gladly put them above them.

There's no nationalistic agenda here.

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Bryan Trottier ( Trots ) Trottier was described as a forward possessing an all around game including ruggedness . 7 rings 4 as a players 3 as assistant coach

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It's useless to name anyone that's not Canadian guys, so just stop.
wrong on so many levels, but really where your missing most is its an nhl bias, no mentions of the red army teams which were able to mop the floor with the national teams including alot of the mentioned nhl players, (MAKAROV, MALTSEV, etc.)

Not our fault 60% (older number havn't confirmed) of the league is canadian today and it was 90%+ for the first 70 years of the league

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5th is easy.

Whos is 105th best?
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Bobby Hull

I don't really like to mix the rankings of goalies and skaters.

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What made Hull so good? Not questioning you guys, just wondering because he is a bit out of my era
Bobby Hull may be the most exciting player to ever play the game. He was electryfying. He had one of (if not the) hardest and most accurate shots ever plus he was lighning fast. His slap shot was Wicked. His shot was so hard, it scared goalies. He was famous for his length of the ice rushes, he would take the puck from behind the net and rush the lenngth of the ice and score. That is how he earned his nickname the Golden Jet. The stadium would be on its feet once he took the puck in this situations. And it was before helmets, he looke dcool with his long blond hair flying all over the place. Players were more identifiable without the helmets.

It was a devistating day in Chicago when he left the Hawks for the WHL. Took them decades to recover.

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the only dman to ever lead a team to being a dynasty

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Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th
And the idiot quote of the day goes to...

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How would Brett Hull's stats look if he played during his father's era? No doubt it was harder to win scoring titles playing at the same time as Gretzky.

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Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th
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02-23-2013, 12:39 PM
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Maurice Richard.

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02-23-2013, 12:40 PM
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Jagr or Hasek.

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Bobby Hull, asked Grandpa and he said its no contest.

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Two from way back that geezers older than me talk about, that haven't even been mentioned, are Red Kelly (defense) and Terry Sawchuck (goalie).

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Bobby Hull or Marty Brodeur.
Both dominant players in their era.

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Bobby Hull may be the most exciting player to ever play the game. He was electryfying. He had one of (if not the) hardest and most accurate shots ever plus he was lighning fast. His slap shot was Wicked. His shot was so hard, it scared goalies. He was famous for his length of the ice rushes, he would take the puck from behind the net and rush the lenngth of the ice and score. That is how he earned his nickname the Golden Jet. The stadium would be on its feet once he took the puck in this situations. And it was before helmets, he looke dcool with his long blond hair flying all over the place. Players were more identifiable without the helmets.

It was a devistating day in Chicago when he left the Hawks for the WHL. Took them decades to recover.
He went too fast, his hair blew-off the top of his head! He had one of the worst-looking toupee's for years!

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