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02-23-2013, 01:55 PM
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Silf’s path to NHL *dom could be similar to that of Alfie’s. Alfie was more than a PPG player though, he led by example and had been consistently underrated in the NHL. I feel Silf may take a similar path - though he has so much to prove. He led his team to SEL championship, and may have a letter stitched to his jersey in the future.

Talent wise, I believe Silf can be a Selke type, 30/30 forward. Comparable to RoR (with a better shot).

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02-23-2013, 02:29 PM
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Alfie was still in Sweden at Silfverberg's age and wasn't a ppg player there. Not even comparable to the dominance that Silfverberg put up there. Silfverberg's 21 year old season in Sweden is also better than Forsberg's 21 year old season in Sweden. You act like Silfverberg wasn't utterly dominant in the SEL before coming over here.

Again, it's obviously very optimistic to think that Silfverberg will ever become as good as those players (though I think he can). However is we're basing it on their relative performances at the same age? Silfverberg is as good if not better than most of them.

But the comparisons are difficult too. Silfverberg isn't a high end draft pick that was expected to be as good as he has become. He has shown the ability to adapt and constantly improve at every level. It's impossible to a put a limit on that kind of player at this age.
Alfie had 61 points his first season in the NHL, and had left the SEL as nearly a ppg player. They are comparable even though Alfie was somewhat more of a late bloomer.


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Alfie had 61 points his first season in the NHL, and had left the SEL as nearly a ppg player. They are comparable even though Alfie was somewhat more of a late bloomer.
Alfie started improving annually at a time when a lot of players typically wind down their careers.

I think it was a deliberate choice on his part and indicative of his character and work ethic.

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02-23-2013, 02:47 PM
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I just wanted to use KANELSNÄCKA in a sentence.
Canal snacka? Is that a beaver tail?

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I just wanted to use KANELSNÄCKA in a sentence.
Dog food?

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Mire like national dish!

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Känelsnacka = cinnamon snacks?

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Känelsnacka = cinnamon snacks?
cinnamon roll
You eat it when you are having a coffee = fika.

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Here's something I haven't heard anybody suggest before.. We can see Silf struggles to get his shot off sometimes in traffic due to food speed / agility, but what if he drops some weight?

Hes listed on hockeydb as 187 pounds, but on the NHL website its 200 or 205. Judging by his appearance he looks closer to the 200 than the 187. 187 is semi skinny if your 6'1", but Silf's game would benefit from more speed and quickness over strength imo.

He does pretty good on the cycle and along the boards, but would you rather see him trim down a little bit for his skating's sake?

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02-23-2013, 04:14 PM
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I suggested that to him on skype a couple weeks back actually bruv

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just got a silfverberg rookie card from a hockey card pack i decided to buy.

so pumped!

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awesome, that might be worth .02 in 10 years

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Alfie had 61 points his first season in the NHL, and had left the SEL as nearly a ppg player. They are comparable even though Alfie was somewhat more of a late bloomer.
Yeah but Alfredsson wasn't even a PPG player in the SEL at 22...which is how old Silfverberg is now in the NHL. Who knows what Silfverberg will do in the NHL next year -- don't even know how this year will finish he has looked very good the last few games.

All I was trying to point out is that at the same age as all of those stars except for maybe Forsberg and Sundin, Silfverberg is the more dominant player and has accomplished more. That doesn't mean he will become as good as those players mentioned, but to say that it's impossible when he has adapted and improved by a lot in every league he's been in is pretty silly.

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awesome, that might be worth .02 in 10 years
lol the hockey card business has changed a lot since the Pro Set days...

For example, this Silfverberg card got sold for 179.99$

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAKOB-SILFVE...p2047675.l2557

I have sold Erik Karlsson cards for a lot more than that... I have a Karlsson collection to sell for 20K if interested

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cinnamon roll
You eat it when you are having a coffee = fika.
I find that Russian basic staple food is very similar to Swedish .
No wonder Russia was known before as a big Sweden or Gardarika.
And the name Rus or Ruotsi was used by Finish tribes to call actually Swedes.
Why such a name? The answer is simple. The swedesh traders were all coming from the same region called Roslagen, Roden or Ruslagen near Stockholm. And the next time you judge the Russian militaristic character, blame the Swedes

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02-24-2013, 09:37 AM
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Alfie started improving annually at a time when a lot of players typically wind down their careers.

I think it was a deliberate choice on his part and indicative of his character and work ethic.
Alfie has always been a great player but he started "improving" when Spezza showed up

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02-24-2013, 10:03 AM
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Alfie has always been a great player but he started "improving" when Spezza showed up
Personally I think it was when Martin was replaced by Murray.

Spezza was there around the same time, but you finally saw Alfredsson killing penalties which really developed his two-way game further.

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02-24-2013, 10:10 AM
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Don't know if this was posted but Alfie was asked if Silfv reminded him of anyone and he answered.... "me"!

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Don't know if this was posted but Alfie was asked if Silfv reminded him of anyone and he answered.... "me"!
I was the idiot before the season started who said that Silfverberg has the potential to be better than Alfredsson & eventually take over his role. What the hell do I know?

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Last night was actually the first time I actually saw Silf skate with NHL speed. Maybe the extra rest? Is he playing througha groin/knee issue? Last night there was no denying his first three strides was much, much better as well as his ability to pursue.

Wonder if anyone else noticed.

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I was at the game, and if his skating was MUCH better, then yikes. He still moves like a dump truck and really needs to work on whole-body quickness and agility.

Plyometrics!

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03-08-2013, 09:48 PM
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nice to see him get som points again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tYoIN0cLwWM

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03-08-2013, 09:54 PM
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It took him awhile to figure out the AHL and start scoring there but once he did he took over the Bingo scoring lead. Maybe now he is starting to figure out the NHL..

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kanalsnackas look good and similar to our canal snack'as


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03-08-2013, 10:01 PM
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Here's something I haven't heard anybody suggest before.. We can see Silf struggles to get his shot off sometimes in traffic due to food speed / agility, but what if he drops some weight?

Hes listed on hockeydb as 187 pounds, but on the NHL website its 200 or 205. Judging by his appearance he looks closer to the 200 than the 187. 187 is semi skinny if your 6'1", but Silf's game would benefit from more speed and quickness over strength imo.

He does pretty good on the cycle and along the boards, but would you rather see him trim down a little bit for his skating's sake?
He doesn't appear to be overly muscular or fat. I think him getting any smaller would only result in a loss of strength. No point in that.

Nevertheless, he lacks that extra "jump" necessary to really be putting up the points. He showed again tonight he has the hands to be effective. We all know he has the shot. But in the NHL skating is the name of the game. Get him some power skating lessons etc and I think we'll see him have a real breakout season sooner rather than later. He is playing decent as it is.... but he likely won't be able to take that next step towards becoming a legitimate top line threat until he improves on his agility and acceleration in particular.

With better skating, I've little doubt Silverberg can be the prolific, opportunistic sniper we all want him to be.

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