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02-23-2013, 12:23 PM
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Teams will keep faceoff, PK, PP, and fighting specialists, even if their game is awful in every other category (Steckel, Marc-Andre Bergeron, etc.) No idea why no one keeps a shootout specialist.
Because shootout ability is usually found in most, if not all, of the team's top-6 forwards.

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02-23-2013, 12:53 PM
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On a side note, I'm a huge fan of Schremp and don't understand why he doesn't have an NHL job. He can handle at least 5 minutes a night which is more than some NHL 4th liners, and if the game goes to a shootout, you have a wizard.

Teams will keep faceoff, PK, PP, and fighting specialists, even if their game is awful in every other category (Steckel, Marc-Andre Bergeron, etc.) No idea why no one keeps a shootout specialist.
Ask Fletcher. The Wild were the last team to employ one (Christensen).

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02-23-2013, 12:56 PM
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Gelinas is NHL ready from the games I went to in Albany during the lockout which I went to around 8 or so.
I'm really glad to hear this, I have high hopes for him. Hopefully he will get the chance next season.

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This kid is a machine.
But I have only 1 thing to say : sign Charles Sarault !
We have not a lot of offensive depth and always manager to find some gems as free agents. Why not trying him ? his chemistry with Boucher could be useful.
Sarault will be highly sought after. Hopefully we'll have an edge with Boucher in the system.

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02-23-2013, 04:20 PM
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I'm really glad to hear this, I have high hopes for him. Hopefully he will get the chance next season.



Sarault will be highly sought after. Hopefully we'll have an edge with Boucher in the system.
Sarault is putting up huge numbers as a 21 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are his 18 year old draft year numbers---hardly overwhelming!

2009-10 Regular Season Kingston Frontenacs 62 4 12 16 -19 31

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Sarault is putting up huge numbers as a 21 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are his 18 year old draft year numbers---hardly overwhelming!

2009-10 Regular Season Kingston Frontenacs 62 4 12 16 -19 31
Worth a shot, better than most of what we have an Albany.

Having chemistry could also help Boucher acclimate quicker. That alone could be worth the signing.

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02-23-2013, 08:59 PM
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For all the Boucher bandwagoners:

The player with the most OHL goals in one season is Ernie Godden with 87.

Guess how many NHL games he played?

A whopping 5

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02-23-2013, 09:41 PM
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There is nothing wrong with being excited about a prospects potential as long as you don't expect him to reach it. You just have to realize there is a chance, sometimes a good one, that he won't reach it.

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02-23-2013, 10:50 PM
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For all the Boucher bandwagoners:

The player with the most OHL goals in one season is Ernie Godden with 87.

Guess how many NHL games he played?

A whopping 5
There is nothing wrong with folks here enjoying a fine season by one of their favorite team's picks. I haven't seen any unrealistic or bold predictions from anyone here about the kid's future. So this need from posters to cause a rift between everyone by bringing up extreme pessimistic low end scenarios is unnecessary. All it does it loads up ammunition for 3-4 years from now for posters to have their "needer-needer, told you so" moments.

There's enough negativity going on GDT that there is no need for it to spill over in to here too. Boucher is doing something rare at any level these days, lets have fun with it.

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02-24-2013, 08:23 AM
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There is nothing wrong with folks here enjoying a fine season by one of their favorite team's picks. I haven't seen any unrealistic or bold predictions from anyone here about the kid's future. So this need from posters to cause a rift between everyone by bringing up extreme pessimistic low end scenarios is unnecessary. All it does it loads up ammunition for 3-4 years from now for posters to have their "needer-needer, told you so" moments.

There's enough negativity going on GDT that there is no need for it to spill over in to here too. Boucher is doing something rare at any level these days, lets have fun with it.
That came off bad, I just wanted to point out that goals scored in the OHL are not always translated to the pro level. No ones hyping him up so far, but everything all the Devils beat writers and MSG+ are doing,the over hyping is going to come.


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02-24-2013, 09:04 AM
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I prefer to think about Boucher this way: we knew when he got drafted that he was a kid with an awe-inspiring ability to shoot the puck, but not a whole lot else going for his game. He decided to go to the CHL rather than the NCAA because he was so young. If you had asked me what I would have wanted to see Boucher do in the CHL in his next two-three seasons there, I'd have said demonstrate that his offensive game could translate to the Juniors level.

He's done that. In spades.

So far, he's all that I hoped for on draft day. The question is when he goes to the next level up, can he continue to play up to that level. I don't know if he will or won't, but the point is with Boucher the thing to remember is so far so good.

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02-24-2013, 09:34 AM
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We expected Boucher to be a project pick, and so far the project looks like it's coming along nicely. He has a long way to go in his development to become a Devils forward, but he has proved that his shot is NHL calibre.

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02-24-2013, 04:41 PM
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Nobody has made any bold predictions. His career will depend on how well he can improve the rest of his game.

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02-24-2013, 07:33 PM
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His shot certainly will carry over to the NHL, it's deadly.

I hope to one day see him on the half boards during the PP finding open space so well just as Stamkos does. All wishful thinking of course.

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02-24-2013, 08:49 PM
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OHL:
Reid Boucher - 2 goals (1 PP), -3, 3rd star in Sarnia's 6-3 loss vs. Sault Ste. Marie

Ben Johnson - 2 goals (1 PP), +1, 2 PIM (check to head) in Windsor's 8-5 win vs. Erie

Artur Gavrus - DNP in Owen Sound's 3-2 OT win at Barrie
-3 for Boucher in a game in which u score 2 goals?

And I guess Erie is pretty awful.

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Your probably right, he has very little chance of making it. We should focus on guys that really have a chance.

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-3 for Boucher in a game in which u score 2 goals?

And I guess Erie is pretty awful.
1 was a PP so he was on the ice for 4 it appears

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02-24-2013, 10:20 PM
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Anyone keeping up with Wedgewood? His numbers aren't great but his team isn't too good either.

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Why would anyone try to shoot down the kid's potential? Let the people enjoy it.

So many downers around here nowadays.

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2 goals and an assist for Black and 2 assists for Scarlett tonight in Swift Current's 6-1 win over Brandon.

Black has 45 pts in 59 games, Scarlett has 41 in 58.

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Why would anyone try to shoot down the kid's potential? Let the people enjoy it.

So many downers around here nowadays.
Exactly. It's like people want to find a way to talk over and down to people.

"you fool!! don't you know (insert NHL scrub 4th liner) scored at same rate in the same league? How shameful of you!!"

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For all the Boucher bandwagoners:

The player with the most OHL goals in one season is Ernie Godden with 87.

Guess how many NHL games he played?

A whopping 5
This isn't really saying much. First of all, Godden was 5'-8", 160 lbs. Also, 5 games at age 20 is hardly a fair chance to establish yourself in the NHL. He was putting up pretty good numbers in the AHL and the Mapleleafs wouldn't call him up. When he was finally free of his contract, he admittedly made a mistake by signing with an Austrian team. But then he had a career ending knee injury at age 24. We will never know how he would have done in the NHL.

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Anyone keeping up with Wedgewood? His numbers aren't great but his team isn't too good either.
In case you've never watched an echl game, you can pretty much throw out the stats for goalies. They're hung out to dry on practically every shot.

Also in regards to Boucher, I don't think anyone is tryin to say he won't make it, just temper some expectations a bit. The way some people are talking it seems like they expect him to come to the NHL next year and score 30, which is just highly improbable.

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Merrill had three assists and was +5 in Michigan's 6-3 win on Saturday. Although from the highlights, his assists were goals off of individual efforts by the goal scorer and/or bad Ohio State breakdowns.

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In case you've never watched an echl game, you can pretty much throw out the stats for goalies. They're hung out to dry on practically every shot.

Also in regards to Boucher, I don't think anyone is tryin to say he won't make it, just temper some expectations a bit. The way some people are talking it seems like they expect him to come to the NHL next year and score 30, which is just highly improbable.
Nope, never. Thanks.

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What Boucher is doing right now is extremely impressive for an 18-19 year old in his second OHL season. No getting around that.

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