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02-23-2013, 09:44 PM
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I like what i see from him. He is even becoming a little bit nasty outhere!
Power forward...with a dash of Datsyuk.

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02-23-2013, 09:46 PM
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I don't why people keep bringing up JM with Eller in a negative way. Martin spoke highly of Eller last year and used him in key roles despite Martin being a "hater of rookies".

Some players are just more mentally weak than others.
Eller's rookie year in the NHL was poorly handled but that's because he shouldn't have been in the NHL to begin with. Martin actually did a fine job with Eller last year. If there's anyone who should be blamed for messing up his usage, it's Cunneyworth.

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02-23-2013, 09:54 PM
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Therrien on Eller:"Lars earned to be on the top-3 line. He played on PP, gave him a role to kill penalties. He's an important player for us"

Therrien on Galchenyuk:"We decided to put Alex on LW to take away defensive responsibilities. Since we moved him he's doing a good job."

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02-23-2013, 10:09 PM
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As much as I want to say Galchenyuk-Eller-Cole is staying intact when Bourque comes back...I'm having a feeling it won't.

Unless Army is finally scratched and Prust returns to his more traditional role on the 4th line.

Come on MT.
Would be completly stupid to change that line. with Pac-DD-Gally, Bourque-Pleky-Gio and Galch-Eller-Cole, you have 3 lines who can score each night.

Tonight would finaly stop the fuking non-sense about putting Eller with Pac. We have 3 dangerous lines right now, if one doesn't score for on game, the other can do it. You give more time on the PP to the one who is on fire that game, like MT did tonigh with the Eller line and here you go!

And may I ask what the hell is wrong with Subban ice time? At 5v5, Subban should have A LOT more ice time than Markov, heck, even on the PP he should be on the first wave.

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02-23-2013, 10:18 PM
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Would be completly stupid to change that line. with Pac-DD-Gally, Bourque-Pleky-Gio and Galch-Eller-Cole, you have 3 lines who can score each night.

Tonight would finaly stop the fuking non-sense about putting Eller with Pac. We have 3 dangerous lines right now, if one doesn't score for on game, the other can do it. You give more time on the PP to the one who is on fire that game, like MT did tonigh with the Eller line and here you go!

And may I ask what the hell is wrong with Subban ice time? At 5v5, Subban should have A LOT more ice time than Markov, heck, even on the PP he should be on the first wave.
I agree with all of this, three two way lines will make us difficult to play against.

Now the next step is to get Subban playing more.

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02-23-2013, 10:22 PM
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I don't why people keep bringing up JM with Eller in a negative way. Martin spoke highly of Eller last year, acknowledging his potential and calling him a key component of a successful club. He also used him in key roles despite Martin being a "hater of rookies".

Some players are just more mentally weak than others.
Yep, it was Martin that create the Moen-Eller-AK line, he even used them to close a game at one point, in which AK scored a rare empty net goal.

Like the other poster said, it was Cunneyworth that mess with Eller by refusing to use him with AK.

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I don't why people keep bringing up JM with Eller in a negative way. Martin spoke highly of Eller last year, acknowledging his potential and calling him a key component of a successful club. He also used him in key roles despite Martin being a "hater of rookies".

Some players are just more mentally weak than others.
actions speak louder than words.

JM resisted using him in offensive situations and overall kept his ice time limited. Like other young players, Eller played with a very tight leash, exactly the opposite of how you build confidence in anyone. He refused to play him on the PP (Eller started his career, albeit only 7 games, averaging 1:20min/game on the pp... clearly the blues coaches felt the young player had enough offensive ability to warrant a look on the pp. Comes to Mtl with JM, and averages :17/game in his first full year, and then :39s/game his next year - RC also in on that decision making).

Almost all players can benefit from working with a sports psych, if not all, at some point in their careers. and while some players are more mentally weak than others, it is also true that some coaches are worse than others at relating to & bringing out the best of their young players.

Martin's approach to young players & how he distributed ice time was flawed, a relic of the past in terms of ignoring how ready young athletes are to compete in the league talent-wise, but their age/maturity levels requiring more attention/care than in the past.

Hitchcock figured it out, Martin didn't.

Maclean in Ottawa is another great example of a coach who gets it, ditto Boucher in Tampa.

You can't coach with the same old school mentality because the athletes aren't the same & the maturity levels of 20 year olds isn't the same.

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02-23-2013, 10:38 PM
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Elder had one bad games and this thread was all Southern Hab demanding he be on the 4th line.

Now get has 1 good game and we are thinking that he has arrived lol.

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02-23-2013, 10:52 PM
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Elder had one bad games and this thread was all Southern Hab demanding he be on the 4th line.

Now get has 1 good game and we are thinking that he has arrived lol.
It's not one good game.. He's had incredible games all year. This one stands out because he produced.

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02-23-2013, 10:57 PM
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Elder had one bad games and this thread was all Southern Hab demanding he be on the 4th line.

Now get has 1 good game and we are thinking that he has arrived lol.
Its hardly been one game!

from the day he was traded to the Habs there was no denying the kid had talent.

He's been a little slower to develop but you can at least put part of the blame to the orginization that didn't give him a role, shifted him from wing to center and back so many times it was dizzying!

That along with going to a to six to a bottom six to the press box.... Hardly the stability and confidence a young player needs.

Just look at how he's bulked up in the off season and he probably the toughest HAB forward to knock of the puck not to mention his great puck pursuit!

There is a reason Bergevin got so many calls about Eller as soon as he took over!!!

He IS part of the corner and it would/should take a kings ransom to move him!

HE IS A KEEPER IN MY BOOK!

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02-23-2013, 11:06 PM
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Elder had one bad games and this thread was all Southern Hab demanding he be on the 4th line.

Now get has 1 good game and we are thinking that he has arrived lol.
Difference is that Southern Hab bashed Eller for one bad game in 12 games, while we are just continuing to praise Eller like we did in the past 3 weeks because he has been one of our best forwards since he was scratched.

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02-23-2013, 11:08 PM
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All Eller haters, now is the time to re-assess your position!

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02-23-2013, 11:13 PM
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All Eller haters, now is the time to re-assess your position!
I still have the same opinion, Eller is fine where he is, with Galchenyuk and cole/prust, getting some PP. Would be useless to switch him with DD. We have 3 lines who can score, that's why we are so succefull this year. Last game, it was DD line, tonight Eller line, next game might be Pleky.

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02-23-2013, 11:14 PM
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Seriously, he's improved leaps and bounds from last year. Don't be surprised to see him on the top 2 lines as soon as next year. Good forechecker, pretty nice and a much better playmaker than I thought. I don't expect the team to play such a high level of hockey for the whole year but it's great to see the young guys build their confidence and develop properly.

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02-23-2013, 11:21 PM
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FIRST TIME SINCE ELLER ENTER THE NHL

First time that Eller got 2 quality players as winger. Best he got so far was Moen and AK46.
First time he's on the top 2 line on the powerplay

This is the first time you see Eller being actually used as a second center.

FIRST TIME

That is what i called: getting his chances....A REAL CHANCE.
The results are there.

Now....i hope Therrien will continue......

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02-23-2013, 11:26 PM
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FIRST TIME SINCE ELLER ENTER THE NHL

First time that Eller got 2 quality players as winger. Best he got so far was Moen and AK46.
First time he's on the top 2 line on the powerplay

This is the first time you see Eller being actually used as a second center.

FIRST TIME

That is what i called: getting his chances....A REAL CHANCE.
The results are there.

Now....i hope Therrien will continue......
For all the time we've been crying for Eller to get a chance Now he gets it and produces like MAAAAAAAAAD

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02-23-2013, 11:27 PM
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FIRST TIME SINCE ELLER ENTER THE NHL

First time that Eller got 2 quality players as winger. Best he got so far was Moen and AK46.
First time he's on the top 2 line on the powerplay

This is the first time you see Eller being actually used as a second center.

FIRST TIME

That is what i called: getting his chances....A REAL CHANCE.
The results are there.

Now....i hope Therrien will continue......
Well, unlike Carbonneau who just loved juggling his lines and Martin who only liked veteran players, Therrien seems to have a system of meritocracy in place. You play well, you get ice time. You work and try hard, you get rewarded. So far it pays off. Still don't understand why Subban doesn't play more though.

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02-23-2013, 11:30 PM
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I don't get why people thought Eller had no skill. I still remember a goal he had against Calgary. He was falling down and he got that shot off and beat Kiprusoff. And of course, skilless players don't have 4 goal games like he had against Winnipeg.

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02-23-2013, 11:35 PM
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Elder had one bad games and this thread was all Southern Hab demanding he be on the 4th line.

Now get has 1 good game and we are thinking that he has arrived lol.

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I don't get why people thought Eller had no skill. I still remember a goal he had against Calgary. He was falling down and he got that shot off and beat Kiprusoff. And of course, skilless players don't have 4 goal games like he had against Winnipeg.
Exactly.. anyone who tries to say Eller had no offensive skills should never even dream about being a scout at any level of hockey. It's been obvious that he's had the tools for a while, it's just about using them to produce. It's only his third full year in the league.. some players bloom offensively later than others.

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For all the time we've been crying for Eller to get a chance Now he gets it and produces like MAAAAAAAAAD
He's not mad, he's Mads bro.

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Great streak by Eller. Really happy about it. We need everyone on the team to be at their best.

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Lars Eller explique que le psychologue Sylvain Guimond est en partie responsable de ses succès. T'es fort doc.

Eller credits team psychologist for part of his success.
Sylvain hypnotised Eller and told him he was Guy Lafleur


Eller is looking good with Gally. They should keep those two together and change up center duties between the both deprnding on the circumstances. Both are young and can slowly learn and maybe become the 1-2 punch down the middle in a couple of years. Leblanc can be number three as a defensive specialist if he can gain some muscle.

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02-23-2013, 11:59 PM
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Just finished watching the game on DVR.

Outstanding game by Eller. I was impressed.

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Just finished watching the game on DVR.

Outstanding game by Eller. I was impressed.
Good enough for the 4th line?

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