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02-24-2013, 02:02 AM
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Wow...no.
Wow you seriously didn't get the sarcasm/irony in that post?

Or maybe you didn't see the white text until you quoted?

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I'll trade you Bennet, Maata, Blugers, Keneddy and a 2013 1st round pik for Vanik

I'm not grammar nazi, but c'mon
to be fair, Vanek's contract at this point IS nicer looking than Iginla's contract (12G 13A opposed to 1G 10A)

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Wow you seriously didn't get the sarcasm/irony in that post?

Or maybe you didn't see the white text until you quoted?
I did, but yeah this thread already is out of hand. This is just making it worse, yes I know it was a joke.

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to be fair, Vanek's contract at this point IS nicer looking than Iginla's contract (12G 13A opposed to 1G 10A)
Iginla is a UFA at the end of the year and will likely be a lesser cap hit, if the Pens can get him as a UFA and he produces like old Iginla for a much lesser cap hit, then the whole cap hit thing changes.

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Iginla is a UFA at the end of the year and will likely be a lesser cap hit, if the Pens can get him as a UFA and he produces like old Iginla for a much lesser cap hit, then the whole cap hit thing changes.
still, Vanek's contract looks better when he's producing the way he should be for $7M...

it would take a miracle and some unprecedented seduction by Shero to even sniff Vanek though. it would take less than that to lure Iginla away (if he wants to win a Cup this season or soon)

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02-24-2013, 02:18 AM
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still, Vanek's contract looks better when he's producing the way he should be for $7M...

it would take a miracle and some unprecedented seduction by Shero to even sniff Vanek though. it would take less than that to lure Iginla away (if he wants to win a Cup this season or soon)
Cap drops next year, that Vanek contract could mess things up for the Malkin & Letang extensions for the following year.

For that reason, I'd want Vanek, but it doesn't work.

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Cap drops next year, that Vanek contract could mess things up for the Malkin & Letang extensions for the following year.

For that reason, I'd want Vanek, but it doesn't work.
Not for sale tho. Right now he's the only player on our roster teams have to plan for. Only way he's on the block is if he won't re-sign when his contract expires, which Regier probably won't really know until he can start negotiating with him.

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What about maata, niskanen and a 1st
If you throw in Marcus Foligno too...Niskanen would be one of your go to guys on defense, if TK is good enough a throw in for Pominville, I'd be asking for another forward coming back for Niskanen.

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Pominville is one of Buffalo's best players (7 goals, 8 assists this season, 30 goals, 43 assists last season AND he stayed healthy all last season).

Since the Sabres are struggling.. I'd do it for a 1st round pick.

There is a chance it could be completely one sided. Pittsburgh does have some elite scorers, Crosby, Malkin etc.. then add Pommer to the mix. If the first round pick ends up not NHL-ready then Buffalo could be screwed.

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Pominville is one of Buffalo's best players (7 goals, 8 assists this season, 30 goals, 43 assists last season AND he stayed healthy all last season).

Since the Sabres are struggling.. I'd do it for a 1st round pick.

There is a chance it could be completely one sided. Pittsburgh does have some elite scorers, Crosby, Malkin etc.. then add Pommer to the mix. If the first round pick ends up not NHL-ready then Buffalo could be screwed.
i think my offer facilitated that just fine but i will admit that i like your offer more

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Pominville is one of Buffalo's best players (7 goals, 8 assists this season, 30 goals, 43 assists last season AND he stayed healthy all last season).

Since the Sabres are struggling.. I'd do it for a 1st round pick.

There is a chance it could be completely one sided. Pittsburgh does have some elite scorers, Crosby, Malkin etc.. then add Pommer to the mix. If the first round pick ends up not NHL-ready then Buffalo could be screwed.
Your offer is amazing, the Pens say "**** YES!!!!" run with the deal, and don't look back

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Your offer is amazing, the Pens say "**** YES!!!!" run with the deal, and don't look back
Are there any D-men the Pens would trade?

To Pittsburgh:
Pominville

To Buffalo:
1st round pick
defensemen from Pittsburgh?

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Are there any D-men the Pens would trade?

To Pittsburgh:
Pominville

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1st round pick
defensemen from Pittsburgh?
yes, Niskanen. He's been very good. Pens fans like him. The only reason we're "willing" to move him is because we'd like to see Simon Despres get more minutes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with him otherwise. (I'm only telling you this because Niskanen has popped up in a ton of proposals lately and someone is bound to say, "Boy, Pens fans are desperate to get rid of this guy")

We have strength - defense and D prospects. We'd like to move that to get top-6 help.

I would do a 1st, Niskanen, and an extra piece for Pominville.

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Are there any D-men the Pens would trade?

To Pittsburgh:
Pominville

To Buffalo:
1st round pick
defensemen from Pittsburgh?
Prospects? Yes.
Roster d-men. Maybe if we get another player back.

How bout this.

To Pittsburgh:
Pominville
Foligno
Mark Mancari

To Buffalo:
1st round pick
3rd round pick
Tyler Kennedy
Matt Niskanen

Fair?

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yes, Niskanen. He's been very good. Pens fans like him. The only reason we're "willing" to move him is because we'd like to see Simon Despres get more minutes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with him otherwise. (I'm only telling you this because Niskanen has popped up in a ton of proposals lately and someone is bound to say, "Boy, Pens fans are desperate to get rid of this guy")

We have strength - defense and D prospects. We'd like to move that to get top-6 help.

I would do a 1st, Niskanen, and an extra piece for Pominville.
Exactly this, I think my proposal is fair, but giving up Foligno and Mancari might not go well with Sabres fans

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Prospects? Yes.
Roster d-men. Maybe if we get another player back.

How bout this.

To Pittsburgh:
Pominville
Foligno
Mark Mancari

To Buffalo:
1st round pick
3rd round pick
Tyler Kennedy
Matt Niskanen

Fair?
one of the worst ive seen

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Any Sabres fans comment on Regehr's play this season? He's a rental so I could see why you'd be willing to move him, but is he still a top 4 D on a contender?

If so, I'd do Niskanen+Maatta/1st+TK for Pominville+Regehr.

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Fine, take out Mancari...Niskanen is a valuable piece, and I guarantee Sabres fans would appreciate him way more than we do, and he'd be a go to guy, playing with Myers, Regher or Leopold.

Give me your proposal.

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Pominville is one of Buffalo's best players (7 goals, 8 assists this season, 30 goals, 43 assists last season AND he stayed healthy all last season).

Since the Sabres are struggling.. I'd do it for a 1st round pick.

There is a chance it could be completely one sided. Pittsburgh does have some elite scorers, Crosby, Malkin etc.. then add Pommer to the mix. If the first round pick ends up not NHL-ready then Buffalo could be screwed.
you know that pick is 20-30 right? Buffalo obviously doesn't consider moving their captain and 2nd best player for a late first

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Fine, take out Mancari...Niskanen is a valuable piece, and I guarantee Sabres fans would appreciate him way more than we do, and he'd be a go to guy, playing with Myers, Regher or Leopold.

Give me your proposal.
Mancari has no value

I would guess that both Regehr and Leopold won't be with the Sabres in the future.

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Any Sabres fans comment on Regehr's play this season? He's a rental so I could see why you'd be willing to move him, but is he still a top 4 D on a contender?
I don't think so, but he would be a great player to have on a contending team. Especially late in games or on the PK

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Mancari has no value

I would guess that both Regehr and Leopold won't be with the Sabres in the future.
So what was wrong with my proposal

I'm willing to take a guy with no value, giving you a building block on defense, a first round pick, which may be a late pick, but look how Depres turned out for us...many late picks are doing quite well...

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So what was wrong with my proposal

I'm willing to take a guy with no value, giving you a building block on defense, a first round pick, which may be a late pick, but look how Depres turned out for us...many late picks are doing quite well...
because Pominville is our captain, he has been a 60+ point player for his career, he has gotten better the last few years. He is our best 2 way foward, he plays every situation, he has this year and next on his contract, he loves being in buffalo. he is one of only 2 foward who we can count on offensively. Use you little smilies all you want but look at it from Buffalo's pov as well as Pittsburgh, we are not just gonna hand you are most reliable player. It's quite obvious you know little about Buffalo's organization or players.

Now tell me why we would trade that for a less than great offer?

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Prospects? Yes.
Roster d-men. Maybe if we get another player back.

How bout this.

To Pittsburgh:
Pominville
Foligno
Mark Mancari

To Buffalo:
1st round pick
3rd round pick
Tyler Kennedy
Matt Niskanen

Fair?
So what are you giving up for Foligno? That's right around what it would take to get Pominville alone. Buffalo doesn't touch this. Also, I'm dying laughing that anyone could think Mark Mancari has any value. He's a AAAA player, org. filler. It's not like you're doing the Sabres a favor by taking away a player on an AHL contract. He has value to the Americans.


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Any Sabres fans comment on Regehr's play this season? He's a rental so I could see why you'd be willing to move him, but is he still a top 4 D on a contender?

If so, I'd do Niskanen+Maatta/1st+TK for Pominville+Regehr.
Definitely not, he could be of use in a 3rd pairing / PK role with limited minutes but there's no way you want him playing that much. He has the worst Shots Against while player is on ice for all defensemen in the league, over 38 per 60 minutes of even strength. The funny part is he's actually starting in the offensive zone over half of the time (well done Lindy) so it's not like he's getting a ton of defensive zone starts to explain the high totals (like he should because he has zero offensive ability).

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