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02-23-2013, 10:03 PM
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The Oilers would be much improved with 3 grittier, late 20s/early 30s forwards to replace Hemsky/Gagner, Horcoff and Smyth in the top 9.

Boston landed Horton and Greg Campbell for a 1st, 3rd and Dennis Wideman. That's the sort of deal this team (and every team) needs.

There are some targets out there. Okposo comes to mind.
I agree , but you get fans , like the one on the main board asking what we could get for our vets ? Only way we should be trading any of them is to bring in physical , 2 way guys . We need to get better or keep what we have . We can not put young guy after young young guy into our line up we need some stability with this team . Let them grow and develop so chemistry .

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02-23-2013, 10:16 PM
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eh, this is essentially an exhibition season

Next season will be telling of what Koach kan do.

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02-23-2013, 11:29 PM
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Coaching isn't the problem. An imbalanced, il-constructed, Swedish Elite League lineup is, which sits, completely, on the shoulders of management
Yeah I agree.

Too many coaches being rotated and not enough managers.

Give Krueger at the very least until the start of next season.

Although Ruff being available....

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02-24-2013, 01:21 AM
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all this questioning of Krueger benching Yak late. didn't we win the game? he preserved the tie, and won in a shootout, knowing the Yotes had 2 top shooters out.

pick your battles whe your argument has a leg to stand on.

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02-24-2013, 01:56 AM
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This is the response around here when the team struggles:



Seriously, it's been 17 games. Let's just calm down here. Yes, maybe he benched Yak in favour of Smyth near the end of the game, but Smyth was creating chances all game, and IMO deserved the ice time he was given.

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02-24-2013, 02:04 AM
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Once we've finished conquering all the coaches of the NHL, we can maybe consider that our GM has flunk poop at the wall and hoped it would shape itself into art.

I think it's safe to say that it isn't a coaching issue, but an issue with the kinds of players we have here surrounding the young stars. They just aren't that good.

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02-24-2013, 05:14 AM
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You know guys i would like to apologize.

Despite winning i was pretty pissed post game, i was definitely to hard on Krueger, and was being uncharacteristically pessimistic. This board is usually pretty negative but i like to think i'm usually pretty positive. Don't get me wrong i'm still all for firing Krueger and i still think we'd be doing better right now if he wasn't the coach. But i understand we really should give him more time, as it stamds the oil aren't to far out of a playoff spot we are playing poorly but still look decent in the standings.

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02-24-2013, 05:42 AM
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You know that we've only played 17 games right?

You also know that we had practically no pre-season for the coaches to help players adjust to a new system, right?

I hope that you've forgotten both of these things prior to starting this thread...

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02-24-2013, 11:32 AM
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And the practice lines for today are.....


The same lines that didn't work yesterday!

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02-24-2013, 11:42 AM
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And the practice lines for today are.....


The same lines that didn't work yesterday!
Oh goodie! Let smyth play 1st line minutes again.

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02-24-2013, 11:47 AM
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And the practice lines for today are.....


The same lines that didn't work yesterday!
yeah this makes no sense.... a blind idiot could see that the lines weren't working yesterday, yet krueger sticks with them just because we won? inexcusable coaching decision

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02-24-2013, 11:53 AM
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yeah this makes no sense.... a blind idiot could see that the lines weren't working yesterday, yet krueger sticks with them just because we won? inexcusable coaching decision
The lines had nothing to do with the win. It was a pp goal and a goal where yakupov was on eberles line for long enough to hustle to the puck and feed ebs in the crease.

Krueger is starting to become very hard to understand

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02-24-2013, 11:55 AM
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At some point, its beyond the coach when we have been through how many the last few years?

Im ok with a year or 2 with Krueger but if nothing happens, I was a cup champion coach. Hopefully Quinvelle

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02-24-2013, 11:59 AM
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MPS couldn't score in the AHL. I doubt that Krueger (or Renney) has stunted his career .... that's all on Magnus and his marginal talent.
Yeah 15 goals in his rookie year with limited ice time and 3rd line minutes and suspect linemates certainly attests that.

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02-24-2013, 12:03 PM
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This thread is hilarious. First of all, Smyth has played well since he was scratched (which he deserved). Second, Krueger is the reason our bottom three powerplay and penalty kill are so much better. Third, I don't see how a new coach could get the top line to start scoring. This thread is ridiculous.

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02-24-2013, 12:06 PM
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this is what frustrates me about kreuger.. he is just a stubborn mother ****er.

how about use the lines from yesterday that actually gave us success and scored like the yak - nuge - eberle line?

but no. that would make too much sense.

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02-24-2013, 12:17 PM
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Remember when Kruger was applauded for sitting out veterans?

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02-24-2013, 12:23 PM
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Yeah 15 goals in his rookie year with limited ice time and 3rd line minutes and suspect linemates certainly attests that.
Anomaly...ever heard of it? Why do we consistently blame the coaches and the GM when the onus mostly falls on the player to develop his skills properly?

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02-24-2013, 12:26 PM
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Yeah 15 goals in his rookie year with limited ice time and 3rd line minutes and suspect linemates certainly attests that.
By that logic Andrew Cogliano is.... you see how that works?

I wonder if this team should just go coachless, let the players make the decisions for themselves, because clearly these coaches are just in the way.

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02-24-2013, 01:10 PM
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After 30, 30, 29 I think a 25-20 place finish this year is a good jump. Reasonable.

Krueger is known to be a good communicator. I am sure he has dialogue with his players concerning their TOI.

There is a whole hell of a lot more going on in games and practices than what we are privy to watching on telly.

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02-24-2013, 01:31 PM
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I do not think that Coach K should be fired, I just have a hard time understanding what he is trying to do. He preached that unlike Renney he was going to coach to WIN not coach not to lose. Yet he does the exact opposite during a game.

Its early so maybe there is a bigger picture I am not seeing. Maybe it will reveal itself over the next 30 games

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Coaching for the Bettman point seems to be benefitting Western teams this shortened season.

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02-24-2013, 01:39 PM
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Yeah 15 goals in his rookie year with limited ice time and 3rd line minutes and suspect linemates certainly attests that.
And its all someone else's fault that he can't score even 5 goals since. If he's so damn good, why hasn't he, oh I don't know, shot the puck past a goalie more often?
Paajarvi is what he is because of himself.

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02-24-2013, 02:07 PM
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I do not think that Coach K should be fired, I just have a hard time understanding what he is trying to do. He preached that unlike Renney he was going to coach to WIN not coach not to lose. Yet he does the exact opposite during a game.

Its early so maybe there is a bigger picture I am not seeing. Maybe it will reveal itself over the next 30 games
I think for the most part he has coached to win, but yesterday it was clear he was coaching not to lose.

I think he really wanted at least one point out of the game before going on the never ending road trip.

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02-24-2013, 02:18 PM
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This thread is hilarious. First of all, Smyth has played well since he was scratched (which he deserved). Second, Krueger is the reason our bottom three powerplay and penalty kill are so much better. Third, I don't see how a new coach could get the top line to start scoring. This thread is ridiculous.
If by hilarious you mean pathetic then I fully agree... Kruger is an awesome coach and his ability to read situation and adapt are better than anyone we had in a decade.
The guy is not afraid to sit you out if you are not performing and reward you if you are playing good.. Smyth a perfect example..
I actually wouldnt be surprised to see Yakupov sit up on the PB for a game two..

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