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02-24-2013, 10:20 AM
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Why don't we just group all of the Original Six teams together and throw in Brooklyn or some **** three years down the road?!


Stop calling them Brooklyn.

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02-24-2013, 10:24 AM
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Where does the tv part come in? What will be different than the way it is now and what is the financial benefit to the networks that wasn't there before? You come here saying this is the only reason for this garbage alignment, well, please elaborate on that statement.
The benefit to the networks is

1) The RSNs all get more natural local start times. For CSN, it is beneficial to them to have less games starting at 9-9:30p. Because less people stay awake for those.

2) The national nets, NBC(sn), CBC, TSN, get more marquee match ups out of this. Now the Hawks will play NYR/PHI/PIT/WSH/BUF on a more regular basis which is fantastic if you're NBC.

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Detroit's biggest rival is the team that hasn't been in their division for like 15 years.

It sucks that we can't pound them in the ground for the next 10 years. St Louis and Chicago are so pissed right now that Detroit is in mediocrity and getting worse and now they get to escape our grasp. With Chicago and St Louis in the same division as Detroit, they wouldn't have won a division title in at least 10 years IMO.
Yeah, in the end, this is why I am so pissed. Have been looking for these days since I was a child, where the Hawks could finally pound that team into the ground. And now they're taking it away from me

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02-24-2013, 12:02 PM
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Maybe it's just not having a playoff match up in a while or not many players I dislike on Detroit but I don't get very pumped for their games. St. Louis, VC and Sharks are much better rivals at this point.

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02-24-2013, 12:18 PM
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My guess is NHL believes somehow they will save Pho in longrun

Also leave open spots for KC/Sea in next round of expansion

QC appears to not be on NHL radar at this time

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02-24-2013, 12:34 PM
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My guess is NHL believes somehow they will save Pho in longrun

Also leave open spots for KC/Sea in next round of expansion

QC appears to not be on NHL radar at this time
Maybe not, but Hamilton/Markham slots perfectly into Toronto's conference.

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Maybe not, but Hamilton/Markham slots perfectly into Toronto's conference.
Maybe Hamilton, but def not Markham, at least not in the near future.

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02-24-2013, 12:41 PM
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Maybe Hamilton, but def not Markham, at least not in the near future.
Do you not understand geography? Lord.

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My guess is NHL believes somehow they will save Pho in longrun

Also leave open spots for KC/Sea in next round of expansion

QC appears to not be on NHL radar at this time
I'd say this is a fact. Our conference would get Kansas City, and the other conference out west would get Seattle.

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There is way less of a chance of Hamilton than there is Markham, but both are huge longshots.

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KC has no owner. It's not gonna happen.

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02-24-2013, 12:50 PM
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There is way less of a chance of Hamilton than there is Markham, but both are huge longshots.
I say Seattle is going to probably happen. The new Sonics will get a great arena, and I'm sure it will be able to host NHL games. Kansas City is a tough one, though. I'm not sure of that working as a hockey market. The Sprint Center is fantastic. I know people who have been there. If Quebec City gets a team, then you have to kick a team like Columbus over to our conference to make it more geographically correct.

We'll see what happens, though.

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02-24-2013, 12:51 PM
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KC has no owner. It's not gonna happen.
This is also why it is tough. It's questionable as to whether or not it will be successful and for the fact there's no owner at this point.

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02-24-2013, 12:52 PM
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Any re-alignment without Detroit staying would jsut suck.

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KC has no owner. It's not gonna happen.
Well they will have a few years to look for one

Also maybe Houston re-enteres the picture ,, Les Alexander tried to get a team there badly for years only to have his plans thwarted at last second

Would be happy to see Houston enter NHL

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02-24-2013, 12:59 PM
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The Toyota Center would work if Houston were to emerge. It holds over 18K.

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I mean, Houston is the fourth largest city in America. It would make sense to try to make it work once.

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I say Seattle is going to probably happen. The new Sonics will get a great arena, and I'm sure it will be able to host NHL games. Kansas City is a tough one, though. I'm not sure of that working as a hockey market. The Sprint Center is fantastic. I know people who have been there. If Quebec City gets a team, then you have to kick a team like Columbus over to our conference to make it more geographically correct.

We'll see what happens, though.
Yeah, Seattle is pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point. New building on the horizon, and a couple of different ownership groups ready to go.

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I mean, Houston is the fourth largest city in America. It would make sense to try to make it work once.
The issue with Houston has always been that Les Alexander would have to own it. Something with the arena agreement stipulates that, I don't understand all the deets.

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02-24-2013, 01:04 PM
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You guys are honestly the only thing in the West I'll miss if the current realignment happens. I wish there was a way to bring you with us!

St. Louis: 2+ decades of that cheap shot artistry is enough, thanks.

Nashville: Grinding style isn't healthy for our geriatrics.

Colorado: Rivalry is very dead.

Anaheim: See St. Louis, just shorter term.

Everyone else: Meh, whatever.

I guess the upside of the proposed conference is that I'll get to root for the Hawks more. But really, I wish they'd leave Columbus in the west and reunite all 3 of Toronto, Chicago, and Detroit in that division. Chicago should get pecking rights over that newfangled team, and really, would you guys miss St. Louis either?

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02-24-2013, 01:07 PM
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I'd love if the Hawks went with and would see the time difference as a major benefit. Almost every game would be between 6-7:30.

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I'd love if the Hawks went with and would see the time difference as a major benefit. Almost every game would be between 6-7:30.
Being in the Central or the Wings division wouldn't make any difference. As it's set up, all the division games are in the central except Columbus. I'd rather have 3 games start at 8 than a whole bunch starting at 6. If we were in that one or this one, we'd still have the same amount of west coast games.

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02-24-2013, 01:20 PM
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The 6 ones would be great for me. I hate waiting for the game to start. Plus people who DVR the games would get to take advantage of that more.

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02-24-2013, 01:23 PM
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The issue with Houston has always been that Les Alexander would have to own it. Something with the arena agreement stipulates that, I don't understand all the deets.
Les Alexander was stung by the denial of his expansion bid (After his purchase of Oilers ended at the last minute by rescue effort in Edmonton)

Problem last round of expansion was that there were multiple bids from Houston and no arena deal in works yet. Too much uncertainty at time (Remember Rockets could have been relocated if no new arena deal came forward)

Hasn't tried to get an NHL team in Houston since ,, I am hopeful he gives it another try but he isn't exactly getting any younger

I believe he is now nearly 70 years old

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I can understand why you guys would be upset not being in the same conference as Detroit. When Nebraska left the Big 12 they lost a big rivalry with Oklahoma so i get where you are coming from. IMO this new Central conference looks pretty good and will make for some great new rivalries. As for the guy who asked where Winnipeg is just ask your Captain he might be able to help you out with that

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