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02-24-2013, 03:23 AM
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I had a Coyotes fan agree to Filppula + 2nd (conditional on him resigning in Phoenix) for Michalek and Rundblad.

I don't know how realistic that is, but I'd do it from a Wings perspective. Michalek is a top 4 shutdown guy with RH shot and Rundblad is the kind of player who might really benefit in moving away from Tippett.

Nyquist can take Flippula's spot.
I love it. Would do it in a heartbeat.

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Kronwall to Minnesota for Dumba+Setoguchi, Scandella could be included if you want.
What would it take for the Oilers to add Kronwall ?

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02-24-2013, 08:43 AM
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If I'm Kenny I hold on to Pavel, Z, Kron, Brunner, Helm and the U24 players. The rest I'd move for the right deal.

I would rather take picks over prospects in return for the most part, since we have so many prospects playing in the pros already. You can never have too many good prospects, but you can have too many contracts. If there is a forward prospect coming or way, he better bring size to the table. For any defenseman, preferably a right-handed shot.

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02-24-2013, 08:44 AM
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What would it take for the Oilers to add Kronwall ?
I don't see us as good trading partners. Oilers haven't finished their rebuild yet and I think they'd like to keep their prospects and picks.

But Klefbom and 1st would do it for me. Oilers get robbed but we need Kronwall, unless we are going for all-out rebuild.

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Flip + 2nd for Rundbland and Mich

Franzen for Kassian

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02-24-2013, 09:32 AM
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Franzen for Kassian
No thanks. Our current mantra is to get bigger and younger. Trading away our budding 21-year old power forward who currently leads our team in goals isn't really an option.

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What would it take for the Oilers to add Kronwall ?
Other than Smid you guys don't really have anything we want/ need.

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Other than Smid you guys don't really have anything we want/ need.

I wouldn't mind Shultz #19

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No thanks. Our current mantra is to get bigger and younger. Trading away our budding 21-year old power forward who currently leads our team in goals isn't really an option.


I agree but your team is build to win now (next 2-3 years) while Sedins are still "young". Franzen could really help you guys

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02-24-2013, 10:57 AM
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I wouldn't mind Shultz #19
We have enough guys who lack skill on the defensive side of things.

Good player, but not what we need.

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We have enough guys who lack skill on the defensive side of things.

Good player, but not what we need.
Just because a guy is putting up good stats offensively from the back end, doesnt mean he's a detriment defensively.

Everyone would love to have him.

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Under normal circumstances I would only trade Helm if the right player is coming back to the Wings. That being said, the guy is flying to NY to see a specialist about his back. Back problems and hockey do not mesh well together and can stick around for life. He may not even play a game this year. Is it time to consider trading him while his stock is still relatively high?

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Just because a guy is putting up good stats offensively from the back end, doesnt mean he's a detriment defensively.

Everyone would love to have him.
There's no doubt we'd love to get him but when it doesn't address a major need it's not a smart move. It'd be better if we spend the assets to address a need we do have then one we don't.

If we were to target a dman on the Oilers I'd hope it's Smid, the guy is a rock defensively & he would give us a legit top pairing with Kronwall. It sucks that the Oilers won't be moving him.

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02-24-2013, 01:01 PM
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Teuvo Teravainen, 2013 1st, Dylan Olsen. Right now. Lets do it.
Why? A couple years of Datsyuk and maybe another Cup isn't worth getting rid of maybe our best forward prospect and a great d prospect. I'd rather see how they pan out and see if we could have multiple shots at another Cup.

You know if we traded TT to Detroit he'd be amazing there. I don't want that to happen. The price Holland would ask for Datsyuk even as a rental would be too high for the Hawks to consider. This is why teams should not trade in their own division, especially to their biggest division rival.

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02-24-2013, 01:04 PM
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Why? A couple years of Datsyuk and maybe another Cup isn't worth getting rid of maybe our best forward prospect and a great d prospect. I'd rather see how they pan out and see if we could have multiple shots at another Cup.

You know if we traded TT to Detroit he'd be amazing there. I don't want that to happen. The price Holland would ask for Datsyuk even as a rental would be too high for the Hawks to consider.
Seriously?

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02-24-2013, 01:07 PM
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Seriously?
Seriously. The Hawks have had a lot of success developing young talent lately. Why stray from the system and trade some of it away?

Datsyuk is an amazing player, but trading for him guarantees nothing. We're doing fine, I'd rather stay the course.

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If Detroit is a seller, it's not going to be for prospects and Holland isn't going to trade any significant roster players. He's too conservative.

Biggest trade I could see happening is Filppula for a young defenseman.

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There's no doubt we'd love to get him but when it doesn't address a major need it's not a smart move. It'd be better if we spend the assets to address a need we do have then one we don't.

If we were to target a dman on the Oilers I'd hope it's Smid, the guy is a rock defensively & he would give us a legit top pairing with Kronwall. It sucks that the Oilers won't be moving him.
They're not moving the puck out of their zone as well as they have in the past. Their transition game is horrid compared to. Schultz would eliminate a quarter of that. It'll never happen, but that's a glaring need with Detroit.

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Isnt Howard a free agent?

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02-24-2013, 01:31 PM
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Isnt Howard a free agent?
Yes, and unavailable.

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Isnt Howard a free agent?
Yes, and of course he is available

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They're not moving the puck out of their zone as well as they have in the past. Their transition game is horrid compared to. Schultz would eliminate a quarter of that. It'll never happen, but that's a glaring need with Detroit.
It also has something to do with the quality of forwards their playing, which isn't very good. A PMD is a need but nowhere near as big a need as a good shutdown dman. We'll have to agree to disagree on that front.

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It also has something to do with the quality of forwards their playing, which isn't very good. A PMD is a need but nowhere near as big a need as a good shutdown dman. We'll have to agree to disagree on that front.
Fair enough. It's just not their organizational philosophy. First and foremost they go after guys that can move the puck. If they end up being a Brad Stuart, that's great but they would've never acquired him if he didnt move the puck well out of his own end.

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02-24-2013, 02:12 PM
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Yes, and of course he is available
You can wake up now.

Howard wont be available for another 2-3 years, at the very least.

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Under normal circumstances I would only trade Helm if the right player is coming back to the Wings. That being said, the guy is flying to NY to see a specialist about his back. Back problems and hockey do not mesh well together and can stick around for life. He may not even play a game this year. Is it time to consider trading him while his stock is still relatively high?
Can't be traded while injured. Would need to go through physical.

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