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07-16-2006, 08:51 PM
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trade suggestion for bob gainy.

if bob is having a hard time signing ryder because of his high demand in salary, why not use him in a trade to upgrade your size up front.

to nashville : ryder, ribeiro and a 3rd round draft pick 2007
to montreal : hartnell and legwand and a 2nd round for 2007


both ryder and ribeiro have put up better numbers than these 2, but hartnell is a big
power forward who's game is better rounded defensively and coming on offensively.as for legwand putting him at center between samsonov and kovalev will
only see him bring his game to the next level. Legwand is a much better skater than
ribeiro and more responsable defensively not to mention bigger physically.

i don't know what both players from nashville were making last season and i know
they are both restricted free agents and have yet to sign with nashville, but i think
between both of them i would suspect around 3.5 to 4 million for both.


what do you guys all think about this suggestion.

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07-16-2006, 09:00 PM
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Hartnell >> Ryder
Legwand >>>>>>>>> Ribeiro
2nd > 3rd


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if bob is having a hard time signing ryder because of his high demand in salary, why not use him in a trade to upgrade your size up front.

to nashville : ryder, ribeiro and a 3rd round draft pick 2007
to montreal : hartnell and legwand and a 2nd round for 2007


both ryder and ribeiro have put up better numbers than these 2, but hartnell is a big
power forward who's game is better rounded defensively and coming on offensively.as for legwand putting him at center between samsonov and kovalev will
only see him bring his game to the next level. Legwand is a much better skater than
ribeiro and more responsable defensively not to mention bigger physically.

i don't know what both players from nashville were making last season and i know
they are both restricted free agents and have yet to sign with nashville, but i think
between both of them i would suspect around 3.5 to 4 million for both.


what do you guys all think about this suggestion.

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07-16-2006, 09:04 PM
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Hartnell is still young but I think Ryder is better then Hartnell

if you look at the stats ryder make more points in the two first season of is career then hartnell.... the better have to come


http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...id%5B%5D=31033

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why not

montreal : Radulov
Nashville : Souray , 1st 2007 pick and 3rd 2007 pick(from washinton)

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ide do it

of course, poile needs to be really drunk

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ryder is one dimensional, defensive liability
hartnell's stats are improving with each season, is strong defensively and is considered a power forward. legwand has underachieved so far still young at 25
also 6'2" and plays center. everybody nocks ribeiro's skating and lack of toughness
and here you have the chance to unload him for a player that will cost you less and
probably produce as much.

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I guess not such a bad proposal but we should give more or settle for less

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why not

montreal : Radulov
Nashville : Souray , 1st 2007 pick and 3rd 2007 pick(from washinton)
because having seen Radulov a few times in the Q, he had tremendous talent but a hell of a bad temper when he takes a hit or middes a play, he is that kind of moody player who won't showup when hw does not feel like it... he won't be the player everyone except him to be...

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ryder is one dimensional, defensive liability
hartnell's stats are improving with each season, is strong defensively and is considered a power forward. legwand has underachieved so far still young at 25
also 6'2" and plays center. everybody nocks ribeiro's skating and lack of toughness
and here you have the chance to unload him for a player that will cost you less and
probably produce as much.
So, going with what you say, you want to trade a one dimensional offensive player who is a defensive liability (Ryder) and Ribeiro who has trouble with his skating and lacks toughness (Ribeiro) for a power forward who's strong defensively and whose stats improves with each season (Hartnell) and a 6'2'' underachieving but still young center ... man you want to hose them hard

Now, pause for a moment, and ask yourself, would the other GM want this trade to happen ??

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and what did Bob Gainey answer to ypur proposition ?

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if bob is having a hard time signing ryder because of his high demand in salary, why not use him in a trade to upgrade your size up front.

to nashville : ryder, ribeiro and a 3rd round draft pick 2007
to montreal : hartnell and legwand and a 2nd round for 2007


both ryder and ribeiro have put up better numbers than these 2, but hartnell is a big
power forward who's game is better rounded defensively and coming on offensively.as for legwand putting him at center between samsonov and kovalev will
only see him bring his game to the next level. Legwand is a much better skater than
ribeiro and more responsable defensively not to mention bigger physically.

i don't know what both players from nashville were making last season and i know
they are both restricted free agents and have yet to sign with nashville, but i think
between both of them i would suspect around 3.5 to 4 million for both.


what do you guys all think about this suggestion.
he's going in salary arbitration, don't see any problem

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Hartnell >> Ryder
Legwand >>>>>>>>> Ribeiro
2nd > 3rd


ribeiro is a lot better than legwand , you can hate ribeiro but ....

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ribeiro is a lot better than legwand , you can hate ribeiro but ....
I'll bet trading Legwand would bring in more in return.

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I'll bet trading Legwand would bring in more in return.
He never scored 50 pts in a year in 6 full seasons in the NHL while Ribeiro did it twice in his first 2 full seasons and they were drafted the same year, Legwand second overall and Ribs a second rounder.

All Legwand has over Ribeiro is speed.

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the word from ryders agent is there about 500,000 apart.

i belive ryder is looking for 2.5 million .

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He never scored 50 pts in a year in 6 full seasons in the NHL while Ribeiro did it twice in his first 2 full seasons and they were drafted the same year, Legwand second overall and Ribs a second rounder.

All Legwand has over Ribeiro is speed.

but he is a second overall

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Hartnell >> Ryder
Legwand >>>>>>>>> Ribeiro
2nd > 3rd
ryder and ribs aren't physical dynamos, but hartnell and legwand aren't exactly setting the league on fire with their scoring ability . For a team in dire need of scoring we're going to trade a 30+ goal scorer and a former 65 point guy for two guys that couldn't even hit 50 points while getting top two line minutes?

does anyone think a guy with cement hands and no vision (legwand) is going to work well with kovalev and samsonov?

based on the NEW nhl.
ryder>hartnell
ribeiro=legwand (up to you on what you prefer, a guy that's a pansy but with the potential to be a PPG player or a guy with no upside but works hard but won't notch 60+ points in his career).
this trade does the habs NO good.
actually, it doesn't do the predators any good either as they need hartnell and legwand more than we do as they are important players under barry trotz's system. granted ribeiro centering hartnell would be much better than legwand centering him.

the habs are making a team that has 3 scoring lines, i don't see how acquiring legwand helps us. unless the preds want bonk for legwand?

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ryder and ribs aren't physical dynamos, but hartnell and legwand aren't exactly setting the league on fire with their scoring ability . For a team in dire need of scoring we're going to trade a 30+ goal scorer and a former 65 point guy for two guys that couldn't even hit 50 points while getting top two line minutes?

does anyone think a guy with cement hands and no vision (legwand) is going to work well with kovalev and samsonov?

based on the NEW nhl.
ryder>hartnell
ribeiro=legwand (up to you on what you prefer, a guy that's a pansy but with the potential to be a PPG player or a guy with no upside but works hard but won't notch 60+ points in his career).
this trade does the habs NO good.
actually, it doesn't do the predators any good either as they need hartnell and legwand more than we do as they are important players under barry trotz's system. granted ribeiro centering hartnell would be much better than legwand centering him.

the habs are making a team that has 3 scoring lines, i don't see how acquiring legwand helps us. unless the preds want bonk for legwand?
Ribeiro=Legwand? Thanks, I needed that laugh.

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the word from ryders agent is there about 500,000 apart.

i belive ryder is looking for 2.5 million .

2.5 Million? For what no showing up in the playoffs? Ryder will be traded I doubt Gainey will give him that much money

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Ribeiro=Legwand? Thanks, I needed that laugh.
Yeah its more like Ribeiro owns Legwand and this is bad. People Stop discreditting Ribs and overrating others. Legwand cant even put up the numbers Ribeiro produced even if he was the number one center for the Preds for years.

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Yeah its more like Ribeiro owns Legwand and this is bad. People Stop discreditting Ribs and overrating others. Legwand cant even put up the numbers Ribeiro produced even if he was the number one center for the Preds for years.
Bigger, faster. In today's NHL, a better player for sure.

Legwand's a much better player.

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Legwand is a flop.

No need to build around players like him.

If Bob finds a replacement for Ribeiro, it will be a definite upgrade. Bob doesn't want to waste his CAP money on flops.

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Bigger, faster. In today's NHL, a better player for sure.

Legwand's a much better player.
bigger,faster,more injury prone than koivu , dont produce ofensivly

a third line center who need to add more muscle like ribeiro

and ribeiro is more physical than legwand


Ribeiro >> Legwand

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