HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Winnipeg Jets
Notices

Jets - Free Agents, Trades, Rumors, Speculation - 2012-13 (Part XI)

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-24-2013, 01:13 PM
  #526
lablite47
Registered User
 
lablite47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wpg
Country: Canada
Posts: 255
vCash: 500
Horton and/or Getzlaf are definitely good players but if we are going to trace for anyone, hands down ROR is more in line with the organizations direction as Isee it. They seem to be going after 6'+ , 200 lbs frames below 23yrs of age and ROR fits that mold quite well. Not to mention that he is a blue chip prospect (if not proven) player at this point. He would be at the same age and stage of development as Kane, Little, Bogo, Postma, Redmond, Wright, etc.. and would fit in well as one of the core players to to build your team around for years to come. Add Scheifele, Trouba, Lowry to the mix as well as hopefully at least a couple of this years picks and I for one would look forward to this this group vault us to cup contenders for years to come! We can't forget about big Buff either! Burmi & Enstrom are good trade bait going forward IMO and maybe could offered for ROR in some combination?

lablite47 is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 02:28 PM
  #527
JetsHomer
Registered User
 
JetsHomer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,012
vCash: 50
Enstrom >>>> Ror.

JetsHomer is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 02:30 PM
  #528
Dirty30
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 59
vCash: 500
I find it a bit frustrating that there isn't more talk in the media with regards to the Jets being involved in trade rumours.
I'm trying not to get my hopes up that the Jets deal for ROR because I can't see them involved in a significant deal. I I really think Chevy needs to do something big ASAP for the Jets to have any hope of making the playoffs this year?


Last edited by Dirty30: 02-24-2013 at 03:02 PM.
Dirty30 is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 02:34 PM
  #529
garret9
AKA#VitoCorrelationi
 
garret9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 9,025
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying High View Post
Enstrom >>>> Ror.
Yurp!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty30 View Post
I find it a bit frustrating that there isn't more talk in the media with regards to the Jets being involved in trade rumours. I'm trying not to get my hopes up that the Jets deal for ROR because I can't see use involve in a significant deal. Chevy needs to do something big ASAP to have any hope of making the playoffs.
Huh?

garret9 is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 05:42 PM
  #530
Hansen Brother
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In TO, from Keystone
Country: Canada
Posts: 264
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty30 View Post
I find it a bit frustrating that there isn't more talk in the media with regards to the Jets being involved in trade rumours.
I'm trying not to get my hopes up that the Jets deal for ROR because I can't see them involved in a significant deal. I I really think Chevy needs to do something big ASAP for the Jets to have any hope of making the playoffs this year?
While I agree with this, please keep in mind the playoffs are not the end goal. The Stanley Cup is. No Calgary stupidity. If it takes a few more seasons so be it but I want to be like Detroit and be dominant for a long time. Take the time, do it right.

Hansen Brother is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 06:22 PM
  #531
sully1410
Registered User
 
sully1410's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Turner Valley, Alta.
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,588
vCash: 50
Woops.

sully1410 is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 06:53 PM
  #532
Zhamnov10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 672
vCash: 500
The jets really need a NHL defemceman right now I think they should try to acquire a top 4 D right now instead of making a trade for another filler.

Zhamnov10 is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 06:56 PM
  #533
JetsHomer
Registered User
 
JetsHomer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,012
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhamnov10 View Post
The jets really need a NHL defemceman right now I think they should try to acquire a top 4 D right now instead of making a trade for another filler.
Top 4 defencemen are at a premium right now. They won't come cheap

JetsHomer is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 07:21 PM
  #534
jetkarma
Registered User
 
jetkarma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Vancouver Island
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,111
vCash: 500
Clarkson would also be a fit but I see him as much less likely to leave/sign here than Horton , although Horton may also be a longer shot as well.

IMO WPG would love to add a relatively young (27 under ) at no price except salary. that would allow the build to continue and if they added a top 6 RW , we then are pretty close to a good/set top 6.

Getting ROR but having to both pay him and pay for him ( players/picks ) isn't as alluring as signing a similar FA imo.

As per some other posts , Horton would require a long term contract , can't see a two year deal appealing to him. Wpg is positioned cap wise they way they are for a reason, they want to take advantage this off season. Now it takes two to make the deal , but I believe the Jets will pay for the right player.

jetkarma is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 11:25 PM
  #535
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 2,449
vCash: 500
Rumors Troy Brouwer could be moved if the Caps continue to flounder.

His cap hit is a bit rich $3.667 mill/yr after this year - for next 3 yrs. That might be a bit rich, but would add some size and toughness to 2nd or 3rd lines. Seems to be a 20 g/40 pt guy and knows Ladd and Buff from his Chicago days.

Plays LW, but is a RH shot, so perhaps he would be a decent replacement for Wellwood or Antro? Wouldn't go after him and ROR, but if the ROR talks have cooled, he is a cheaper option than a Nathan Horton. Might be able to get him for picks, if Caps are looking to shed salary.

Edit: Chevy would know him well from the Hawks days too, and he seems to be a Chevy-type player.

Bob E is offline  
Old
02-24-2013, 11:42 PM
  #536
Jet
Moderator
Confirmed Pav Basher
 
Jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New Glasgow
Country: Scotland
Posts: 16,224
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob E View Post
Rumors Troy Brouwer could be moved if the Caps continue to flounder.

His cap hit is a bit rich $3.667 mill/yr after this year - for next 3 yrs. That might be a bit rich, but would add some size and toughness to 2nd or 3rd lines. Seems to be a 20 g/40 pt guy and knows Ladd and Buff from his Chicago days.

Plays LW, but is a RH shot, so perhaps he would be a decent replacement for Wellwood or Antro? Wouldn't go after him and ROR, but if the ROR talks have cooled, he is a cheaper option than a Nathan Horton. Might be able to get him for picks, if Caps are looking to shed salary.

Edit: Chevy would know him well from the Hawks days too, and he seems to be a Chevy-type player.
Not interested in Brouwer after what he said about Hamrlik and Neuvirth.

__________________
The Jets rollercoaster ride is now over. Please wait for it to come to a complete stop before exiting
Jet is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 12:00 AM
  #537
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 2,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brogosian View Post
Not interested in Brouwer after what he said about Hamrlik and Neuvirth.
I don't know. Lots of things were said during the lockout. Hamrlik changed his tune soon after, likely due to pressure from other players as well.

Said he couldn't trust them, i think, which was during their solidarity time to show the NHL they wouldn't crack. I'm prepared to cut him some slack, for that one.

Bob E is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 02:30 AM
  #538
sully1410
Registered User
 
sully1410's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Turner Valley, Alta.
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,588
vCash: 50
I really couldn't care less about that crap.

I really want Neuvrith though.

sully1410 is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 08:42 AM
  #539
Huffer
Registered User
 
Huffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,065
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob E View Post
Rumors Troy Brouwer could be moved if the Caps continue to flounder.

His cap hit is a bit rich $3.667 mill/yr after this year - for next 3 yrs. That might be a bit rich, but would add some size and toughness to 2nd or 3rd lines. Seems to be a 20 g/40 pt guy and knows Ladd and Buff from his Chicago days.

Plays LW, but is a RH shot, so perhaps he would be a decent replacement for Wellwood or Antro? Wouldn't go after him and ROR, but if the ROR talks have cooled, he is a cheaper option than a Nathan Horton. Might be able to get him for picks, if Caps are looking to shed salary.

Edit: Chevy would know him well from the Hawks days too, and he seems to be a Chevy-type player.

He's an upgrade on Wellwood and Antro, but I don't like him as a 2nd line RW. I would still hope the Jets can find a good 2nd line RW somehow this offseason.

So if the Jets can fit his $ onto the roster as a 3rd line player, that would be pretty good. Gives the team some more grit and scoring on our 3rd line, and we start getting closer to a top 9 setup (especially when Scheifele joins next year).

My only question would be that his contract wouldn't impact the Jets from doing the more important things (Bogo, Wheeler, Little, Burmi, Hainsey, Redmond, Postma, 2nd line RW). He's definitely overpaid, but as long as it doesn't affect the teams ability to do the things they need to do, it might be a good move. Especially if all it takes is a pick or two.

Huffer is online now  
Old
02-25-2013, 09:44 AM
  #540
Zhamnov10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 672
vCash: 500
Quick trade idea trade Buff and Little to Colorado for O'reilly+Siemens+2013 1st.I really think this would benefit us yes it would hurt to lose Buff but it would address most of our team issues for the future.Buff injuries will probably linger for the remaining of the year,and his lack of conditioning is going to really hinder him as he gets older he is a tremendous talent but is missing the drive necessary to be elite.Siemens will be a solid LH top 4 d in less than 2 years and colorados 1st gives us another shot at the High fwd talent we so badly need likely a top 5 pick.

Zhamnov10 is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 09:46 AM
  #541
almostawake
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,978
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhamnov10 View Post
Quick trade idea trade Buff and Little to Colorado for O'reilly+Siemens+2013 1st.I really think this would benefit us yes it would hurt to lose Buff but it would address most of our team issues for the future.Buff injuries will probably linger for the remaining of the year,and his lack of conditioning is going to really hinder him as he gets older he is a tremendous talent but is missing the drive necessary to be elite.Siemens will be a solid LH top 4 d in less than 2 years and colorados 1st gives us another shot at the High fwd talent we so badly need likely a top 5 pick.
Doubt Buff is all that attractive to the Avs.

almostawake is online now  
Old
02-25-2013, 09:54 AM
  #542
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 2,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huffer View Post
He's an upgrade on Wellwood and Antro, but I don't like him as a 2nd line RW. I would still hope the Jets can find a good 2nd line RW somehow this offseason.

So if the Jets can fit his $ onto the roster as a 3rd line player, that would be pretty good. Gives the team some more grit and scoring on our 3rd line, and we start getting closer to a top 9 setup (especially when Scheifele joins next year).

My only question would be that his contract wouldn't impact the Jets from doing the more important things (Bogo, Wheeler, Little, Burmi, Hainsey, Redmond, Postma, 2nd line RW). He's definitely overpaid, but as long as it doesn't affect the teams ability to do the things they need to do, it might be a good move. Especially if all it takes is a pick or two.
I guess I was wondering... if he played a top 6 role, on a line with Burmi and Kane, say, could he develop into a Scott Hartnell type player. Score 20-25 goals and play a physical game.

We currently don't have many 20+ goal scorers, who bang a bit.

Bob E is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 10:02 AM
  #543
Huffer
Registered User
 
Huffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,065
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhamnov10 View Post
Quick trade idea trade Buff and Little to Colorado for O'reilly+Siemens+2013 1st.I really think this would benefit us yes it would hurt to lose Buff but it would address most of our team issues for the future.Buff injuries will probably linger for the remaining of the year,and his lack of conditioning is going to really hinder him as he gets older he is a tremendous talent but is missing the drive necessary to be elite.Siemens will be a solid LH top 4 d in less than 2 years and colorados 1st gives us another shot at the High fwd talent we so badly need likely a top 5 pick.
I think that the Avs 1st is going to be too high this year for them to want to move it.

I can see your thought process though.

So ROR > Little (as has been decreed), so then we add Buff to the deal. Now, the Avs need to add Siemens, but the difference between Buff and Siemens is much greater than ROR and Little so the Avs need to add a little more.

Don't think they want to move that 1st though.


Last edited by Huffer: 02-25-2013 at 10:16 AM.
Huffer is online now  
Old
02-25-2013, 10:21 AM
  #544
Huffer
Registered User
 
Huffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,065
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob E View Post
I guess I was wondering... if he played a top 6 role, on a line with Burmi and Kane, say, could he develop into a Scott Hartnell type player. Score 20-25 goals and play a physical game.

We currently don't have many 20+ goal scorers, who bang a bit.
That would be nice. But he's only scored over 20 goals once on a very good Hawks team (useage might have played a part but you know what I mean).

Might be worth a shot if his contract didn't hurt us anywhere else, but I don't know if I would be hoping that he developed any more than what he already is. In a perfect world, I think you have a guy like him on your third line.

Huffer is online now  
Old
02-25-2013, 10:21 AM
  #545
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 2,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhamnov10 View Post
Quick trade idea trade Buff and Little to Colorado for O'reilly+Siemens+2013 1st.I really think this would benefit us yes it would hurt to lose Buff but it would address most of our team issues for the future.Buff injuries will probably linger for the remaining of the year,and his lack of conditioning is going to really hinder him as he gets older he is a tremendous talent but is missing the drive necessary to be elite.Siemens will be a solid LH top 4 d in less than 2 years and colorados 1st gives us another shot at the High fwd talent we so badly need likely a top 5 pick.
I like it from a Jets future perspective, though we might need to add a pick to get the Avs 1st. Don't think they move that pick, since it will most likely be high and they traded their 2012 1st rd pick.

But I like the move, for the Jets.

Bob E is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 10:40 AM
  #546
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 2,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huffer View Post
That would be nice. But he's only scored over 20 goals once on a very good Hawks team (useage might have played a part but you know what I mean).

Might be worth a shot if his contract didn't hurt us anywhere else, but I don't know if I would be hoping that he developed any more than what he already is. In a perfect world, I think you have a guy like him on your third line.
I like his size, grit and ability to play on 3rd and 2nd lines (and even the 1st, in a pinch) and put up some points is something the Jets need, imo.

In Chicago, he moved up and down the lines, depending on what JQ needed that game. Nice to have that flexibility and ability to change players and lines. Played time on the 4th line and top line with Toews, at times. Hawks had crazy depth that year.

Bob E is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 11:11 AM
  #547
Gump Hasek
Spleen Merchant
 
Gump Hasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,713
vCash: 1350
Beyek mentioned on 1290 this morning that St. Louis Blues management has been scouting the entire Jets road trip.

What is up with that?


Gump Hasek is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 11:14 AM
  #548
Guerzy
Global Moderator
 
Guerzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,253
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gump Hasek View Post
Beyek mentioned on 1290 this morning that St. Louis Blues management has been scouting the entire Jets road trip.

What is up with that?

That is interesting. I could see a game here and there, but all of the road trip, that's quite a bit.

__________________
"The ‘now’ is very good in Chicago. The ‘now’ back in the days when they were drafting first, second and third? It wasn’t very good. But the core of fans that stuck with them, if you asked them now, I betcha they’d say it was worth it.” - Kevin Cheveldayoff
Guerzy is online now  
Old
02-25-2013, 11:14 AM
  #549
wpgsilver
HFBoards Sponsor
 
wpgsilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,196
vCash: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gump Hasek View Post
Beyek mentioned on 1290 this morning that St. Louis Blues management has been scouting the entire Jets road trip.

What is up with that?

They really want Peluso back.
Steen +2nd round for Anthony. Book it.




wpgsilver is offline  
Old
02-25-2013, 11:18 AM
  #550
Gump Hasek
Spleen Merchant
 
Gump Hasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,713
vCash: 1350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zachy Goj View Post
That is interesting. I could see a game here and there, but all of the road trip, that's quite a bit.
He specifically mentioned as well that it was GM Doug Armstrong, so if the GM is that involved then by extension it means they are likely to be very seriously considering some sort of a deal.

Gump Hasek is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:03 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.