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02-25-2013, 08:13 AM
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Chicago's 3rd overall pick in 2011

It was a really good pick and I am glad Bowman picked Andrew Shaw for the first round (third overall) because as it stands now he is really the third best player in that draft, rarely does the position of the draft and performance work out that perfectly...


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You have to scroll down to see Andrew Shaw though for some weird reason...


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Danault, Clendening, McNeill, Shaw, and Saad is one hell of a draft. My lord.

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Toews was drafted first round third overall. Shaw was somewhere in the fifth.

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Hawks draft brain trust did well is 2011. You're looking to get 3 solid NHL players from any given draft year. Shaw was selected in the fifth round #139 overall.

That said, Im not impressed with their draft record, especially during Tallons tenure and their second round record overall has been a joke.

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Hawks draft brain trust did well is 2011. You're looking to get 3 solid NHL players from any given draft year. Shaw was selected in the fifth round #139 overall.

That said, Im not impressed with their draft record, especially during Tallons tenure and their second round record overall has been a joke.
Tallon had a terrible draft record but before him, and after him, the Hawks have drafted really well.

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Danault, Clendening, McNeill, Shaw, and Saad is one hell of a draft. My lord.
Until the first three do something at the NHL level, it's a solid draft with huge upside.

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The 2011 draft does have the potential to be amazing (though I still think McNeill will be a bust, but who cares with all the others...). And you have to be fair - the 2010 draft has the potential of being way worse than anything Tallon ever did.

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The 2011 draft does have the potential to be amazing (though I still think McNeill will be a bust, but who cares with all the others...). And you have to be fair - the 2010 draft has the potential of being way worse than anything Tallon ever did.
The 2011 draft has redeemed Bowman for a lot of people on this board. Consistently adding key pieces is the difference between flash-in-a-pan success and a dynasty or at least consistent success. Let's hope for the Red Wings success (until this season) in constantly adding quality depth, and not ending up with old overpaid vets that can't skate anymore.

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The 2011 draft does have the potential to be amazing (though I still think McNeill will be a bust, but who cares with all the others...). And you have to be fair - the 2010 draft has the potential of being way worse than anything Tallon ever did.
Check out the 2008 draft. Now thats a bad draft.

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Check out the 2008 draft. Now thats a bad draft.
How about 2004. Drafting Cam Barker after Ovie and Malkin go off the board. Just realized Ladd and Olesz were in that draft too. Wow thats weird.

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How about 2004. Drafting Cam Barker after Ovie and Malkin go off the board. Just realized Ladd and Olesz were in that draft too. Wow thats weird.
I'm not going to flame Tallon too bad over that one. Barker was considered the best defenseman in that draft at the time if I remember correctly and that was an organizational need at the time. He looked like a great pick on paper; big offensive numbers in his junior career, size, physical, tough...looked logical at the time.

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It was a really good pick and I am glad Bowman picked Andrew Shaw for the first round (third overall) because as it stands now he is really the third best player in that draft, rarely does the position of the draft and performance work out that perfectly...


Check it out

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2011e.html

You have to scroll down to see Andrew Shaw though for some weird reason...

5th rounder wtf man! You have to scroll down because he was taken in the 5th round not the 3rd

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I think there's some whooshing in this topic

Its pretty cool to see the only two non-first rounders with NHL stats on our team

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How about 2004. Drafting Cam Barker after Ovie and Malkin go off the board. Just realized Ladd and Olesz were in that draft too. Wow thats weird.
Everyone in the world had Barker at #3. We flipped him for Leddy, turned out pretty good.

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I'm so confused....

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5th rounder wtf man! You have to scroll down because he was taken in the 5th round not the 3rd
Its a joke, thought it was obvious but I guess everyone is struggling to figure it out lol

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God, Cam Barker was terrible.

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I'm not going to flame Tallon too bad over that one. Barker was considered the best defenseman in that draft at the time if I remember correctly and that was an organizational need at the time. He looked like a great pick on paper; big offensive numbers in his junior career, size, physical, tough...looked logical at the time.
Barker was widely regarded as the clear cut no brainer #3 pick.

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Barker was widely regarded as the clear cut no brainer #3 pick.
Yeah and Beach was considered a steal at #11 - as it was thought he could have been a top 5 pick. But you know how it goes...when a guy busts out, everyone suddenly knew this long before the pick was wasted

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God, Cam Barker was terrible.
Nice understatement, Murray.


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Yeah and Beach was considered a steal at #11 - as it was thought he could have been a top 5 pick. But you know how it goes...when a guy busts out, everyone suddenly knew this long before the pick was wasted
Right on. It's hindsight.

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The 2011 draft does have the potential to be amazing (though I still think McNeill will be a bust, but who cares with all the others...). And you have to be fair - the 2010 draft has the potential of being way worse than anything Tallon ever did.
As a Raiders and Hawks fan, and someone who's probably seen McNeill upwards of forty times, I promise you he won't be. Will he be a top six forward in the NHL? I doubt it, but I do think he'll be one of the best third liners in the league.

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Its a joke, thought it was obvious but I guess everyone is struggling to figure it out lol
I understand it's a joke, but I still don't get it. There are 3 other players with more points, and at least 15 other players I would rather have.

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I understand it's a joke, but I still don't get it. There are 3 other players with more points, and at least 15 other players I would rather have.
I did say as it stands now he is the third best player points wise, and Couturier has played 40 more games and has only 4 points more. You are looking too hard into this lol.

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I credit Pulford more with 2004 draft then Tallon considering Pulford was GM and Tallon didn't take over as GM until the 2004-05 lockout

Pulford was still very much in charge and the power behind Wirtz so I have no doubt he had alot of say in that draft in which he was GM

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