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02-24-2013, 11:59 PM
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Yankee and Dodger stadiums (and maybe more) to host NHL outdoor games?

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...es-for-2013-14

Edmonton or Vancouver could be the host of the next Heritage Classic.

Is four outdoor games/season too much?


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outdoor game in LA in 90 degree weather?

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It would just be WRONG to stage an OC in Vancouver LS. Forget it. Wont happen.

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The Ottawa stadium should be ready by 2015. I think it would be interesting to have a Sens-Canucks Heritage classic. It would be the 100th anniversary of the 1915 SC final between the original Sens and the Vancouver Millionaires.

Just throwing it out there.

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outdoor game in LA in 90 degree weather?
That's the high during the summer. But in winter, it can be downright "cold" for California.

San Jose (or San Francisco) usually have highs in 50s or 60s in January/February. The worse concern is the real possibility of rain.

Don't travel much to SoCal in winter so haven't studied temps there, but I'd guess 60s-70s would be the highs in January/February.

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That's the high during the summer. But in winter, it can be downright "cold" for California.

San Jose (or San Francisco) usually have highs in 50s or 60s in January/February. The worse concern is the real possibility of rain.

Don't travel much to SoCal in winter so haven't studied temps there, but I'd guess 60s-70s would be the highs in January/February.
That's right. The lows out here during the winters are around mid-40s to high 50s. We do get a few cold snaps every winter where temps drop 10 to 15 degrees below normal for some areas.

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4 games? Man, way to kill a somewhat decent novelty. Two should be the max, and if a Canadian team is in the WC why even bother having a 2nd outdoor game, let alone 4?

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..let alone 4?
Because Johnny Colllins "can"? He's totally out of control living in NYC. Your in what, the Bronx? Why dont you stop him? The whole scene, out of control.

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Edmonton or Vancouver could be the host of the next Heritage Classic.

Is four outdoor games/season too much?
Vancouver could never host the Heritage Classic.

A) There's no venue
B) Weather is way too risky

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Outdoor games should be about the fans in the stadium. I don't know why someone would watch a game on TV just because it is outdoors.

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Vancouver could never host the Heritage Classic.

A) There's no venue
B) Weather is way too risky
Ya? Well watch them insist. BC Place. Absolutely pathetic... now if you want "real", how about Lake Louise in February? Frozen drink. That would work. The Cathedrals of the Mountains surrounding the game. Calgary vs Vancouver.

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Minnesota/WInnipeg in either of the 3 new football stadiums. Winnipeg and Minny fans would travel well I think. (Well I think Winnipeg would, not too sure if Minnesotans would like coming up to Winnipeg?)

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Outdoor games should be about the fans in the stadium. I don't know why someone would watch a game on TV just because it is outdoors.
What? it's 100% novelty gimmick for fans there. Watching a game in a football/baseball stadium is ridiculous you can't see anything. Although as long as huge crowds are willing to pack a football stadium at premium prices the NHL won't scoff at the gate windfall either. The event is designed for TV though so even if they didn't have a huge gate it would still be all about TV optics.

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What? it's 100% novelty gimmick for fans there. Watching a game in a football/baseball stadium is ridiculous you can't see anything. Although as long as huge crowds are willing to pack a football stadium at premium prices the NHL won't scoff at the gate windfall either. The event is designed for TV though so even if they didn't have a huge gate it would still be all about TV optics.
The funny thing is the game's TV quality is worse. The NHL arenas have cameras in optimized conditions already (lighting is also a factor), and they've had years to perfect where to put the cameras. This isn't the case for an outdoor game where everything's set up for 1 game.

And yeah, the appeal of the WC is that it's unique. If there's 4 of them now it's just a dumb gimmick.

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The minute you host more than one Winter Classic in a season is the moment when people start to realise that the actual on ice product at an outdoor game is garbage and that this is a novelty. And the idea that Vancouver should host a game at BC place is ridiculous. BC place is not even an outdoor arena.

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The funny thing is the game's TV quality is worse. The NHL arenas have cameras in optimized conditions already (lighting is also a factor), and they've had years to perfect where to put the cameras. This isn't the case for an outdoor game where everything's set up for 1 game.

And yeah, the appeal of the WC is that it's unique. If there's 4 of them now it's just a dumb gimmick.
That may be true, but blimp shots above fenway park >>>>> game cameras.

Actually it wouldnt be bad if the NHL abuses the stadium phase to death then they could move to more impressive venues like on someone mentioned lake louise or aspen.

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The minute you host more than one Winter Classic in a season is the moment when people start to realise that the actual on ice product at an outdoor game is garbage and that this is a novelty. And the idea that Vancouver should host a game at BC place is ridiculous. BC place is not even an outdoor arena.
BC Place would be amazing for atmosphere reasons though, keeps the chanting and fans in the arena whereas in outdoors arenas it can get lost.

Personally, I think One Heritage Classic (Canadian v Canadian or US - Hosted by Canadian team), a Winter classic (US v Canadian or US - Hosted by American team) and one other marquee game.

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Because Johnny Colllins "can"? He's totally out of control living in NYC. Your in what, the Bronx? Why dont you stop him? The whole scene, out of control.
Hey, let's not be too harsh. These are popular events, and since the lockout had nothing to do with fans, who have since been rewarded with price increases and dubious realignment schemes, it's not a bad thing to do.

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An outdoor game at Yankee Stadium would be great. Don't think more than 2 games a season would work though.

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BC Place would be amazing for atmosphere reasons though, keeps the chanting and fans in the arena whereas in outdoors arenas it can get lost.

Personally, I think One Heritage Classic (Canadian v Canadian or US - Hosted by Canadian team), a Winter classic (US v Canadian or US - Hosted by American team) and one other marquee game.
Canucks games are pretty quiet lately. I doubt you would hear chants or anything like that at BC Place.

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Yankee Stadium won't happen as long as they still have the Pinstripe Bowl. I'm sure that it'll happen eventually, though.

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An outdoor game at Yankee Stadium would be great. Don't think more than 2 games a season would work though.
How's that going to work with the Pinstripe Bowl ? ... derp

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It wont work for the Winter Classic, however it could work at another time. The article never really indicated they'd all by New Year's Day games. And actually late January is probably a little better weather wise in the Northeast if they want lower temps.

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That's the high during the summer. But in winter, it can be downright "cold" for California.

San Jose (or San Francisco) usually have highs in 50s or 60s in January/February. The worse concern is the real possibility of rain.

Don't travel much to SoCal in winter so haven't studied temps there, but I'd guess 60s-70s would be the highs in January/February.
Chavez Ravine has a average of 50-60 in January. So it can do it. And the Kings have been setting up an outdoor rink downtown across from Staples center for more than a few years. And there has been one in Pershing Square for I think about 15 years during the winter.

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