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02-24-2013, 03:12 PM
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It's really surprising to me how much better he's looked in the NHL then Boro did when he was here. I guess it's safe to say that Gryba has passed Boro on the depth chart.

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02-24-2013, 03:22 PM
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I like what Phillips brings to the team in regards to leadership and mentorship, but I won't be surprised to see this guy pull regular 7th defenceman duty next year. I think next year will be his last. I would like to see him retire a career senator and unless someone throws a bit of cash at him next offseason to be a 6th d-man, I think it will happen.

He's had a few good games this season, but his ability is deteriorating. Should the team make the playoffs I hope he can bring it one last time because I think it's likely this is his last go around playing regular minutes.

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02-24-2013, 03:42 PM
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all these injuries have been great in the long run IMO. gryba, wiercioch and benoit getting all this NHL experience is great and will soften the relative blow when phillips and gonchar leave.

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02-25-2013, 10:18 PM
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Gryba was phenomenal yet again. What surprised me the most about his game so far is his terrific breakout pass. He feathers it across the ice tape-to-tape. He does have the occasional bobbles but man is he composed. Looks like a seasoned veteran and forms a spectacular shutdown pairing with Methot!

Gryba is playing like a guy who is a bonafide top 4. 23 minutes of ice-time! He also adds that physical dimension which we need. I don't think we need to go out looking for a shutdown defender anymore.

Might as well rename this to "Gryba Appreciation Thread."

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02-25-2013, 10:27 PM
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Gryba was phenomenal yet again. What surprised me the most about his game so far is his terrific breakout pass. He feathers it across the ice tape-to-tape. He does have the occasional bobbles but man is he composed. Looks like a seasoned veteran and forms a spectacular shutdown pairing with Methot!

Gryba is playing like a guy who is a bonafide top 4. 23 minutes of ice-time! He also adds that physical dimension which we need. I don't think we need to go out looking for a shutdown defender anymore.

Might as well rename this to "Gryba Appreciation Thread."
Yep, not sure why i have read that he had a down game. Just so steady and his skill in the transition game is a complete surprise.

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02-25-2013, 10:32 PM
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Did Grybs and Cowen get any playing time together in Bingo before Cowen went down? I like the look of

Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Gryba

Thats a legit shutdown pairing imo.

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02-25-2013, 10:33 PM
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He wasn't great against Montreal, IMO

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02-25-2013, 10:36 PM
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He wasn't great against Montreal, IMO
yeah, especially the first period. he did pick it up a bit for the rest of the game, but not as good as his first couple games.

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02-25-2013, 10:40 PM
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Did Grybs and Cowen get any playing time together in Bingo before Cowen went down? I like the look of

Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Gryba

Thats a legit shutdown pairing imo.
I'd be tempted with Cowen - Karlsson, Methot - Gryba.

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02-25-2013, 11:12 PM
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Gryba was phenomenal yet again. What surprised me the most about his game so far is his terrific breakout pass. He feathers it across the ice tape-to-tape. He does have the occasional bobbles but man is he composed. Looks like a seasoned veteran and forms a spectacular shutdown pairing with Methot!

Gryba is playing like a guy who is a bonafide top 4. 23 minutes of ice-time! He also adds that physical dimension which we need. I don't think we need to go out looking for a shutdown defender anymore.

Might as well rename this to "Gryba Appreciation Thread."
whoa dude, seriously? He was awful tonight. His breakout pass you speak of was truly awful. Lost foot races, didn't manage the puck well at all. Worst defenseman on the ice for sure.

He was good against Toronto, definitely not against Montreal. He struggles against speedy teams it seems.

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02-25-2013, 11:18 PM
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The whole team kind of sucked tonight, the Habs were all over everybody (except Condra)

It's a concern but I don't think he's going to be sent down just because of one game

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02-25-2013, 11:19 PM
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The whole team kind of sucked tonight, the Habs were all over everybody (except Condra)

It's a concern but I don't think he's going to be sent down just because of one game
sure, agreed, but RKL said he was ''phenomenal'' which is way way way way way way... way way way off

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02-25-2013, 11:21 PM
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Nobody was "phenomenal" tonight outside of Bishop

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02-25-2013, 11:23 PM
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Nobody was "phenomenal" tonight outside of Bishop
Gryba was probably the worst player out there. Him and Daug at even strength

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02-25-2013, 11:27 PM
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I agree that his foot speed will be a problem at the NHL level. His conditioning is fine, his hitting is good, his stick work is good, and his passing and shot are both much better than expected.

Having said that I don't see him being able to be a regular NHLer without work on his positional game. His foot speed/positioning will likely keep him from ever being a true top-4 guy, but guys like Andy Sutton have made careers out of less.

He's also being overexposed right now. I'd like to see him playing no more than 16-18 minutes ideally, but with the injuries, I know that's not practical. Playing 4 less minutes a night is probably 1-2 less mistakes and would really help.

The Bingo pairing of Wier/Gryba would be an incredible 5-6 pairing at the NHL level in 1-2 years and I could definitely see them playing 17-19 solid minutes a night and maybe even more (If that makes them a "top-4" pairing, so be it). They mask one another's flaws well. Wier has a limp shot and poor physicality but NHL quality skating, passing, position and vision. Gryba meanwhile has good fundamentals, physicality/hitting, an NHL quality shot, and a high compete level.

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02-25-2013, 11:31 PM
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whoa dude, seriously? He was awful tonight. His breakout pass you speak of was truly awful. Lost foot races, didn't manage the puck well at all. Worst defenseman on the ice for sure.

He was good against Toronto, definitely not against Montreal. He struggles against speedy teams it seems.
LOL, to each their own opinion but I thought Gryba was very, very solid. Worse defense man on the ice? Paul MacLean was stupid to entrust him with 23 minutes, how could he not see it.

When I say phenomenal, I mean for the expected role he is supposed to play and the role he does play.

You guys are talking like he is being blown by every game. He has been positionally sound. Will he keep this up? Don't know bout you youtes but I'm loving what I'm seeing.

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02-25-2013, 11:35 PM
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As stated above he had a very tough first period but got better as the game went on... Probably his worst game since he has been up but I didnt have a problem with it. He is 5-6 games into his NHL carrer and in his worst game he played 22-23 mins. A few brainfarts and poor plays but none ended up in our net and the coaches threw him back out there. Best way to learn.

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02-25-2013, 11:36 PM
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LOL, to each their own opinion but I thought Gryba was very, very solid. Worse defense man on the ice? Paul MacLean was stupid to entrust him with 23 minutes, how could he not see it.

When I say phenomenal, I mean for the expected role he is supposed to play and the role he does play.

You guys are talking like he is being blown by every game. He has been positionally sound. Will he keep this up? Don't know bout you youtes but I'm loving what I'm seeing.
This was his first bad game. He was really overwhelmed. His positioning does need work, sometimes gets caught too high in the neutral zone or even too much to the left.

He could not make a pass tonight. I ed so many times

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02-25-2013, 11:38 PM
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He made minor mistakes but nothing costly, not unknown for any defender... let alone one who is 9th in our depth charts and playing as he is.

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02-26-2013, 05:54 PM
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Once again we have another player that I used to pump up only to have so many here tell me he would never amount to anything other than a career AHLer or 7th d at best. Size matters but only when it is accompanied with skill.

I think both Wiercioch & Gryba will be playing for Ottawa next season & possibly paired together as a third pairing since Maclean likes to pair an offensive & defensive defenceman together. Gryba is also a right shot which is something Ottawa lacks. Unless Murray picks up a top 4 defenceman Ceci could have a good shot at making the team as well next season. He is also a right shot & could step into Gonchar's spot.

Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - ??? (Ceci) - Murray could sign a UFA or make a trade for a right shot top 4 defenceman
Wiercioch - Gryba
Phillips - Boroweicki - either of these two could find themselves playing with Cowen until Ceci is NHL ready which IMO is quite likely seeing how Phillips has one more yr left on his contract.


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02-26-2013, 06:16 PM
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He wasn't great against Montreal, IMO
Nobody was great in the Montreal game IMO, the Canadiens just played better all over the ice.

Gryba has been very good for Ottawa and one off night doesn't suddenly change that.


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02-26-2013, 06:20 PM
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I've loved the Methot-Gryba combination. It is the shut-down line that we have needed for awhile now. Our D-Core next year may look like:

Karlsson-?
Cowen-Phillips
Methot-Gryba
Wiercoich

I wonder if Murray would consider adding a high caliber D to be Karlsson's partner to create a steallar D-Core next year. Why not keep Methot with Gryba?

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Once again we have another player that I used to pump up only to have so many here tell me he would never amount to anything other than a career AHLer or 7th d at best. Size matters but only when it is accompanied with skill.

I think both Wiercioch & Gryba will be playing for Ottawa next season & possibly paired together as a third pairing since Maclean likes to pair an offensive & defensive defenceman together. Gryba is also a right shot which is something Ottawa lacks. Unless Murray picks up a top 4 defenceman Ceci could have a good shot at making the team as well next season. He is also a right shot & could step into Gonchar's spot.
Seemed many fans felt if Tim Murray liked Boro any other Bingo defenceman was automatically discounted.

I agree both will start next season in Ottawa barring a trade.

I don't see Ceci quite the same way as you do, I think he will need a fair amount of time to adjust to the pro game and get his defensive game in order.

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I've loved the Methot-Gryba combination. It is the shut-down line that we have needed for awhile now. Our D-Core next year may look like:

Karlsson-?
Cowen-Phillips
Methot-Gryba
Wiercoich

I wonder if Murray would consider adding a high caliber D to be Karlsson's partner to create a steallar D-Core next year. Why not keep Methot with Gryba?
I would suggest not, it just isn't the biggest need.

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If you guys think Methot-Gryba is good, what till you see Methot with Cowen. Could be one of the best shutdown tandems in the league, with that being said, Cowen/Methot will be Karlsson's D partner.

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