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02-25-2013, 05:18 PM
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I may start a Lance Zawadzki fan club

Seriously though every spring there is a guy I want to see make the club even though he doesn't really have a shot and I think he's that guy this year, last year it was Jonathan Diaz who now plays for the Red Sux.
There's always that ST killer than ends up with a call up. Last year was Yan Gomes.

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Wow he's leaving 42 million on the table? Thats insane. Great for the Angles though...

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Espn on Jose:

"I feel fine," he says, five and a half months after surgery to repair the tendon sheath in that wrist.

"It’s a pretty simple procedure," he goes on. "As long as you’re a good healer, you shouldn't have any trouble coming back from it. People have that surgery all the time and come back. … I did my research, and it's true. It’s a pretty common surgery for baseball players. I mean, it's not as common as Tommy John (surgery), or a labrum for the shoulder. But people have had that surgery and been successful at a pretty good rate."

He then ticks off a list of players who have had it: Sam Fuld for one (with the same surgeon, Dr. Thomas Graham). Gary Sheffield for another. And Mark DeRosa, who just happens to be hanging out in this same locker room, about 50 feet away.

But it’s funny he should mention that name, because DeRosa’s 2009 surgery shouldn’t be filling Bautista, or anyone else, with a sense of overflowing optimism. And why is that? Because “it didn’t work,” DeRosa says now.

"I’m a tough guy to talk to," he says, "because I personally feel -- and not to make any excuses -- that it totally handicapped my entire career since I've done it. I’ve seen my power cut in half."

Now obviously, DeRosa is far from a perfect comparison to Jose Bautista. One guy is a super-utility man who has had two 20-homer seasons in 15 years in the big leagues. The other was coming off back-to-back years of 54 and 43 home runs when his tendon sheath unraveled on him last July.

But DeRosa was in the midst of the best two-season offensive stretch of his career -- 21 homers in 2008, 23 in 2009 -- when he hurt his wrist. He's hit exactly one home run in three seasons since. So his advice to Jose Bautista this spring is this:

Don't overdo it. "




I find it pretty worrisome that DeRosa went from hitting 57hr over 2.5 seasons to losing all his pop at the age of 35.

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02-25-2013, 06:03 PM
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Wow he's leaving 42 million on the table? Thats insane. Great for the Angles though...
No no no he has 2 years left on his contract at $21 million salary. He intends to retire after his contract expires. So basically, the opposite for the Angels.

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02-25-2013, 07:07 PM
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Vernon Wells says he's going to retire after the 2014 season (2 years, 42m left on contract)

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/0...fter-2014.html

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How do you walk away from 42 million to ride the bench for two years? Must be nice to have made so much money playing a sport that that's an option.

Just read Eyedea's post so I guess he won't be walking away from that money and I can absolutely understand why. I don't however think retirement is completely his idea. Unless he all of a sudden wants to start playing for pretty close to a base salary.

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02-25-2013, 07:09 PM
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Again, maybe I worded it wrong, but there's 2 years at 21 million annually left on his contract. He intends to retire after it expires which is the end of the 2014 season.

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funniest thing i read today about farrell, from a sox blogger on espn:

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* While John Farrell may dismiss facing his former team as “just another game,” fans have a different opinion. During batting practice and team introductions, a large contingent of the Toronto faithful in the crowd of 4,824 booed vociferously. Then, following the game, while Farrell was conducting his media session with reporters just outside the visitors' clubhouse, a fan who was exiting the stadium shouted: “You suck Farrell.”

Farrell didn’t initially acknowledge the man, but toward the end of the interview, the Red Sox skipper jokingly said, “OK, you’ll have to excuse me. I have to go meet up with my friend.”
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How do you walk away from 42 million to ride the bench for two years? Must be nice to have made so much money playing a sport that that's an option.

Just read Eyedea's post so I guess he won't be walking away from that money and I can absolutely understand why. I don't however think retirement is completely his idea. Unless he all of a sudden wants to start playing for pretty close to a base salary.
He might retire after his contract is up, which is after the 2014 season. He'll be like 35 by then and right now, if he was on the open market, he would probably be getting a minor league or Jason Bay type deal at best. Maybe if he turns it around, he'll change his mind but I can see why he would want to retire after that contract is up. He is a shade of his former self who won't see much playing time or money so I guess why stick around? Some guys need the money but he's earned plenty. I think he said he wants to own a minor league team or something with his friend Tori Hunter.

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Drabek was put on 60-day DL today to make room for Lars Anderson.

No surprise there.

also, who's the new girl behind the desk for Sportsnet? She's kinda bad at this. Frames the Jays ST report as if it's going to ask how the Jays are being perceived in the US in terms of attention level. That never comes up in the interview between Barry Davis and Peter Gammons.

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Farrell is sick of the media attention that he`s getting with playing the Jays today. What the **** did he think would happen???

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If anyone is actually taking spring training seriously, get real. It's a time to loosen up the arms, throw pitches out of order to get your arm back, and get re-acclimated with the speed of the game. Pitchers aren't going hard at all, most are just throwing their secondary stuff to get it warmed up for the season. Guys are going to get lit up over the next couple weeks so get used to it.

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02-25-2013, 09:44 PM
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Farrell is sick of the media attention that he`s getting with playing the Jays today. What the **** did he think would happen???
On top of that, Boston had a split squad and he chose to be with the team that went to Dunedin. This Farrell guy is a total ass. He is going to regret asking to go to Boston very very soon.

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02-25-2013, 09:45 PM
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JPA had trouble with the knuckler

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One pass ball in two innings? In his first time catching a knuckleball in his life?

Honestly it wasn't that bad. JP won't catch Dickey much at all this year... probably less than 5 starts.

He just needs to be serviceable to the point that come serious baseball time (aka the p-word) Gibby can be confident rolling him out there and maximizing our offence.

Of course this all assumes JP brings up pretty much every category associated with his bat.

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Apparently the passed ball was a semi-wild pitch too

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One pass ball in two innings? In his first time catching a knuckleball in his life?

Honestly it wasn't that bad. JP won't catch Dickey much at all this year... probably less than 5 starts.

He just needs to be serviceable to the point that come serious baseball time (aka the p-word) Gibby can be confident rolling him out there and maximizing our offence.

Of course this all assumes JP brings up pretty much every category associated with his bat.
Platooning?
Pitch count?
Pinch running?
PECOTA?
Luke Prokopec?
Melky Cabrera's secret go-go juice?

Seriously I'm confused here. As a Blue Jays fan for the past 20 years, I'm not sure I know any other baseball words that start with "p".



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Apparently the passed ball was a semi-wild pitch too
Yeah it was ruled a wild pitch iirc....

Was thrown pretty much in the other batters box... not much even Doug Mirabelli could do about it

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Platooning?
Pitch count?
Pinch running?
PECOTA?
Luke Prokopec?
Melky Cabrera's secret go-go juice?

Seriously I'm confused here. As a Blue Jays fan for the past 20 years, I'm not sure I know any other baseball words that start with "p".

LOL.

It was mainly a blanket statement.

Phelps, Phillips, Painter or Purcey. Pick your Poison

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Espn on Jose:

"I feel fine," he says, five and a half months after surgery to repair the tendon sheath in that wrist.

"It’s a pretty simple procedure," he goes on. "As long as you’re a good healer, you shouldn't have any trouble coming back from it. People have that surgery all the time and come back. … I did my research, and it's true. It’s a pretty common surgery for baseball players. I mean, it's not as common as Tommy John (surgery), or a labrum for the shoulder. But people have had that surgery and been successful at a pretty good rate."

He then ticks off a list of players who have had it: Sam Fuld for one (with the same surgeon, Dr. Thomas Graham). Gary Sheffield for another. And Mark DeRosa, who just happens to be hanging out in this same locker room, about 50 feet away.

But it’s funny he should mention that name, because DeRosa’s 2009 surgery shouldn’t be filling Bautista, or anyone else, with a sense of overflowing optimism. And why is that? Because “it didn’t work,” DeRosa says now.

"I’m a tough guy to talk to," he says, "because I personally feel -- and not to make any excuses -- that it totally handicapped my entire career since I've done it. I’ve seen my power cut in half."

Now obviously, DeRosa is far from a perfect comparison to Jose Bautista. One guy is a super-utility man who has had two 20-homer seasons in 15 years in the big leagues. The other was coming off back-to-back years of 54 and 43 home runs when his tendon sheath unraveled on him last July.

But DeRosa was in the midst of the best two-season offensive stretch of his career -- 21 homers in 2008, 23 in 2009 -- when he hurt his wrist. He's hit exactly one home run in three seasons since. So his advice to Jose Bautista this spring is this:

Don't overdo it. "




I find it pretty worrisome that DeRosa went from hitting 57hr over 2.5 seasons to losing all his pop at the age of 35.

Gary didn't seem too phased by it. And he's a lot better of a comparion to Jose than DeRosa is.


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Jeffrey Loria says the Marlins fire sale was "necessary"

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ESPN's doing a tour of each team at Spring Training and today was the Blue Jays.

In theory. In reality they talked about Dickey getting hit around a bit in his start, then used like 3 or 4 minutes to discuss what the loss of Curtis Granderson means to the Yankees. And how Derek Jeter is the 2nd coming of Jesus and they're waiting on baited breath for the moment he shows them that he can walk on water.

I'm surprised they also didn't find a way to work Tim Tebow in there, since clearly "discuss the Blue Jays" was code for "nobody gives a **** about some Canadian team, let's talk about stuff we want to."

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ESPN's doing a tour of each team at Spring Training and today was the Blue Jays.

In theory. In reality they talked about Dickey getting hit around a bit in his start, then used like 3 or 4 minutes to discuss what the loss of Curtis Granderson means to the Yankees. And how Derek Jeter is the 2nd coming of Jesus and they're waiting on baited breath for the moment he shows them that he can walk on water.

I'm surprised they also didn't find a way to work Tim Tebow in there, since clearly "discuss the Blue Jays" was code for "nobody gives a **** about some Canadian team, let's talk about stuff we want to."
what do you expect though? We simply are different. We are. We are in a different country... They should 100 percent be being attention to all the american teams first. Canadians don't have as much access to ESPN as americans do as it is nationally televised their so they should 100 percent focus on those teams first. The first half of TSN shows all canadian content. First Leaf highlights, followed by all NHL Canadian teams, followed by Raptors etc. Only then in the 2nd half of the show does TSN show US teams only because that's all that is left to show. If there were 29 canadian teams and 1 American team it would be the same... I'm actually surprised how much Jays info there is on ESPN. I would say there is quite a bit of attention on the Jays though considering all they have done.

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They should talk about the Jays during their "Jays segment" not because they're from Canada, but because they're favourites to win it all this season.

However, there has been a lot of coverage of the Jays moves over the past few months, and none of those impact moves are recent, whereas Granderson's injury (at the hands of JA Happ) is a recent development directly affecting the most popular the in the league, in their largest media market. Not surprised they managed to make it about them.

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Apparently the passed ball was a semi-wild pitch too
So much so that it wasn't a passed ball. http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=330225114

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ESPN's doing a tour of each team at Spring Training and today was the Blue Jays.

In theory. In reality they talked about Dickey getting hit around a bit in his start, then used like 3 or 4 minutes to discuss what the loss of Curtis Granderson means to the Yankees. And how Derek Jeter is the 2nd coming of Jesus and they're waiting on baited breath for the moment he shows them that he can walk on water.

I'm surprised they also didn't find a way to work Tim Tebow in there, since clearly "discuss the Blue Jays" was code for "nobody gives a **** about some Canadian team, let's talk about stuff we want to."
They do everything they can to say that the Jays are one of the best, if not the best team in the AL

It's ridiculous.

And they know nothing about the team.

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They should talk about the Jays during their "Jays segment" not because they're from Canada, but because they're favourites to win it all this season.

However, there has been a lot of coverage of the Jays moves over the past few months, and none of those impact moves are recent, whereas Granderson's injury (at the hands of JA Happ) is a recent development directly affecting the most popular the in the league, in their largest media market. Not surprised they managed to make it about them.
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