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02-25-2013, 11:19 PM
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If Bourque produces at a 50 point pace(currently 28/48 or 48/82 games)...25-30 points this year...Cammalleri would need to be at 1 PPGM or more(45-50 points) to match his value as Bourque has been solid defensively and brings size and skill to the Plekanec line. Plus, that's without mentionning his 45% lower cap hit at the other assets(Holland and 2nd rounder) we got in the deal.
When all of the above can play like he has in the playoffs then I'll believe it was a good trade. Some people dislike Cam for whatever reason and I don't care...Habs fans are the most fickle fanbase in sports. Bourque was hated, now he's a superstar. Cam was a king, then turned into a bum a year later. Same thing is happening with Cole. People will sour on Bourque again...and question the "pieces" we got in the deal.

Happy that Cam is playing some good hockey.

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Those stats are Nashville, and I agree that Rinne is probably the best goalie in the game, the point being that the team could be a contender with Radulov, and this is coming from a Radulov hater.

The Oilers are another story, I can't believe a team could be bad for that long and only have decent defensive prospects in Schultz and Klefbom out of it.
Devan Dubnyk is the Jose Theodore of Edmonton.

If they make the playoffs, he is top ten for the Hart imo.

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Are the Kings waking up?

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02-26-2013, 01:40 AM
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Better than Gauthier.
Who is leading the East? Try harder, you might convince someone someday Cammy has value.

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Are the Kings waking up?
They were never asleep, just unlucky imo.

They are the legitimate contender to repeat.

If the western conference final is Chicago vs LA I am watching every game.

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02-26-2013, 08:27 AM
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They were never asleep, just unlucky imo.

They are the legitimate contender to repeat.

If the western conference final is Chicago vs LA I am watching every game.
I would still prefer a Hawks and Canucks WCF. Those games just have it all

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I know he is not the player he was but Gagne for a 4th is a good deal for the Flyers!

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I know he is not the player he was but Gagne for a 4th is a good deal for the Flyers!
great deal for them...

they had a big need at winger, their obviously very familiar with Gagne (and likewise), and a 4th even in a "deep" draft has very little chance of becoming an everyday player.

I wonder if MB kicked the tires on him, and if not, I wonder why?

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Looks like I was beaten to it, but...

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=64095

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The Flyers have acquired LW Simon Gagne from Los Angeles for a conditional 4th round draft pick, previously acquired from Phoenix.

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02-26-2013, 03:20 PM
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When all of the above can play like he has in the playoffs then I'll believe it was a good trade. Some people dislike Cam for whatever reason and I don't care...Habs fans are the most fickle fanbase in sports. Bourque was hated, now he's a superstar. Cam was a king, then turned into a bum a year later. Same thing is happening with Cole. People will sour on Bourque again...and question the "pieces" we got in the deal.

Happy that Cam is playing some good hockey.
It's very easy to see why Cammy was disliked. He pouted and acted like a baby after Gio was named captain. It's great that he had a monster playoff for us, but what he did the 2 years after also matter. Hard to keep a guy around with a bad attitude and poor production.

I do agree that fans overreact. Given his production, attitude and cap hit, moving Cammy was a no brainer and I'd venture to guess that no other team's offer was that close, he had history in Calgary and they were desperate.

They will miss the playoffs again this year so his past playoffs mean nothing.

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02-26-2013, 03:24 PM
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great deal for them...

they had a big need at winger, their obviously very familiar with Gagne (and likewise), and a 4th even in a "deep" draft has very little chance of becoming an everyday player.

I wonder if MB kicked the tires on him, and if not, I wonder why?
1-we are pretty solid on LW with Pacioretty Bourque Galchenyuk/Eller and Moen

2-would have cost a 3rd rounder to "outbid" Phillie unless LA thinks they will have a huge turnaround.

3-no reason to "rock the boat" with the team 6-0-2 the last 8 games.

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02-26-2013, 03:36 PM
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Third-round pick if Flyers make the playoffs. Fourth if they do not.

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02-26-2013, 04:24 PM
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Flyers are in cap hell.

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#Flyers already have No. 1 projected payroll for 2013-14 at $62M. An overage would make life difficult under $64.3M cap.


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#Flyers will be at risk of a bonus overage penalty for 2013-14 if they continue on LTIR, if Schenn/Couturier achieve performance bonuses.

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02-26-2013, 04:52 PM
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Flyers are in cap hell.

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#Flyers already have No. 1 projected payroll for 2013-14 at $62M. An overage would make life difficult under $64.3M cap.


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#Flyers will be at risk of a bonus overage penalty for 2013-14 if they continue on LTIR, if Schenn/Couturier achieve performance bonuses.
The more I think about that Gagne deal, the less sense it makes to me.

I know he's a legend for them, and he was cheap, but didn't that team need defense far more than more offensive depth? What exactly are they doing?

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02-26-2013, 04:56 PM
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The more I think about that Gagne deal, the less sense it makes to me.

I know he's a legend for them, and he was cheap, but didn't that team need defense far more than more offensive depth? What exactly are they doing?
They have huge hole at wing at the moment too... I think it's kind of a panic move...

Bryzgalov killed this team IMO.

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02-26-2013, 07:11 PM
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Rangers losing 2-0. They are in trouble.

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02-26-2013, 07:38 PM
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Marchand just scored his 10th of the season.

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02-26-2013, 07:43 PM
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Islanders falling apart on D. 3-1 Boston.

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Marchand just scored his 10th of the season.
Save your anger for better things, there was about a 0.1% chance the Isles would beat the Bruins.

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I really wonder if Torts will still have a job with the Rangers by next season, let alone by the end of this one.

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Bruins remain a solid, deep team, but they've had the easiest schedule in the league so far with the fewest games. They're rested and healthy. Very curious to see how their roster holds up over the next month.

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02-26-2013, 07:53 PM
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WTF Penguins losing 4-1 to Florida.

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02-26-2013, 08:00 PM
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Who is leading the East? Try harder, you might convince someone someday Cammy has value.
LOL @ a PPG player not having value. That's another point for Cammy tonight.

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02-26-2013, 08:03 PM
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LOL @ a PPG player not having value. That's another point for Cammy tonight.
Iggy is doing one heck of a job dragging him through those games, cammy floats so well he must be light.

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