HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Notices

What do you think of Trevor Timmins?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-25-2013, 09:56 PM
  #26
HatTricK09
(╯°□°)╯︵ uǝıɹɹǝɥʇ
 
HatTricK09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,125
vCash: 1801
How much would he fetch us?

Do you think he is worth this year's 1st overall pick?

HatTricK09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-25-2013, 10:10 PM
  #27
MasterDecoy
Carlos Danger
 
MasterDecoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Beijing
Posts: 9,195
vCash: 1707
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
So... you get feminine vibes from him, then?
dem muscles...

MasterDecoy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 04:24 AM
  #28
onemorecup*
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,062
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bieber fever View Post
He's the best
period

no other team has produced more NHL players through the draft than the Habs under TT

we can debate all we want how we develop them in our system but no one has his track record

onemorecup* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 04:55 AM
  #29
No Team Needed
Registered User
 
No Team Needed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: essex
Posts: 2,484
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pine View Post
Grigo? Forsberg? Teravainen?
Those were three names tossed around before the draft that people speculated that Timmins wanted.

Galchenyuk wasn't as obvious of a third overall pick as say Jonathan Toews but his only question marks were how much of the season he played. Grig played the season but disappointed in the playoffs. Forsberg and Grig fell for that very reason (and that the top 10 drafted on needs aside from Edmonton).

Teravainen I don't know why he suddenly got hyped as a third overall pick. Pretty sure that was a false rumour.

No Team Needed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 07:59 AM
  #30
Mr. Hab
Registered User
 
Mr. Hab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,457
vCash: 500
Galchenyuk...3rd overall
Price...5th overall
PK Subban...2nd Rnd
McDonagh...mid First Rnd pick
Pacioretty...late 1st Rnd Pick
Gallagher 5th Rnd Pick
L.Leblanc (I'm a believer)
J.Tinordi...moved up to get him in late 1st Rnd
Beaulieu


TT would be perfect if he chose Parise or Phaneuf over Kostitsyn...but we can't all be perfect. (both Parise and Phaneuf were on my top 3 list...not kidding...didn't know that much about A.Kosts).


Last edited by Mr. Hab: 02-26-2013 at 08:13 AM.
Mr. Hab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 08:14 AM
  #31
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,628
vCash: 500
TT would be perfect if he hadn't picked AK, right. But also the Fisher pick.

PricePkPatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 08:25 AM
  #32
bigtimehockeyfan999
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 361
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrei79 View Post
Subban
McDonagh
Pacioretty
Gallagher
Galenchyuk
Price

You've got 5 stars/future stars in that group, most like at least 2 future superstars. Hard to argue results like that.
and that's not even inluding beaulieu, tinordi, collberg, ellis, thrower, hudon who have all shown promise....could be some very very solid nhl players in that mix

bigtimehockeyfan999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 08:26 AM
  #33
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 32,347
vCash: 500
Timmins has done an excellent job and I hope he continues especially this year where he will be very busy in the first couple of rounds

Habs 4 Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 08:30 AM
  #34
Captain Saku
Registered User
 
Captain Saku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 9,742
vCash: 500
He's got the numbers that prove he's very good at what he does but his picks in the 1st round have been very disappointing. Except the 2007 he's been below average in the 1st round.

Captain Saku is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 09:14 AM
  #35
Halifaxhab
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,878
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Saku View Post
He's got the numbers that prove he's very good at what he does but his picks in the 1st round have been very disappointing. Except the 2007 he's been below average in the 1st round.
he alwas seems to look for the "home-run" types. But to be fair. the GM is the one with the final say.

I blame Gauthoer for all the horrible picks...back to Wickenhiser...yep...Gauthier's fault...all of it.

Can't wait to see Chicago fall

Halifaxhab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 09:25 AM
  #36
Monctonscout
Monctonscout
 
Monctonscout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 28,935
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Saku View Post
He's got the numbers that prove he's very good at what he does but his picks in the 1st round have been very disappointing. Except the 2007 he's been below average in the 1st round.
He hasn't been AS GOOD in the 1st round, but I wouldn't call it "below average" either.

He started in 2002 I believe...

Higgins(14)
Kostitsyn(10)
Chipchura(18)
Price(5)
Fischer(20)
McDonagh(12)
Pacioretty(22)
LeBlanc(18)
Tinordi(22)
Beaulieu(17)
Galchenyuk(3)

The only true "bust" was Fischer but lots of teams got little or nothing out of picks from 15-30.

Depending on Tinordi and Beaulieu and how good they became you'd have a pretty strong base of a team with some of those players.

I'd say it's average at least to maybe slightly above. 5 of those picks were in the 2nd half of the 1st rd including Pacioretty and Tinordi.

Monctonscout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 09:30 AM
  #37
Halifaxhab
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,878
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carey Price View Post
He hasn't been AS GOOD in the 1st round, but I wouldn't call it "below average" either.

He started in 2002 I believe...

Higgins(14)
Kostitsyn(10)
Chipchura(18)
Price(5)
Fischer(20)
McDonagh(12)
Pacioretty(22)
LeBlanc(18)
Tinordi(22)
Beaulieu(17)
Galchenyuk(3)

The only true "bust" was Fischer but lots of teams got little or nothing out of picks from 15-30.

Depending on Tinordi and Beaulieu and how good they became you'd have a pretty strong base of a team with some of those players.

I'd say it's average at least to maybe slightly above. 5 of those picks were in the 2nd half of the 1st rd including Pacioretty and Tinordi.

his true value is what he got from the 2nd rd and on.

Halifaxhab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 10:15 AM
  #38
disturbedraven
Lets rock
 
disturbedraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Peterborough
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,044
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carey Price View Post

Higgins(14)
Kostitsyn(10)
Chipchura(18)
Price(5)
Fischer(20)
McDonagh(12)
Pacioretty(22)
LeBlanc(18)
Tinordi(22)
Beaulieu(17)
Galchenyuk(3)


How many 1st rounders in each draft end up panning out in the NHL? let alone play NHL games in general? Now, look at the list we have up here, how many of them played at least 1 NHL game? 8 of those 11 have played in the NHL, 2 of the 3 (Tin and Beau) are likely to make it. That leaves just Fischer. I'd say that his success rate of NHL players is pretty damn good when you consider a ton of 1st rounders never even play in the league, let alone have an impact.

disturbedraven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 10:28 AM
  #39
Captain Saku
Registered User
 
Captain Saku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 9,742
vCash: 500
His first pick was 2003's

Let's see how Beaulieu and Tinordi turns out, he may end up having a very good 1st round record if both become legit top 4 defensemen.

There is no doubt Fischer was his worst pick, and if Leblanc doesn't turn his career around he might be the 2nd worse on the list, followed by the disappointing Chipchura who found a spot in the NHL as a 4th line center in Phoenix.

Kostytsin's isn't a bad pick per se, but if you take into consideration the players that were picked after him, then yeah it's a bad one.

Captain Saku is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 10:56 AM
  #40
Joe Cole
Registered User
 
Joe Cole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,173
vCash: 500
Fischer is an easy target, but we must remember it was the first year NCAA players were available at that age, so the evaluation of those prospects playing against that competition still needed to be gauged versus the CHL, where the level of play is more a known factor.

Joe Cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:02 AM
  #41
FlyingKostitsyn
Registered User
 
FlyingKostitsyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Quebec
Country: Australia
Posts: 7,830
vCash: 500
He's one of the best at his job for sure. We should keep him a long, long time.

FlyingKostitsyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:05 AM
  #42
JustAHabFan
Registered User
 
JustAHabFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,210
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
TT would be perfect if he hadn't picked AK, right. But also the Fisher pick.
I have no problem with the AK pick because he looked good at the draft. But Fisher? I was screaming for the Habs to pick Giroux.

JustAHabFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:17 AM
  #43
Halifaxhab
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,878
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Saku View Post
His first pick was 2003's

Let's see how Beaulieu and Tinordi turns out, he may end up having a very good 1st round record if both become legit top 4 defensemen.

There is no doubt Fischer was his worst pick, and if Leblanc doesn't turn his career around he might be the 2nd worse on the list, followed by the disappointing Chipchura who found a spot in the NHL as a 4th line center in Phoenix.

Kostytsin's isn't a bad pick per se, but if you take into consideration the players that were picked after him, then yeah it's a bad one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustAHabFan View Post
I have no problem with the AK pick because he looked good at the draft. But Fisher? I was screaming for the Habs to pick Giroux.
Who was picked right before Fisher? Mitera.

How many games did Mitera play in the NHL? Yup, same as Fisher. ZERO.

That is why I was and am, never a fan of picking kids from HS leagues. Too few games, and not enough real competition.


As for the '06 draft, you (and many others) wanted Giroux; I wanted Berglund. Mabe he didn't pan out so far as Giroux has, but we really needed size up the middle then (sounds familiar huh) and Berglund had it in spades and would have made an excellent 2nd line centre here.

Halifaxhab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:17 AM
  #44
Habbadasher
Registered User
 
Habbadasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: My couch
Country: Germany
Posts: 1,587
vCash: 500

Habbadasher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:28 AM
  #45
Bask
Embellishing User
 
Bask's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Montréal
Posts: 3,370
vCash: 500
TT seems to have a lot of fans around here...
yes he made some great moves, but some of his moves are just...

A.Kostistyn over Carter, dustin Brown, Zach Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Ryan kesler, Corey Perry...

Chipchura over Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros, MIKE GREEN

David Fischer over Claude Giroux, Berglund, Foligno

and those players we're all in the first round!

and we don't know much about them now, but I have absolutely no faith in Tinordi and Kristo

Bask is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:36 AM
  #46
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bask View Post
TT seems to have a lot of fans around here...
yes he made some great moves, but some of his moves are just...

A.Kostistyn over Carter, dustin Brown, Zach Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Ryan kesler, Corey Perry...

Chipchura over Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros, MIKE GREEN

David Fischer over Claude Giroux, Berglund, Foligno

and those players we're all in the first round!

and we don't know much about them now, but I have absolutely no faith in Tinordi and Kristo
Wait. I understand doubts about Kristo, he's been doing rather erratically at times. But you have no faith in TINORDI?!

PricePkPatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:40 AM
  #47
hototogisu
Global Moderator
Future is Now
 
hototogisu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Montreal, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 32,132
vCash: 500
Awards:
It's fun to go back and read old threads from the 2006 draft. I would say most of the posters here wanted us to pick Sanguinetti. Chris Summers was a big favorite, as was Chris Stewart. Then a few votes for Berglund, Giroux and Yuri Alexandrov.

hototogisu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:46 AM
  #48
disturbedraven
Lets rock
 
disturbedraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Peterborough
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,044
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bask View Post
TT seems to have a lot of fans around here...
yes he made some great moves, but some of his moves are just...

A.Kostistyn over Carter, dustin Brown, Zach Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Ryan kesler, Corey Perry...

Chipchura over Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros, MIKE GREEN

David Fischer over Claude Giroux, Berglund, Foligno

and those players we're all in the first round!

and we don't know much about them now, but I have absolutely no faith in Tinordi and Kristo
Isn't hindsight great? I mean had we known then what we know now, we'd be perennial cup winners

disturbedraven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:50 AM
  #49
Bask
Embellishing User
 
Bask's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Montréal
Posts: 3,370
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
Wait. I understand doubts about Kristo, he's been doing rather erratically at times. But you have no faith in TINORDI?!
for a couple of reasons :

1-not impressed with what i've seen watching 2-3 knights game during the lockout, maybe those we're just bad games

2-the post-draft interview he gave to RDS made me sick, he looked incredibly... well he looked dumb and kinda "slow" ...

3-i'm always worried about giants, they're often overated because they look pretty good in a "non-NHL speed" game, but once they hit the NHL, its not the same

maybe i'm wrong, I hope he can prove me wrong and i'll be cheering for him if he does, but right now, nope

Quote:
Originally Posted by disturbedraven View Post
Isn't hindsight great? I mean had we known then what we know now, we'd be perennial cup winners
haha I know, but that's is full time job! no excuses

Bask is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-26-2013, 11:53 AM
  #50
DJ Breadman
Registered User
 
DJ Breadman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Newfoundland
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,914
vCash: 500
I think he has done a nice job, he is certainly no god though, before he came in we had a prob with size and depth at center and 10 years later we still do, he got gally but that's a no brainer with the #3 overall pick other then that he has not found any gems at center

DJ Breadman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:00 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.