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[MTL/DAL] Erik Cole for Michael Ryder and 2013 3rd round pick

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02-26-2013, 06:54 PM
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@TSNBobMcKenzie MTL also acquires a 3rd round pick from DAL in the Ryder-Cole swap.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...51877032632320

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02-26-2013, 06:55 PM
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What's Niewy thinking?

Good deal for the Habs. Cole is terrible. He can now go preach about the "fearsome" CBA in Dallas.

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the habs do this why? didnt mtl fans hated m.ryder when he was with them?

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Can anyone explain to me why Dallas did this?
No one rational can.

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Can anyone explain to me why Dallas did this?
I just checked, Ryder is a UFA while Cole has two yrs left on his deal.......so that's why Dallas moves a 3rd too........Honestly I think they win the deal based on that

The HABS likely need to shed salary for the cap next yr. Playing more kids

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what are mtl's line combos now?
It's thrown a bit out of whack with Bourque being out with a concussion. I could see it being like this.

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Ryder
Eller-Plekanec-Gionta
Prust-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Moen-White-Armstrong

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Entangles? I really think Ryder is a perfect fit in Montreal. Now they have a pure sniper to deploy.
Yeah Gionta Gallagher Desharnais Plekanec

Another small non-physical forward.

Perfect fit

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LOL at Nieuwendyk ...

Please Shero, go and grab Eriksson, while we're at it!

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Montreal got by far the better deal here. Very surprised this type of deal was made.

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Going back in time it seems. Ryder and gagne.

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I just checked, Ryder is a UFA while Cole has two yrs left on his deal.......so that's why Dallas moves a 3rd too........Honestly I think they win the deal based on that

The HABS likely need to shed salary for the cap next yr. Playing more kids
so they win the deal because they send a 3rd?

MTL just got rid of another bad contract for a UFA and a 3rd

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IMO Cole is a better all around player but the habs badly needed a scorer.

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02-26-2013, 06:57 PM
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Bergevin keeping up with his "Short Rebuild mentality". Getting rid of contracts. Gomez gone, Cole gone, and the 2nd amnesty buyout will be on Kaberle. Lots of Cap Space going to be opened up if Ryder doesn't resign PLUS he keeps stacking up picks. 6 in the Top 90 in 2013.

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the habs do this why? didnt mtl fans hated m.ryder when he was with them?
Fans don't run the team and Ryder is an offensive threat regardless of what they think. MTL just got better.

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Love this, Habs were going trough cap hell next season, now they got the Cole contract off the cap, Gomez mercy buy out, and Kaberle mercy buy out. We might have enough money to acquire a FA.

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The only good thing about this trade is that it allows us to throw a big contract at Perry should he become a UFA. Otherwise, I'm not sure what people are so happy about (and strangely enough, it's not even Habs fans that are calling this a huge steal). We've had Ryder before and Cole is easily the better player.

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I'm not entirely against this deal.

Both players had pretty impressive seasons last year, since then there's been a bit of a decline from both......more from Cole, obviously, but Ryder's shown some rust this year as well. Still, I was sure he'd last until at least the deadline, at which point GM Joe would pull the trigger on your run-of-the-mill playoff rental deals, for a prospect and pick or something. Trading him for an older winger though, while kicking in a pick for good measure?

I think GM Joe's developing a penchant for "straight out of left field" deals that need a second glance to comprehend. This is one of those deals. Hopefully he explains it in the coming days.

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IMO Cole is a better all around player but the habs badly needed a scorer.
true but Cole scored 35 last year. that being said, he looked really, really awful 95% of the time this year

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the habs do this why? didnt mtl fans hated m.ryder when he was with them?
Bandwagonners don't have a very long memory

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I ****ing despised Ryder here.

WHY ?!?
yea i didnt like him.. sucks hes back in mtl..

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Head scratcher for Dallas.... do not get it at all

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This is a fair trade for all parties involved. We're just upset we didn't move Ryder for future assets when we're set to have a ton of kids jump into the lineup and future assets are low on the totem poll of things to acquire.

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so they win the deal because they send a 3rd?

MTL just got rid of another bad contract for a UFA and a 3rd
No the way I look at it is

HABS- shed salary, get an equal pt getter in Ryder and the 3rd is justified since they could lose Ryder for nothing in the offeason

Dallas- really only deals a rental and a 3rd for a scorer that is signed over the next 2 yrs. They are way under the cap

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