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02-21-2013, 06:51 PM
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Columbus acquired those picks last year and in the off season, it's not the same situation.

At the trade deadline you rarely receive a pick that is not a middle-late round pick for the upcoming draft.
*cough* Feb 24 isn't the off season

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02-21-2013, 06:53 PM
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*cough* Feb 24 isn't the off season
seriously? is literacy dead around here? or do you people pay no attention?

Columbus got 1 pick from LA..... LAST YEAR
Columbus got 1 pick from NY..... IN THE OFF SEASON

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02-21-2013, 08:32 PM
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yeah, LAST SEASON

What don't you understand? When Carter was traded the 2012 draft was the upcoming draft. He got a 2013 pick, which was not the upcoming draft at the time.
Want to read what I wrote before you jump amigo?
I wrote for future drafts. I literally wrote: Also, getting some from future years is always a great idea.

*sigh*
I was talking about getting picks for future years.
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02-21-2013, 10:37 PM
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Want to read what I wrote before you jump amigo?
I wrote for future drafts. I literally wrote: Also, getting some from future years is always a great idea.

*sigh*
I was talking about getting picks for future years.
L2R
And I said you won't get top picks, that's all, then you tried cherry picking things out of what I said and were again wrong.

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02-21-2013, 10:41 PM
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And I said you won't get top picks, that's all, then you tried cherry picking things out of what I said and were again wrong.
Might be a bit more of you not reading what I wrote, then accusing me of doing the same.
But whatever, this isn't the point of the thread.

Rebuilds please!

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02-23-2013, 06:42 PM
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Iginla to Chicago. Shaw + 1st + 2nd?

Giordano + 2nd for ROR?

Cammy to Pittsburgh for Tangradi + 1st.

Kipper to Toronto for Bozak + Kadri

Comeau, Sarich, Babs + Jackman for picks.

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02-23-2013, 07:03 PM
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Iginla to Chicago. Shaw + 1st + 2nd?

Giordano + 2nd for ROR?

Cammy to Pittsburgh for Tangradi + 1st.

Kipper to Toronto for Bozak + Kadri

Comeau, Sarich, Babs + Jackman for picks.
Tangradi was traded for a 7th to the Jets.

Toronto's getting incredible goaltending from Scrivens and Reimer. And Kadri's leading the team in points while getting 3rd line ice time. Not a chance he gets moved.

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02-23-2013, 07:11 PM
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Iginla to Chicago. Shaw + 1st + 2nd?

Giordano + 2nd for ROR?

Cammy to Pittsburgh for Tangradi + 1st.

Kipper to Toronto for Bozak + Kadri

Comeau, Sarich, Babs + Jackman for picks.
I doubt Chicago is looking for anymore offense that isn't a centerman.

The time to get Kadri was in the offseason (I suggested it and got ripped for it) he won't be moved now especially when Scrivens and Riemer are doing as well as they are.

I wouldn't give up anything more than Gio for RoR as we don't have a second this year, and I refuse to trade another 2nd away.

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02-23-2013, 07:16 PM
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I think a good home for Iginla could be Anaheim.

They are loaded with prospects and young players at every position:

G: Fasth,Bobkov,J.Gibson etc.,
D: Beyond Fowler, there's Sbisa, Lindholm,Vatanen etc.,
F: Holland, Palmieri, Etem, etc.,

I could see a deal for

Holland
2013 1st

for

Iginla


...maybe we add a little, or they add a little. I wouldn't mind having Cogliano coming back, maybe we could add in Stempniak. But I think there is the makings of a deal here.

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As for Jay Bo his value will lie in us eating his contract. If he is available for 3.3 million we could quite easily get a similar package as to what is being offered above for Jarome.

Now mind you I would rather deal Giordano(then Bouw) if the value could be 75% of what we would get for Bouwmeester.

Then deal Kipper for a 2nd.

If Iginla yielded Peter Holland and a 1st

Jay Bouw or Gio yielded a 1st

Kipper yields a 2nd

Suddenly

we'd have a Top 3 Pick with our pick(Drouin,MacKinnon territory)

2 firsts that would probably between 23-30.

and Peter Holland.

When you add that haul to the remaining Bouw or Gio + Wideman, Brodie, Wotherspoon etc.,

Hudler, Tanguay, Cammy, GlennX, Baerstchi,Backlund,Gaudreau, Jankowski,Reinhart etc.,

Ramo,Brossoit,Gillies etc.,

...we'd have above average depth at all positions

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02-23-2013, 07:18 PM
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What do you guys think of
Gio + Stempniak for 2nd + Rask + Mcbain?

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02-23-2013, 07:26 PM
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Gio for Bernier

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02-23-2013, 08:11 PM
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What do you guys think of
Gio + Stempniak for 2nd + Rask + Mcbain?


Plus, McBain fits into our Simpsons theme nicely. If this happens, I pre-emptively claim McBain.

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02-23-2013, 08:14 PM
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What do you guys think of
Gio + Stempniak for 2nd + Rask + Mcbain?
I think it is fair value.

Stempniak = 2nd round pick
Giordano = Rask + McBain

Good proposal.

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02-23-2013, 08:26 PM
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I think it is fair value.

Stempniak = 2nd round pick
Giordano = Rask + McBain

Good proposal.
The Carolina fans seemed good with it as well.

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02-25-2013, 07:36 AM
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What do you guys think of
Gio + Stempniak for 2nd + Rask + Mcbain?
maybe you can get them to throw in Lucic while your at it. Rask isn't going anywhere, Boston has no need for either player and a need for what they'd be giving up.

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02-25-2013, 07:58 AM
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maybe you can get them to throw in Lucic while your at it. Rask isn't going anywhere, Boston has no need for either player and a need for what they'd be giving up.
Wow. Did you stop and wonder how Calgary was trading for Rask from Boston and Mcbain from Carolina in the same deal? Did you ever stop to think he was talking about Victor Rask?


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02-25-2013, 09:42 AM
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maybe you can get them to throw in Lucic while your at it. Rask isn't going anywhere, Boston has no need for either player and a need for what they'd be giving up.
Enough said.

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02-25-2013, 09:46 AM
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maybe you can get them to throw in Lucic while your at it. Rask isn't going anywhere, Boston has no need for either player and a need for what they'd be giving up.

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Delete. I had something but I moved it to the Trade Proposals thread. Sorry


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02-25-2013, 06:14 PM
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Given that Karlsson is down but could be back for the playoffs, it wouldn't be huge surprise if they did make a move for Jbo especially when it won't cost them a roster player.
Zibb is a roster player, and starting to produce. He's going nowhere.

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02-26-2013, 11:06 AM
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This is why everyone thinks we're crazy. This isn't wishful thinking, it's stupid. No one who isn't Calgary does this.
St. Louis fans have offered the Giordano one multiple times. I hate JBo, but he has more value than HF readers think.

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02-26-2013, 12:17 PM
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What do you guys think of
Gio + Stempniak for 2nd + Rask + Mcbain?
The more I think about it the more I like it...would be an excellent deadline deal.

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What do you guys think of
Gio + Stempniak for 2nd + Rask + Mcbain?
That's a pretty fair deal for both teams to be honest. If the Flames decide to move more players as per a rebuild I can see this, if proposed, really being considered.

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I think a good home for Iginla could be Anaheim.

They are loaded with prospects and young players at every position:

G: Fasth,Bobkov,J.Gibson etc.,
D: Beyond Fowler, there's Sbisa, Lindholm,Vatanen etc.,
F: Holland, Palmieri, Etem, etc.,

I could see a deal for

Holland
2013 1st

for

Iginla


...maybe we add a little, or they add a little. I wouldn't mind having Cogliano coming back, maybe we could add in Stempniak. But I think there is the makings of a deal here.

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As a Ducks fan as well as a fan of Iginla, I love the idea of Iggy in Anaheim. The guy is a stud if I ever saw one. But I doubt the Ducks would trade Holland as we are so thin at the center position.

I'd be down for Palmieri/DSP + 1st 2013 for Iginla. Would that adress any Flames needs?

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As a Ducks fan as well as a fan of Iginla, I love the idea of Iggy in Anaheim. The guy is a stud if I ever saw one. But I doubt the Ducks would trade Holland as we are so thin at the center position.

I'd be down for Palmieri/DSP + 1st 2013 for Iginla. Would that adress any Flames needs?
The Flames could use a good RW prospect too, but a C would obviously be preferable.

But I am of the belief Iginla will return more than a 1st and a prospect. I think there would be either a roster player (since Palmieri is a roster player, maybe a lesser prospect) and a conditional pick based on a Finals appearance or re-signing him.

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